Hagar

​I have to jump in......
What Evadale is to me is a school with a long loyal history that will not be taken from them easily. One small enough it can teach character to each student......
Story:  My Son was on the Basketball team and at one of their games, because of the score, they let their weakest player play almost the last half of the game. This kid had never scored the entire year. He was fouled and had 2 free throws.....He made one......the entire team ran and picked him up and celebrated......The Evadale side of the stands all stood up and cheered. 
After the game, my Son looked at me and asked if I thought the celebration was cool. I agreed and he said that would have never happened at his old School........and he was probably right.
They also say prayers.....

You're right, and I honestly feel that if the flag had not used as a symbol by the KKK and other hate groups, we would not be having these discussions.

There are those of us on here that will agree to disagree over the flag.  There is one thing that is for sure and that is we can all agree that slavery, hangings, and all other atrocities should not have ever happened.  The removal of all symbols of the South will not change this.  There is nothing we can do about what happened then.  We need to realize that just because we don't agree with what is taking place,  does not mean one is racist or not.  It is just a difference of opinions.  In the end,  all of this is really getting nobody anywhere.

Hope they're allowed to keep it as well,  but somebody with nothing better to do will try to stir the pot.  By the way,  that baseball rivalry between Big Sandy and Evadale is great.  Mine graduated this year,  but I'm at least gonna try to catch these two games for sure.  If it's anything like last three years, they will get to play each other 3 times.

Seen a lot of them come and go, but she takes the cake.  No morals whatsoever.  She couldn't spell integrity or honor.  

Seen a lot of them come and go, but she takes the cake.  No morals whatsoever.  She couldn't spell integrity or honor.  

Those dudes over there better curb their enthusiasm. If they get froggy with Israel & the nukes start flying, you talk about the price of gas going up. Smh

​Most people don't realize that it WILL affect them also. They see the obvious of oil/gas people get laid off, and think that's due to prices dropping. However, when those people lose their good paying jobs and stop eating out, buying cars, going on vacations, stop buying new homes, stop flying, etc........then the layoffs start in all other industries due to these reductions.....however, there is a lag in time and those getting laid off don't realize it is a direct result of trickle down from falling gas prices.

​Big Ups on that REB

Before I get to Al Gore, I want to give you an Attaboy. 
Haven't been on long, but you keep things going.  If not for you we'd be trying to figure out who's the best Midfielder on our National Soccer Team (my Gd played that position, otherwise I'd had to put Goalie lol).  
Now, the Global Warming bunch want to blame fossil fuels.   IMO they are minutely correct.  Say, less than 5% on any climate change.  The rest is cyclical. 
I stand by my assertion that Al Gore is an Alien living among us.  His home planet got too liberal, went broke & he (I'm beginning to think Hillary also) was sent here to raise money to bail them out.  Am I a genius or what.  

From what I read of the History of the Civil War, the Confederate soldiers were to busy fighting and dying to commit the atrocities you're referring to.  I'm certainly not proud of what many slave owners did, or had done, but the average Confederate soldier was (and I know you've heard this before & will probably blow it off) a relatively poor (what would be described now as trash) man who answered the call for the South, or perhaps drafted into service.  He didnt own slaves, nor a pot to pee in or window to throw it out of.  Like the hundreds of thousands of boys sent to fight in Viet Nam - to stop the "domino effect" (commies will get VNam then Australia, then U.S.).  I was in the Army then.  Fortunately, had orders to go & they got cancelled.  Hell, we didn't know a commie from a Canadian.  If someone mentioned Stalin, we may have heard his name that's it.  Our country called and we got sent where  they wanted us to go.  And almost 60,000 died there, many boys I'd gone to school with.  And like the Civil War, most were the poorer young men, not the rich.
That's the same as happened to the Confederate soldier.  
One last thing Pam, I'm not sure but I'd guess slavery started in America just prior to 1700.  So slaves were subjected to unimaginable cruelties for a hundred & sixty years prior to the War.  That war lasted four years and as you know, hundreds of thousands died.  Very few slave owners, they had money.  So in that 165 years of slavery, that flag, that meant so much to so many men, innocent of the sins of slavery, was only around 4 years.  And those 250,000 men that died, many did in as terrible a way as any slave.  
I don't care about slave owners except to say I hope they rot in hell.  But for all those innocent young men who died, I care for them, just as you care for yours.  
Don't know what else I can tell ya.  We both have TO MUCH to morn, but I'm reaching to you hard as I can. I know your pain, I'm just trying in a sincere way, to explain mine.  
 
