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Hawks kinda coasted through most of the second half, and Huffman made a few big shots to cut the gap a little. Much better effort from HH this game, but HJ won a little easier than the score will suggest.

Hawks turned it up there, and got hot from deep. Realized these refs are really big fans of questionable offensive fouls and drew a few.

They look a lot better tonight. Hawks a little off. HH doing a good job of breaking the press so far.

you're still the only football poster on this site who's delusional enough to think that football success should be measured by state championships at PNG. your explanation of "good and bad" is inherently bad.

Were more dropping out and getting killed and sleeping on floors while he coached than the guy before who went 5-5? Are there not other schools with the same demographic in their district that he could’ve found a way to outcoach? And Sean Payton wouldn’t make PNG “state champ lucky” next year.

If you're not him, you're his mom or best friend. And you can't NOT take into account someone's record as a head coach. I'm willing to take into consideration that a program might need turning around, and that a coach might need a season or two to implement his program and see notable progress. But when a coach takes over a 5-5 team, goes 4-6 the next year, and then in years 3,4,5 combines to go 1-29, you better believe I'm taking that into consideration. All this "heroic" nonsense is laughable. He only coached at Eastwood for one season. if helping out those less fortunate kids was the goal, you'd think he would've stuck around for awhile. You can't really take credit for working in the squalid conditions (under-privileged, no weight room!) when you dip after one season. I'm not really at all sure what's heroic about taking over a 5-5 rayburn team. The guy who replaced him and took over his 28 or 29 game losing streak the next year and won two games seems more "heroic" to me.

didn't you hear? Coach Satcher CHOSE to go lose at those programs because he wanted to help out the underprivileged. PNG has nothing to worry about if they hire him.

Interesting concept, but you're not taking into account the cost of all of the staff needed for the game, the cost of electricity to run the lights, the cost of all of the equipment for the players, maintenance on the field and stadium, the cost of trainers, etc. etc. etc., not to mention the cost of gas to run the players around in busses, the payment to all of the coaches who wouldn't even be there without football, and many more expenses. High school football isn't making any money for the overwhelming majority of schools in Texas, it's costing them money. Each student that shows up to class is drawing ADA money from the state. while a teacher may not "make money for the school", they actually do the work that schools are designed for.

For "not being him" you sure have all the deets about him. Unfortunately his coaching record is going to be a nonstarter for a program that's used to winning records and going to the playoffs. Well, maybe not. They just ran off a guy who does that. Maybe they're looking for a guy with a heart of gold and connections to the program from way back. If so, you, i mean he, might be the man!

I'm fairly confident this man has considerably more basketball and coaching experience than you. Then again, he may not be who I think he is (but I'm fairly sure it's who I think it is).

That explains the third quarter. what about the 4th? I'm sure there's a reason for these players being benched.

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HF with 6 second half points?

I don’t disagree with this. There are just a lot of people talking up the png job like some established, winning coach is going to fall all over himself to come get the faircloth treatment

I know a lot of trump fans who loved it. Thought it was hilarious. Far more than 2.35%. But plenty also do/did what you are saying.

I know plenty of people who celebrated it. But I know your stance on his behavior. We don’t always agree on things, but our takes on trump are closer than you might think.

depends on your definition of quality. there are plenty of solid assistant coaches looking for their first gig. there are established coaches looking to come back to this area, etc. But "quality" coaches in good situations aren't going to be lining up to come coach in a daddy ball system. I guarantee just about every coach in the state, and certainly in the region, knows exactly what went down with Faircloth. If I'm a young up and comer, or maybe an older assistant who's never been given a shot, it's worth the risk. But no way in hell I'd leave a good gig to coach there.

can't really pretend to be outraged about this if you've spent the last year making a big deal about Trump's behavior not being important, right? The right has criticized the left and centrists constantly for being upset about mean tweets, but are quick to jump on Biden for this. And yes, Biden sucks, so don't get the wrong idea. That said, the left should be the ones criticizing creepy joe for being mean, and they're all pumped up about it. They're hypocritical, too.

to be fair, if it was trump you guys would be backslapping and high fiving. that said, yes, this was classless from creepy joe. just pointing out that pretty much every time Trump did something like this most of you guys would jump to defend him.

He's dominating that region with the same demographics and talent pool as the rest of them. It's unrealistic to expect him to somehow compete against the teams from Austin, Dallas, Houston, etc. It's not like he's got a team from Katy over there or something pounding all the crappy teams.

They're less talented than PNG. 0-10 last year, two other seasons of 1-9 since 2016. He'll do well to keep them around .500. Which will be a major success to everyone but Reagan.

PNG doesn't have the talent level comparable to Carthage, period. The fact that they're up a Division and have to play against much steeper competition makes it that much worse.

Yes, he could, with that level of talent and against that level of competition. that being said, Surratt wouldn't have sniffed a state title if he'd coached at PNG for the last 13 years. A great coach can only do so much, and there's a ceiling to what they can build. the ceiling in carthage is higher than in png, and the quality of opponents in their division is notably lower. There's also another big difference: Surratt has and has had for a long time the total support of the community. That makes a big difference as well (although total support still isn't going to help any coach make png any type of contender for state). I just read through this whole thread, and the guy who called you delusional hit the nail on the head. Post after post about not going to state. there are close to 3000 high school football teams in texas, and 24 go to state a year. For various reasons, some schools go multiple times in a row, or multiple times in the space of a few years. If you multiply 24 x 13 you get 312 teams that have appeared in a state championship since faircloth took over at PNG. 156 state champs, total (actually a few less, because there was no 6A when he took them over). And there are several, several teams and coaches that have taken up multiple opportunities to go to state. I'm absolutely not doing the research on this one, but I'm willing to bet less than 100 total coaches have won state championships since he was hired at PNG. In that time coaches in Texas have coached approximately 39000 football seasons, and less than 100 of them have a state title. Those titles happen for different reasons, whether it be talent, coaching, cheating, recruiting, or a combination of all of these things, but one thing is absolutely certain: there is no coach in the state, country, or world, that can take a school with a fraction of the talent of most of the teams they'll meet in the playoffs and lead them to state. There comes a point where the gulf in talent is too much for any team or coach to overcome. Scott Surratt could take over WOS tomorrow and lead them to frequent state championships from now until he decides to retire. The talent is there, the community support is there. He could take over PNG tomorrow and he'd never consistently lead them to a state anything, at least until reallignments drastically change the path that PNG has to take. For many teams their only shot at a deep run is a fluke situation, and that's certainly where PNG is. In the classes 4A and below a team can have a special class and make a deep run or a couple of deep runs, and a coach or team can overachieve and maybe make a magical run. but in 5A and above there are too many schools that field college teams every season. PNG isn't going to have a coach come in and magically make them capable of making deep runs against teams with 10+ D1 players, with several more D2 and D3 quality players, when PNG is fielding a D1 player or two every few years. As a matter of fact, PNG could combine their talent pool with Nederland and they're STILL not going to state. The idea that any coach that doesn't take his team to state hasn't succeeded is laughable. There are about 3 dozen schools in Texas out of 3000 that can use that as a realistic measuring stick for the success of their coaches.

there isn't any coach in the state that was or is going to take them to state. this is laughable. there are very few programs in any classification that can judge success and failure on trips to state, and PNG isn't one of them.

After watching the epic battle last night between Allen and Mahomes I find it pretty disheartening that Dak is somehow making nearly the same money they are. I don't think he's a bad qb, and he's great against bad teams, but the fact that he's the 3rd highest paid qb behind them (and just barely behind them) shows how bad the cowboys got scalped.