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5 minutes ago, The Icon said:

Yes - I enjoy going to many local games. I’m not saying your kids aren’t playing hard, most schools can say that. 

I watched y’all play Crosby a few years back and Lee last year. Once again, not knocking your kids. Yall have beat the teams you should beat and we’re defeated by teams around or above your level. Also, nothing wrong with supporting your community or team, just tread lightly with cultural paradigm shifts. Not sure if you’re singing the same tune if Lumberton is still in 5A.

 

 

I think what 11 is saying is prior to Babin, we were getting beat by teams like Central by 60 points, no exaggeration. After Babin arrived, we lost to Central in the final seconds of the game back to back years if I remember correctly. We beat the likes of Ozen, Vidor, GCM on our way to the 5A playoffs. The only things that have changed in the last 4 seasons (Babin era) is the talent level from year to year and now a drop to 4A. The culture shift is real and has not changed, regardless of the scoreboard or the opponents. It doesn't mean we are all of a sudden world beaters but what our players believe and what our opponents see/feel is different the last 4 years. That's a fact that can't be disputed. Hence, the phrase culture shift or change. 

On 10/31/2018 at 9:49 AM, CardinalBacker said:

I think Bridge City squeaks out a win in the friendly confines of Historic Larry Ward Stadium.  It's a tough venue in which to play.  I expect Livingston's players to be freaked out by the flyover that will come courtesy of the Orange County Mosquito Control plane.  Tired legs from the long bus ride and the fact that that the telephone poles are all taller than the trees will be hard for the Lions to adjust to as well.  They will no doubt be amazed by the size of our stands and our ample parking.  

It will also be mesmerizing to look across the field and see several thousand people dressed in red watching in eery silence as the contest unfolds.  Except when our award-winning band plays their hearts out, predominantly while we're on offense. 

There's no place like home. 

I love the comment about band playing while you are on offense. I've never understood why it is so difficult to understand, Don't play while we are on offense. Beaumont Central always got it. Our QB would have no voice after screaming over "Oh, they want some" the entire game. But Central would Never play while their offense was on the field. Even being the opponent, I loved it.  Oh, and I think BC will get the W. 

On 10/30/2018 at 9:46 AM, Lukethadrifter said:

Leaving the house around 4:30 and headed east to Beaumont/Lumberton so help me out guys. Where am I gonna eat at? Point the way to some good vittles. 

Depending on what you are looking for, you can't go wrong with one of these:

Brick Oven Pizza, Catfish Cabin, Going's BBQ, Napoli's Italian, Juan's or MiPueblo Mexican  or Hamburger Depot. I personally would not choose Tia Juanita's unless for the alcohol only but that's just me. And Kotoyama is good for Japanese. 

3 hours ago, L-Train11 said:

I think he is which makes his posts even more ridiculous. I’ve never seen anybody trash their own football team so much whenever they are in place to win an outright district championship for the first time ever. Do i need to remind people that we are talking about Lumberton here. The same Lumberton that has won a tri district championship, and bi district championship, and been to the playoffs as a fourth seed. Other than that we’ve been irrelevant throughout our 50 years of football. And here we are in this position and people still find stuff to gripe about.

We held Jasper to less points than wos did (yeah let that hit you. Our defense did better than wos did). We lost to a pretty good Concordia team who also beat Huffman as well. So they aren’t no slouch. And we were about 3 blown coverages away from making it a very close and interesting game with a Silsbee team that only allowed 21 points to Nederland two weeks before. The same Nederland team who is still undefeated to this point.

I’d say, all things considered (and remember it’s Lumberton we’re talking about), we’re having a pretty dang good year. And I’m looking forward to the next several years.

He's gotta be a dad upset about son being done wrong, in his mind. I don't know any other reason for someone to be that bitter and ugly during a winning season. Can't please em all

1 hour ago, ECBucFan said:

Best advice ever! LR needs to focus ONE game at a time! Good Luck LR!

Amen. The most embarrassing loss of my college career was when this small horrible team from California flew into town. They had already announced the program would be shut down the next year. When I tell you this team was not very good, I'm just being polite. We were prob 30-40 pt favorites. I don't know cuz nobody cared.  So most of our team was either drunk or high the night before the game and we just "showed up" the next day. That was over 25 years ago and I remember it like it was yesterday. The lesson: Never go into anything in life thinking you've already got it won. And be humble or God will humble you!