 
 
 
 

Wow, got Quote to work second try.  If you can find a place down 1131 you only smell the mill when the north wind blows, & I could smell it in Vidor anyway.  It's a gem in the woods. 

They're too busy kicking everyone's tail in basketball.  Man they are fun to watch. 

​REBgp, I need some 'free stuff." Please give me a $200 gift card. Thank you in advance!

I like good people, I don't care what color they are.  Before downsizing got me, we had a black contractor just put in our warehouse. He had got cut from another Co. Under dubious circumstances.  Was Nam vet. Helped get him hired.  Helped him & his family until he did.  Good man!  We use to talk about race relations.  I told him we all need to forget race, and the Good people, white & black, need to be against the Bad people, white & black.   He agreed. 
That was about 26 years ago.  He called me about 4 months ago to meet him.  He gave me a $100 gift card for all I'd done for him so long ago.  This old man had tears in his eyes.  

Like I told Hoop, never done this before​ and I want to enjoy it.  Perfect world, I'd like to make a point and get a chuckle.  Unfortunately, Pam's concern didn't leave room for humor, and I wanted to express sympathy plus convey to him what that flag & the sacrifice those boys made mean to me & a few old codgers left.
thxs to you guys for putting up with me thru the first. Not puter savy & only have Ip4.  Got to get a pad. Be retiring end of year PTL
 

From what I read of the History of the Civil War, the Confederate soldiers were to busy fighting and dying to commit the atrocities you're referring to.  I'm certainly not proud of what many slave owners did, or had done, but the average Confederate soldier was (and I know you've heard this before & will probably blow it off) a relatively poor (what would be described now as trash) man who answered the call for the South, or perhaps drafted into service.  He didnt own slaves, nor a pot to pee in or window to throw it out of.  Like the hundreds of thousands of boys sent to fight in Viet Nam - to stop the "domino effect" (commies will get VNam then Australia, then U.S.).  I was in the Army then.  Fortunately, had orders to go & they got cancelled.  Hell, we didn't know a commie from a Canadian.  If someone mentioned Stalin, we may have heard his name that's it.  Our country called and we got sent where  they wanted us to go.  And almost 60,000 died there, many boys I'd gone to school with.  And like the Civil War, most were the poorer young men, not the rich.
That's the same as happened to the Confederate soldier.  
One last thing Pam, I'm not sure but I'd guess slavery started in America just prior to 1700.  So slaves were subjected to unimaginable cruelties for a hundred & sixty years prior to the War.  That war lasted four years and as you know, hundreds of thousands died.  Very few slave owners, they had money.  So in that 165 years of slavery, that flag, that meant so much to so many men, innocent of the sins of slavery, was only around 4 years.  And those 250,000 men that died, many did in as terrible a way as any slave.  
I don't care about slave owners except to say I hope they rot in hell.  But for all those innocent young men who died, I care for them, just as you care for yours.  
Don't know what else I can tell ya.  We both have TO MUCH to morn, but I'm reaching to you hard as I can. I know your pain, I'm just trying in a sincere way, to explain mine.  
 
 
 
 
 

As I've said, some of the best folks in SETX.  You're never a stranger and they are as kind as they can be.  And REALLY support their kids which I admire and respect tremendously.  Whenever I meet someone from Evadale, I can just about guarantee they are going to be top shelf. 

From what I read of the History of the Civil War, the Confederate soldiers were to busy fighting and dying to commit the atrocities you're referring to.  I'm certainly not proud of what many slave owners did, or had done, but the average Confederate soldier was (and I know you've heard this before & will probably blow it off) a relatively poor (what would be described now as trash) man who answered the call for the South, or perhaps drafted into service.  He didnt own slaves, nor a pot to pee in or window to throw it out of.  Like the hundreds of thousands of boys sent to fight in Viet Nam - to stop the "domino effect" (commies will get VNam then Australia, then U.S.).  I was in the Army then.  Fortunately, had orders to go & they got cancelled.  Hell, we didn't know a commie from a Canadian.  If someone mentioned Stalin, we may have heard his name that's it.  Our country called and we got sent where  they wanted us to go.  And almost 60,000 died there, many boys I'd gone to school with.  And like the Civil War, most were the poorer young men, not the rich.
That's the same as happened to the Confederate soldier.  
One last thing Pam, I'm not sure but I'd guess slavery started in America just prior to 1700.  So slaves were subjected to unimaginable cruelties for a hundred & sixty years prior to the War.  That war lasted four years and as you know, hundreds of thousands died.  Very few slave owners, they had money.  So in that 165 years of slavery, that flag, that meant so much to so many men, innocent of the sins of slavery, was only around 4 years.  And those 250,000 men that died, many did in as terrible a way as any slave.  
I don't care about slave owners except to say I hope they rot in hell.  But for all those innocent young men who died, I care for them, just as you care for yours.  
Don't know what else I can tell ya.  We both have TO MUCH to morn, but I'm reaching to you hard as I can. I know your pain, I'm just trying in a sincere way, to explain mine.  
 
