Stattrax
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Going to be interesting for sure. No gimmies!!!
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On 1/17/2019 at 1:10 PM, CardinalBacker said:
It's not as easy as saying "this school produces talent and that school doesn't" based purely on records. Development has a lot to do with the level of success a school enjoys. Newton, Jasper, Kirbyville, and Burkeville have very similar talent pools.... Heck, there are a lot of extended families that have kids in those different ISDs. You can easily rank them by level(s) of sucess achieved, though. There's probably not a more naturally gifted program in the state than Memorial.... they just don't have the hardware to prove it. There's a coaching deficit in my opinion, and a complete lack of development over there. You'll not convince me that the kids in WOS are genetically superior to the ones in PA. It isn't the facilities in WOS that makes them compete at the highest levels every year, either. It comes down to having the coaching, as well as a program that will develop young ballplayers.
Naturally talented athletes are definitely a necessary ingredient if you want to regularly compete for SCs... I'm not pretending that you could take any old school, drop in a championship coach, and start collecting rings. You're going to need some top-notch athletes, but you're also gonna need a lot of middle-of-the-road athletes performing at their peak, too.... in the offseason, track season, powerlifting, 7-on-7, etc....
On the other hand, if you tried to implement WOS's program in a place like BC, they'd fire the coach before two-a-days were over.
IMO:
IF you took a top level guy and brought him in to a place like BC
Got community support for the coach/program like they do in other places (Newton, WOS)
Had a 3-4 years to develop skilled and non-skilled players
Got a lucky move-in or two
Then yes.... I think you could develop a consistent team that would play in December a lot of years. But I don't think it happens without any of the above listed components.
That's why WOS wins. Little Johnny is gonna bust his butt or he wont play...
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On 12/30/2018 at 6:05 PM, The Icon said:
It’s safe to assume that this debate comes up for discussion every year around this time: Faircloth’s emphasis on offense vs a lack of defense. All things being equal, of course everyone would like to be superb at both.
However, coaches have come and gone over the years, new schools have popped up around metro areas and the socio-economic landscape is ever changing all over the state. My question, as an uninvested party, is have any of the PNG faithful ever taken a look their own talent pool?
Other than a once in a century athlete, most of the kids are your typical high school athlete. Some are bigger or faster than those in the their own class or school, but once a Marshall/College Station/Angleton come around - it’s the same story: Jimmy’s vs Joe’s.
Just an outsider’s perspective, not an indictment on the athletic prowess of anyone’s kids.
We don't have the talent to advance in the playoffs more than a round or so. And our area will never be a place people want to come. I think BF does a great job on the offensive side. I also think we could do better on the other side, but we are not coached well. With that being said, we will not become a title contender with that, just make our chances better of competing with the better schools. I think the biggest gripe in town is this. We had a shot for 3 years to go several rounds if we could have fielded a defense. But those chances are gone now, so we will be back to contending for a Dc and a round or so. This isn't the hardcore PNG of old. We are a much softer version...
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1 hour ago, Rez Ipsa said:
Two things killed us against FBM:
1) Speed. They had it on both sides of the ball. Made the Indians look they were moving in slow motion.
2) A dominant FBM defensive line. PNG was barely able to get plays off all night -- Roschon was running for his life, there was no time get anything set up on offense, and our OL was manhandled from start to finish.
I do agree that defense is a big thing that we need to improve, and it is usually THE big thing we need to improve, but a better defense wouldn't have brought us the win against FBM, not without a better O-Line and more overall speed on both sides of the ball.
If you watched the SC game, FBM had the same speed advantage. The difference was Aledo took better angles, and played in position. Basically a well coached defense was able to slow them down. We lack that, and have for years. So overall speed isn't gonna cut it, being in position and learning how to tackle would greatly help us defensively. I do agree, we need to be much improved on the O line as well. Injuries might have played a small part in that, but we need to get NASTY on the line. I think this will be a super interesting year to see what we have to offer without Shug. Without him last year we lost to a team that IMO looked like a JV squad. Should be interesting.