47 minutes ago, Huffman Hargrave Falcons72 said:

Our O line is a suspect on run blocking.  There Big, but not strong enough.. But if we would of just dinked and dunked the 2nd half and try to eat up clock and not make stupid mental mistakes we would've won.  But hindsight is 20/20. Our Coaches had a good game plan and it showed in the 1st half.  Now the 2nd half is another story.  Everyone can say we should of done this or that, but if you take the mental mistakes away that the players made in the 2nd half tonight we have a different narrative today. Had 3 total turnovers in the 2nd half with a pick 6.  The pick 6 was a lame duck throw that should not of been thrown up for grabs in zone coverage. Take that play away and again different ball game. Another pick was in our on endzone when we were driving. And another one was right before the game ended in the 4th, and who's knows we could've at least try a field goal.  But that all said, we see what our team can be, but we just don't have that killer instinct.  We are a finesse Team, that needs to get meaner in some positions to play this game.

These are 16-18 yr old kids we're talking about. As adults, we shouldn't be calling out mental or physical mistakes of individual players on here. It's a team sport and you win and lose as a team. Every kid out there made mistakes but some are just more visible. It's part of the game. But more importantly, those kids and their parents shouldn't have to read personal criticisms on a public forum. We need to be better than that. 

Great win!  Our boys showed a ton of heart to fight back after a dismal first half. Coaches made great adjustments at halftime and lit a fire under the boys.   It was great to see the heart that the Raiders showed tonight.  Keep working hard Raiders and good things will happen. 

And give credit to Huffman. They came out firing on all cylinders and put up a heck of a fight all night. They are a good team and will beat a lot of teams. Good luck to the Falcons the rest of the season. 

12 hours ago, BMTSoulja1 said:

Since we're on the subject of brothers, ill just throw out some known brother combinations...

Robert and Garrison Mitchell -  Central

Derrick Hall/Charlie Thomas - Central

Dalion Gants/ Dessane Davis - Central

Corey and Casey Nonette - Central

Travis and Quincy Victor - Central

I'll throw the Henry brothers in the conversation from Beaumont Kelly. There must have been 10 of them. Several played D1 and one that I know of, Adam, made it to the league. 

1 hour ago, Raiders94 said:

Lets keep it about sports! OK

 

I think with Lumberton moving down, it will give everyone in the district a new challenge. Even Lumberton!

I agree.  I remember LCM dropping down and I expected them to just run through the new teams.  It's not that easy and the work will still need to be put in.  I'm confident Babin and his staff will have our boys prepared just as if we were still in 5A.  

Oh and the '85 team lost in the State Championship game, so that's 3 titles and one runner up in a 5 year span.   

34 minutes ago, Raiders94 said:

Sounds like they need to go out and recruit like the other private schools.

That's what I was about to say.  Look at how the basketball team is doing it.  There also has to be an emphasis and an interest in being a Winning Football school.  That philosophy was squashed and eliminated when Eskue, Credeur, Williams and staff were run out of town in the 90s.  Kelly has never recovered after that but the angry, non-football parents accomplished the equality across all programs that they were so hell-bent on.  By the way, the football program led by that coaching staff won 3 State Championships in '86, '87 & '89 and never lost to St. Pius, St Thomas, Strake Jesuit and others.  As the old saying goes, "Be careful what you ask for because you might just get it"

6 hours ago, oldschool2 said:

That's a negative, Ghost Rider.  I won't budge on my beliefs on this All-District mess.  The entire All-District team is supposed to be representative of an actual TEAM from the district.  There should only be 11 on All-District for football.  And sorry...but if the coaches got together and actually picked an actual team to play against another district...like it's supposed to be done, the chances of them taking players from the worst team are pretty small.  That's because the teams that are successful...are usually successful because they have a team full of players that are "All-District" caliber.    But thanks to countless complaining and the need to please parents and fans...we now have All-District teams in football with 46 kids out of 6 teams...and even the teams that couldn't muster a district win will have several 1st Teamers.  Such a sad state of affairs we're in when everyone truly does get a trophy. 

I agree 100% with MOST of everything you said.  Too much emphasis on Equal Distribution of everything with no consideration for how well you perform or how much work you put in.  We don't want to declare a winner in anything because then the person who lost will have a damaged self-image.  So, it is best to just not keep score.   I hear ya brother.

Dangit Cardinalbacker. We had a good debate going about all district selections that would have led to Soulja and old-school both admitting that their statements were foolish and asinine and you ruined it. Good job. 

2 hours ago, L-Train11 said:

No they aren’t especially when Carthage is in the mix along with the rest of their district 

I'll take Carthage over that Crosby team we faced in Rd one 2 years ago.