 
 
 
 

I've seen the video of the arrest.  He was refusing to comply with the Police's instructions.  Now I'm so big I have Goodyear on my side, but only 5'10".   He was several inches taller and I would look emaciated next to him, so yes they got rough.  And his family is getting $5.9M?  What in the cornbread h-ll is going on????  They need to arrest the stupid SOB's that authorized that.  

From what I read of the History of the Civil War, the Confederate soldiers were to busy fighting and dying to commit the atrocities you're referring to.  I'm certainly not proud of what many slave owners did, or had done, but the average Confederate soldier was (and I know you've heard this before & will probably blow it off) a relatively poor (what would be described now as trash) man who answered the call for the South, or perhaps drafted into service.  He didnt own slaves, nor a pot to pee in or window to throw it out of.  Like the hundreds of thousands of boys sent to fight in Viet Nam - to stop the "domino effect" (commies will get VNam then Australia, then U.S.).  I was in the Army then.  Fortunately, had orders to go & they got cancelled.  Hell, we didn't know a commie from a Canadian.  If someone mentioned Stalin, we may have heard his name that's it.  Our country called and we got sent where  they wanted us to go.  And almost 60,000 died there, many boys I'd gone to school with.  And like the Civil War, most were the poorer young men, not the rich.
That's the same as happened to the Confederate soldier.  
One last thing Pam, I'm not sure but I'd guess slavery started in America just prior to 1700.  So slaves were subjected to unimaginable cruelties for a hundred & sixty years prior to the War.  That war lasted four years and as you know, hundreds of thousands died.  Very few slave owners, they had money.  So in that 165 years of slavery, that flag, that meant so much to so many men, innocent of the sins of slavery, was only around 4 years.  And those 250,000 men that died, many did in as terrible a way as any slave.  
I don't care about slave owners except to say I hope they rot in hell.  But for all those innocent young men who died, I care for them, just as you care for yours.  
Don't know what else I can tell ya.  We both have TO MUCH to morn, but I'm reaching to you hard as I can. I know your pain, I'm just trying in a sincere way, to explain mine.  
 
 
 
 
 

I know you're right.  As I've said before, been here in Evadale about six years. With both GK's popular, been around a lot of kids and NEVER heard one use a racial slur.  And as most know, their mascot is Rebels.  But what most don't know, the colors are Blue & Gold (dam Yankee colors).  Friend of mine said they an identity crisis lol.  Also, the school emblem is a Crest, with the flag in it.  And I've never seen a rebel flag being waved at a ball game.  
As the kids & people in Evadale aren't racist, I hope the people & media in the area will allow this little community to retain their mascot.  
 

OJ was found not guilty of killing his ex wife yet he lost a civil suit and had to pay millions to his ex family.
Never liked how one can be found innocent in criminal court but can be liable in civil court.

I like good people, I don't care what color they are.  Before downsizing got me, we had a black contractor just put in our warehouse. He had got cut from another Co. Under dubious circumstances.  Was Nam vet. Helped get him hired.  Helped him & his family until he did.  Good man!  We use to talk about race relations.  I told him we all need to forget race, and the Good people, white & black, need to be against the Bad people, white & black.   He agreed. 
That was about 26 years ago.  He called me about 4 months ago to meet him.  He gave me a $100 gift card for all I'd done for him so long ago.  This old man had tears in his eyes.  

Growing up in Vidor (don't think less of me Hoop) when I was young @ 1955, I ask my dad if he ever thought about joining the Klan. He told me, "Hell no!  If I want to whip somebodies a$$, white or black, I want them to know who's doing it, not hiding under a sheet".  Here ends the lesson.    
I guess the Klan is alive & well, as are the Black Panthers, & no telling how many other racial/religious groups that I'm not aware of.  Again, Cest La Vie (such is life - for those of you who flunked French like I did).