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As I said, Silsbee is good enough to beat these guys. Football is football, you take all the good with the bad. Its not a friendly game. Playing the tough schedule Silsbee did prepared them and they almost pulled it out. Congrats on a good season...
- Who That and BMTSoulja1
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1 hour ago, L-Train11 said:
How can you say comparing 4A to 5A is a joke, but Newton and wos consistently beat bigger teams.
And if you say Cuero doesn’t compare to any of those teams, will you retract your statement if Silsbee loses? Because if Cuero beats Silsbee who also beat wos and almost beat Nederland, then I would say there is a comparison there...
What I said was I think Silsbee has a shot. And I also said Cuero is not better than some of the teams Silsbee has played. And the difference in the speed of the games changes greatly between divisions. Once again, as I stated, Silsbee has a shot IMO. They where tested early on with tough teams, including Newton, who is the #1 ranked small school in the US. Nederland who seen round 2, and PNG who seen round 3. Not to mention a WOS team who had been to I think 4 straight SC games. Then they hit the cupcake schedule after that. Football isn't about almost, shoulda, coulda, and woulda.. Well maybe in Chumperton, but in football towns its about the now. Silsbee has faced better comp IMO. And this could be a reason they can beat Cuero....
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10 minutes ago, BMTSoulja1 said:
I just did my research on them. They try to put #3 and many positions to cause missmatches. WR, RB, QB... He is actually a solid safety... But I think Silsbee's defense will be ready having to chase Newton, PN-G, and WO-S around... The main qb , think he's #7, is ok, but I think he can be contained.
But the Gobblers Stoll have to contend with a good rotation of 4 RB's and 2 pretty sure handed and athletic wr's in White and Turk.
Soulja, you are correct. Any comparison between 5A and 4A is a joke, its a totally different level. I will say this, Silsbee looked good against PNG, until they wore down. Playing a tough schedule against some really good teams will help prepare Silsbee. Not a single team on the Cuero schedule can compare to Nederland, WOS, and PNG, including Cuero. I think Silsbee can win this game if they play up to their capabilities. And the tough schedule you guys have faced might be the tell all. Hope the Tigers can pull the win out. CONGRATS on a great season.
- BMTSoulja1, BruinGrad87 and STiger85
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9 minutes ago, Whoa said:
IMO PNG has no defense. Faircloth is obsessed with Qb records 2/3 rounds is all you get with that mind set. But I am Sure I will get a backdraft of criticism with this post Chris Gohlke and Matt Burnett would agree with defense wins championships
You get what you get. Hard to criticize the truth. We have had some of our best offenses with BF and some of our worst defenses.. But hey, it’s tough!!!
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One of those games where your outmatched everywhere... Good luck to Shug at UT. Hard to stop a talented team with a weak defense. I did think we could score with them, but we simply got embarrassed... It’s been a fun 3 yeArs though!!
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3 hours ago, Rez Ipsa said:
That was a great day. We'd all love for history to repeat itself. The key there was PNG's punishing defense. Our defense has gotten better and better from week to week. If we can avoid any big mistakes and make sure open field tackles, we can keep ourselves in the game. We shot ourselves in the foot against College Station in 2016 with big mistakes, and College Station capitalized. FB Marshall will do the same.
The key to that game was on field adjustments by D Long and Mike Long. Lamarque had been to 4 in a row, not sure if they had won any, but they where the team you had to beat to get to the dance. D Long threw behind the zone all night and it worked. And defensively Gholke put the nastiest hit on a receiver I have ever seen in high school football. That was the 2 differences, great on field adjustments, and a defense that laid the wood... Will take a special game this go around as well. If we go in with the same ole, our only hope is a shootout. Fort Bend will get 50++.... We need timely turnovers, great special teams play, the ability to stay within 2 scores, and momentum late in the 4th in order to pull it off.
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1 hour ago, aki1994 said:
Looks like Malik Hornsby didnt play against Manvel. They are a scary team.