1 hour ago, Bears in Hibernation said:

Good that’s a lot of traveling 

Yeah, LCM to Navasota is a good 3 hours by school bus.

7 minutes ago, oldbuc77 said:

Based on the number of schools in each division and given 16 districts in each division. It looks like a lot of 5-6 team districts. Those that don't like 5 team districts and were hoping for 7-8 team districts will have to 

Avg number of teams in a district:

5A D1: 126 schools/16= 7.875= average, 7-8 team districts.  5AD2: 127 schools/16= 7.9375= average 7-8 team districts

4AD1: 93 schools/16= 5.8125= average 5-6 team districts.    4AD2: 90 schools/16= 5.625= average 5-6 team districts

3AD1: 106 schools/16= 6.625= average 6-7 team districts.    3AD2; 105 schools/16= 6.5625= average 6-7 team districts

2AD1; 94 schools/16= 5.875= average 5-6 team districts.      2AD2: 93 schools/16= 5.8125= average 5-6 team districts 

Have no idea how many districts there are in 1A....I just know it's different than the other classes.

Obviously geography may dictate some districts that are larger or smaller than the average (it always does).

Don't know that this post has any relevance, but I'm bored this morning and thought this might help when y'all start speculating about who's in what district.....LOL

 

 

But that's assuming that UIL sticks to 16 districts.  I would hope that in 4A and below that there are fewer than 16 districts so we don't end up with 5-6 team districts.

12 minutes ago, GCM-RG74-WR8 said:

Thanks you Jesus!!

Does that put GCM back in 5A? 

3 hours ago, BMTSoulja1 said:

AthleticSupporter-Jock and CardinalBacker :

Calvin Tyler's Junior Year at Ozen, he finished with:

27 Total TD's

24 rushing TD's

1,809 rushing yard

8.26 yards per carry

As I've said before, horrible example using him the argument...

Can you explain what the criteria are for being voted 1st Team All-District?  Not your personal opinion but what the coaches use as criteria when placing their votes.

11 minutes ago, Jag Insider said:

This is the best looking helmet of them all!  Add a small star where Beaumont is.  Beaumont East Oilers...

I like the spindletop drillers or oilers. 

15 minutes ago, BMTSoulja1 said:

Yea, it was shocking that y'all bullied them up and down the field...

So, are you agreeing that he was a 1st-teamer  even though he was on a losing team?  That question is for you and old-school

1 hour ago, oldschool2 said:

What a joke.  Might as well have every starter on first team.

That shouldn’t have to be said.  Bad teams wouldn’t be bad if they had 1st teamers 

I disagree.  I can name plenty of examples at the high school and college level where there was at least ONE 1st teamer on a losing team.  I get the point you are trying to make but your statement, as well as Soulja's, is just asinine. We are not even talking about All-State or All-American, we are talking about 1st team all-district.

One quick example off the top of my head: Calvin Tyler was on the Ozen team that Lumberton bullied 2 years ago.  What was their record?  So, Calvin Tyler, by your logic should not have been considered for 1st team All-District?

16 hours ago, BMTSoulja1 said:

There were some players snubbed last year, and and lot of players that got in last year from a 2-8 team...  I was dumbfounded.  I'm glad they got it right this year.  Congrats to the the Tigers that made it.  Special shout out to Silsbee's #22 DB.

So, are you saying that if a kid is on a losing team (2-8 for example), that a kid on that team should not be good enough to be a 1st team selection?

Word on the street is that UIL will release cutoff #s on Wednesday. 

6 minutes ago, MackLewis said:

IF PNG had a defense and woulda won, they woulda played Fort Bend Marshal, a very beatable team.  

They have a good enough offense to beat anyone in region 3.  And they have the most important piece of the puzzle, a big time QB.

Before the playoffs became watered down, and when PNG played Stephenville for the state championship in the Astrodome, they didn’t have a major d1 player on defense.  But they played great defense, and could tackle very good.

You don't have to be a big time D1 player to be an exceptional, difference maker on defense. Example, Montana Q from Vidor. But you have to have some difference makers like him, preferably 4-5 of them, to slow people down in the late rounds of the playoffs. The PNG players played their hearts out on both sides of the ball and the coaches did their best. Sometimes you just get outplayed with a higher level of talent. Nothing to be ashamed of. Great seasons Indians!  

4 minutes ago, The Icon said:

Might be more of a Jimmy’s and Joe’s than the DC

Food for thought 

Parents never want to think it could be the Jimmy's and Joe's.