Judex

Then you clearly don't know your history. Cornell was at Stark before the merge and was an intergarl part of strength and conditioning from the very beginning. 1983 was a singular bad year with a lot of issues in the lockerroom. It wasn't lack of talent (I think Harold Green ended up at Oklahoma) or coaching and you could clearly see the ascent the next season as we gave eventual co-state champ french all they wanted. Back then we were 5A and whoever came out of our district routinely went to state. Of ANYONE responsible for building that program, it was Cornell Thompson and the fact that you don't know that demonstrates your lack of understanding here. (and honestly, Kerry Franks, Sr., practically single-handedly carried us to that District Championship in 1979. It sure wasn't Mccarty.)

You need to stick to what you know and understand. WO-S didn't build a reputation by beating up on mediocre teams. WO-S has always had talented kids. The program elevated them to the highest winning percentage of any program in the state. The discipline and coaching elevated them to being one of the storied programs state-wide. The proof is in the pudding. You can look at the immediate drop and what happens when WO-S faces the elite competition that they used to bludgeon with conditioning. You DO NOT get it. We aren't haters. We LOVE WO-S. We have A LOT of pride. We have high standards and didn't want to see the program fall. It has. By every objective metric, what was left in the cupboard shouldn't have looked like that. It has been beneath what we expect.

Kendall coming back would be amazing. Toby coming back would be amazing. If we had a time machine and could undo losing Cornell that would be amazing and I suspect at least some of the idiots that promoted this awful turn of events would change their minds. People from the outside just DO NOT GET IT. This was all predicted.

Silsbee is going to crush us and I feel awful for these kids already. They grew up dreaming of wearing that silver hat and being part of a legacy of greatness. The only thing that kept us in this game was effort from the players and their athleticism. It is so hard watching it die. Can you even sort of imagine those runs right up the gut against a real WO-S defense?

Your question was bad. Good faith is what the officer relies on to be entitled to qualified immunity. Good faith is not the actual thing that makes him IMMUNE to civil consequences. The legal DOCTRINE at issue is Qualified Immunity. Having had occasion to bring 1983/Bivens actions, I am not merely speaking out of turn.

QUALIFIED IMMUNITY

Qualified immunity is what generally covers them from civil repercussions.

WO-S as a legendary program is done. Apparently it is going to take some folks multiple faceplants to realize it, but that winning percentage is going to plummet faster than you might expect. No one is saying that WO-S won't compete. Occasionally they will field a talented squad that will partially overcome coaching shortcomings, but our reign as a program that is routinely a cut above with kids dreaming of a silver hat from peewee on is over. Don't know what you got til its gone. We predicted this.

Called it.

How's it looking now, Majestyk? Anybody know what they were talking about?

I had expected it to take longer to plunge the program into mediocrity, but maybe it is a fitting tribute. Hopefully people will finally realize just how singularly important Coach Thompson was to the program and the real ramifications of his absence.

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wow, so there ARE sane people that comment here :)))

It's so weird watching people bark views based completely on what they want to believe, completely divorced from evidence, while simultaneously dismissing the views of others based on the exact same fallacious paradigms.

who said they were an expert? when did this become a place where one cannot express an opinion, expert or not?

I'm not trying to diminish one over another and I didn't play, so I am going by what my friends who did had to say. I was there 85-89 when the dynasty started and back then it was understood that although Dan was the head coach, that was Coach T's team. "Defense wins championships." Coach T became DC in 1981. He was also the strength and conditioning coach. Also importantly, he was the disciplinarian. WO-S' reputation is defense and conditioning. Discipline. From 1985 to now WO-S has missed the playoffs just 5 times. '92 when we forfeited some district games, '99, then 2001-2003. Coach T was gone to Palestine and Huntsville 2001-2003. It could be a wild coincidence. The district was tough. Going 8-2 and missing the playoffs is tough. But, it could also be the proof in the pudding. I bleed blue and silver. I WANT to be wrong. I just don't think I am. People were fighting for Toby because they believed he was the best chance to continue a legacy because he spent so much of his life a part of it. Every little change we hear about from outsiders coming in sounds like the death of what has worked for so long. It just sounds like it is really finally over.

No.

I am shocked by the number of people that seem to be unaware that Coach T was there from the very beginning. That was his team long before he was the head coach. We had a brief period when he left and then he came back. We saw what happened. The proof was in the pudding and some folks can't see it. They will learn now. Plenty of schools in the area have had horses over the years. There was a reason for the consistent success and it wasn't just the athletes. The slow degradation cometh and the legacy is about to fade. It will be slow enough that it'll be gone before people realize it. Like anything else, all good things must come to an end.

An awful lot of folks have no idea what we lost with his retirement. They are about to find out. His imprint was on that program LONG before he "officially" took the reins. Irreplaceable.

I think I made it.

So , it sounds like you guys think that any view that does not comport with your views is ipso facto "divisive." It also sounds like you guys think that the majority or popular view is the one that should prevail. Simultaneously, you appear to support the side that lost the majority or popular vote by a pretty significant margin. Weird echo chamber here. One would think there should be lots of cognitive dissonance, but I guess that requires cognition . . .

lol, I am super aware of the word's meaning. I am curious as to how this thread's originator is using it and whether they can explain the reason. It seems really strange to me that someone would suggest that the current president is the most "divisive" one in recent memory.

Can you please explain what you mean by divisive?

Define "divisive."

I will defend Hillary. I do not agree with her politically on a variety of issues, but she is probably more qualified to be president than anyone else who has ever run for it and she is certainly more qualified and capable than anyone in this race. I have no doubt that she has enough concern for this country and her legacy that she will handle it responsibly. She is intelligent capable and experienced. The political propaganda attacks on her are hilarious. Republicans control virtually all of the legislative apparatus and most of the executive apparatus in this country, spent millions with this Benghazi farce, and it turns out there is nothing of substance in her woodpile. She has been under intense scrutiny and outright attack for literally over 25 years. If there was really any substance to these wild allegations, does anyone actually believe that somehow ALL of the Republicans in places of power have either been coopted or bought off to maintain their silence? It would be more comical if it wasn't just sad. Trump is a clown show, trolling his own supporters, demonstrating just how far we have fallen. This whole circus has been scripted. Hillary was presumed to be the heir as soon as she lost the nomination to Obama. The entire reason for the Benghazi investigations was simply because that was the ONLY ground available for the GOP to build an attack. It has been remarkably effective as millions of people assume she actually had something to do with wrongdoing there. Just like millions of people thought that Iraq had something to do with 9/11. The beat goes on. Trump has had ties to the Clintons for a long time. His nomination sealed her ascension. And you bought it. Can you imagine if a democratic nominee acted like Trump and said and did the things he has done? Trying to equate Trump and Hillary is a joke. On you.