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I'm not sure exactly how it all went down... but if you have two separate groups fighting and shooting at one another, and a 3rd group, with better training and far superior firepower jumps into the fray while the other two are distracted, then that very well could account for it. not sure exactly what happened, but this would be a very viable explanation.

so this guy clearly hates the police. both articles are an effort to drag them through the mud. I have one major problem with them, though. Both articles are written in a way to cast serious doubt on police accounts of the shooting, and basically tries to pin the blame on them. Anyone reading the article can clearly see that. It gives the impression that a couple of guys are fighting, and then the cops just declare open season, indiscriminately killing anyone they see, even though it was just a minor dustup. But THEN, in another effort to again make the police look as badly as possible, the article gives the description of the scenario that one biker allegedly found himself in before being arrested (in order to criticize the police further): Among those arrested was Theron Rhoten, who had just pulled into the parking lot on his vintage Harley chopper when the bullets started flying. Rhoten showed up at the Twin Peaks restaurant for a regional motorcycle club meeting. But, according to his wife, he soon found himself in the middle of a deadly shootout involving scores of other bikers. Katie Rhoten said her husband ran for cover and was later arrested, along with motorcycle-riding friends and other “nonviolent, noncriminal people.” That doesn't really jive with the narrative the author of the "news piece" is selling, as he's suggested that the majority of the bikers were inside, not wielding weapons, and that it was generally a small fight that police just started blasting into.

Sweet!

I understand the law on that, but this is far from clear cut, right? let's say there's 300 people in there. a few start fighting. shots ring out. it spills out into the parking lot. more people start fighting. people get killed. all 300 are not responsible for that, though. I understand that there were a LOT of people fighting, but just because I'm with a group and some of them get in a fight does not make me responsible. now, if I'm with a group that's involved in a home invasion, sure, I'm held responsible for all acts that occur while committing that crime. but if I'm with a large group eating dinner and hanging out, not committing any criminal act, and it goes to crap and a bunch of folks around me start fighting, you mean to tell me that I'm going to be charged with first degree felonies for simply being there? I don't see that working out. A lot of these charges will be dropped completely, and many more will be reduced or pled down. in order to make these charges stick, they're going to have to find a way to prove that they were actually involved in the melee, and not simply in the vicinity. PS: Correct me if I'm wrong. I'm not trying to lecture you. I just didn't feel like writing that whole paragraph as a question.

I think so.

Hardly. I'm a mavs fan. I'll pull for the rockets if the mavs are out because they're a texas team (although i do not extend that to the spurs :) ) but I also enjoy watching GS a lot. A bandwagon fan is the guy who hasn't watched the rockets in years and is now tuning in because they're finding some success again.

One would think not. Of course, he's used to carrying a gun, and if someone is shooting at him and his buddies he might look at it as self-defense.

Anywho, best of luck to the rockets. I'd like to see them pull it out. The good news for me is I'm a Dallas sports fan, thus only a casual rockets fan, and I like GS as well, so no matter what happens, I have a western conference team to root for in the finals without the possibility of being heartbroken if Houston loses.

Paul > who? Just saying.

Could be involved in the violence, or could've just been there. Gonna be tough to determine who did what. Im assuming they're running GSR tests to start, and reviewing surveillance tapes if there are any. There's no way that every person arrested is going to be convicted, or even taken to trial for that matter.

This ain't the clippers. Heck, considering Chris Paul was playing hurt, the clippers weren't the clippers.

GS went up 11 with 2:06 left according to CBS stat tracker. GS then turned the ball over 3 times and missed 3 layups in the last 2 minutes. Hence me saying that they were doing everything they could to give the game away. I can link the stat tracker if you want to look at it.

I posted that while GS was in the process of blowing a big lead in a short amount of time. Regardless of what happened earlier, at that point, GS was in the process of almost blowing a game after building what should've been an insurmountable lead.

That's the series, IMO

The one where GS nearly blew a 9 point lead in the last 1:45 by turning the ball over.

GS doing everything they can to give them a chance

Have you seen curry and Thompson much? They can shoot with 3 hands in their face. And if you get too much pressure, they can drive and pass well too. Gonna be a tough series for the rockets.

Yup. Arguably the best jump shooting team ever.

Rockets better win this one. I don't think there's any way they win 4 of 6 if they lose tonight.

That too.

"Fit" is a relative term. There's no way that slightly chubby 30-something Zimmerman is outrunning beanpole teenager Martin.

I personally would continue to conceal mine. The half second i might lose drawing it will be more than made up for by the advantage gained by the criminal not knowing I have it.

Your thoughts?

marching on their behalf, protesting and rioting when police have to deal with one of them, and finding other people to blame for their criminal actions. wait, is that not right?

Definitely agree with this. It makes total sense to let items that the tax payers have already payed for through federal taxes waste away in storage, and then let tax payers buy those same items for law enforcement through local taxes.* *the previous statement is sarcastic.