Coogtalk. You're obsession is getting borderline dangerous
He was eligible the week after. So they beat Manvel in OT without him. He is electric. As I stated before, I think we can beat them, but everything has to go our way. We need to score at will, we need to find a running game other than RJ, and we need a few turnovers. The defense will not stop MH. We just need a few timely turnovers. RJ will keep us in the game, if we can get some timely help we can SHOCK THE WORLD... I do think we are a little better than what folks are giving us credit for. The one area we need to be GOLDEN, is special teams. We cannot give them the opportunity to run kickoffs back, but we cannot afford to give them a short field every series. Look for a shootout. I think if we do win, we will be down the majority of the game, and get a timely turnover in the final 8 minutes and grab momentum, and pull it out with less then 25 seconds on the clock........
COOGTALK.... I like your style. Nothing wrong with stirring the pot.
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I have not seen any team manhandle us like Huntsville did. They are superior at everything and are physical. They are a top 5 team in my mind. If we play the best game of the year we can hang, I think we will score points, we are just a poor tackling team, and I think we will allow a bunch of points. No prediction, but I think we have a shot if we play BEST we can..
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4 minutes ago, Coach #23 said:
Gotta have a coach that wants to throw it. Develop the players. Babin just wants to run it. Koch and Carr are capable receivers. Got a 6-7 TE that may get 1 look a game. Get the running backs involved. Screen game. Not that complicated. Its not the kids, its the system.
Agreed, his system is Fisher-Price at best. I do believe Chumperton has some athletes. Just need a system that utilizes them. Being one of the largest in the Division should not make for a 2nd round exit...
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15 minutes ago, Coach85 said:
This is not hear say. The guy was yelling that the o-line sucked and shouldn't be allowed on the field. Then started singleing out certain kids and berating them and that's when Faircloth went off on him. This comes from a person in the know and heard everything. This guy is lucky I wasn't near him. These young high school men bust their butts and work hard all football season. These coaches out in a lot of hours if their own time to help these boys get better. I think they all have done a great job of getting better through the season. So if any of you bleacher coaches think you can do better then go out there and spend the long hours the team puts in and lets see what you can do. If your not willing to put in those hours and not get paid a whole lot for it. Then sit down in the stands and keep your mouth shut or stay home and listen to the radio becausebi don't want to hear your stupid comments.
WOW... Big Props to BF then.... This dude shouldn't be allowed ever to walk in the REZ.......
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To all the CHUMPEES!!!!!
I know its different still being on the board after the regular season. But hey its 4A football. So look, I'm not saying I'm pulling for Chumperton, because that will never happen. But I will do this.
If I go through Chumperton this week, I will not litter in the city limits....
That's the best I can do.
- studd88, SmashMouth and Hagar
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Dustin Long is the all time wins leader as a PNG QB. In his 3 years he had 30 wins.
Shug is at 29 right now, if we win Friday at NRG, he will be tied. But would be the all time leader if not for the IPAD game....
D Long was 7-3, 9-2, 14-2
Shug is 11-2, 10,2 and 8-3 as we speak.
So big brother give Shug this info, motivation to get us through that 3rd round!!!!!
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I think this will be a competitive ballgame. I think PNG will come out on top.
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Always funny to see some of the ways a thread turns out. I just want to know what the person said to get to him. The rest is irrelevant..
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Was the fan from PNG? or just a random heckler from another school? or possibly a mad parent that little Johnny wasn't in the game?
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What he is saying is that 21 rows up you could hear Fairclothe word for word. The person he was screaming at was on Row 1.
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Not sure what I was, but he was extremely upset.
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12-5A Division 2 Predictions
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Well now the voice of reason. Never count out Nederland. I wouldn't count out Crosby. And PNG, wow, we have some serious work to do. I say this with all due respect... Then I will crawl back under my rock. I think our defense is better than our offense. Our line play is suspect, our QB needs some experience, I think he is a good athlete, but needs some reps to get better. We are a playoff lock IMO, but don't count out those teams with a Pedigree..... This thing is wide open. And I cant imagine anyone getting out of round 2... PNG,,,, Defense,,, SMH!!!!!