cougar14

24 offers so far but I think it's going to be LSU or Arkansas. A&M is in the mix too. I think he would actually be leaning UT but I don't think the Horns are recruiting him as a RB which is probably what he wants to play in college.

[quote name="aschom78" post="1412486" timestamp="1370933149"] [quote author=HUM398 link=topic=111829.msg1412482#msg1412482 date=1370924725] [quote author=$MTC-28$ link=topic=111829.msg1412440#msg1412440 date=1370908638] [quote author=SummerCreek it is! link=topic=111829.msg1412439#msg1412439 date=1370907905] [quote author=HUM398 link=topic=111829.msg1412421#msg1412421 date=1370902595] [quote author=DChatman2008 link=topic=111829.msg1412386#msg1412386 date=1370893971] Summer Creek is going to lose alot of their players after this year but we are not crying .we will just reload [/quote] LOL!  You haven't been around long enough to reload, nor has your team or fans even earned the right to utter the phrase "we will just reload".    I will wager you don't make the playoffs in your first year in 5a.  [b]Right now[/b], Atascocita and Kingwood are both better than you....both are pretty much .500 teams in 5a.      That's with Sharp at QB.  You don't have the horses to run with either one of them.  Now take Sharp away, and a heavy senior team...replace it with what you will have in 2014....yeah, i don't think so. [/quote] Have you seen Atascocita? They cannot beat SC in football, and that's right now [/quote] Atascocita would wipe the floor with SC in the trenches and that's where it matters. Lets see what happens to sharp when he is running for his life the entire game. [/quote] Exactly....  Not only that they have an enrollment of 3200 kids....they are every bit as talented as SC at the skill spots. [/quote] I wouldn't say "Wipe the floor" exactly. AHS started 2012 looking like the best team they had ever fielded (even better than 2009 when they had guys like Kent Brooks on the team) however they got progressively more sloppy towards the latter half of the season, as they have done every year they have played (yes, every). If we are talking about the team that started the season, I'd say in a hypothetical matchup AHS would have been a 3 score favorite. With late season AHS, probably a tossup. [/quote]I don't think AHS or Kingwood would beat SC right now. We played Atascosita two years in a row with only half the enrollment and beat them by a combined 77-37. I know they were new but Atascosita and Kingwood are like Deer Park. Every now and then they might field a competitive team but they never have the horses to be a real threat. All the supposed talent in Humble and they've only made the playoff once in like 7 years. The Spring 5a district is tough which is the one SC would be in but I think they would battle for a fourth playoff spot with one of the Klein schools conceding losses to Westfield and Dekaney most years.   

[quote name="DemDAWGS!" post="1411897" timestamp="1370628968"] [quote author=CAL2TEX link=topic=112435.msg1411883#msg1411883 date=1370627606] [quote] Cuz no team in District 19 can say they BEAT SC ...including Barbers Hill.  All you can say is that you lost by the least amount.  Sad.  District 19 begins and ends in HUMBLE ISD.  Fortunately for BH you play SC at home.  [b]You don't want to face 20,000 faithful at Turner Stadium[/b] ...aka Title Town. [/quote] The only time you may even see close to 20,000 is on September 13th -- and even then... you'll have to be looking across the field to see that.  ;D [/quote] What team will be getting their L at the hands of SC on 9/13? [/quote]Y'all play PNG at home Thursday night on the Sept. 12th. I guess that's what he means?

There's already a bunch of guys that make over 100k. I know Lineweaver at Trinity makes about 115k. Gary Joseph makes well over 100k at Katy. Even guys like Kenny Perry at Arlington Bowie make over 100k. Larry Neumann makes about 95k a year. Most I ever heard though was Chad Morris who's now the OC at Clemson making 125k when he was at Lake Travis. If the game of high school football keeps getting bigger I expect the salaries to do the same. I expect 125k to be about the norm for a good AD/HC in a decade. 

[quote name="aschom78" post="1412216" timestamp="1370808531"] [quote author=RHBoiler link=topic=112408.msg1412157#msg1412157 date=1370752485] [quote author=DemDAWGS! link=topic=112408.msg1411334#msg1411334 date=1370527594] At the end of the day ...[b]a 3 year old Varsity program is relevant [/b] in a very dominant region.  [/quote] Really? SC has a loosing record in playoff games (1-2). That doesn't sound very relevant. Manvel and Dawson were a combined 9-3 in playoff games after their first three varsity seasons. After four seasons they were a combined 18-5 in playoff games and had won three region titles between them. Now THAT is relevant! Until SC can get a winning record in the post season they are just puppies nipping at the BIG DOGS heals! [/quote] I thought manvel didn't make the playoffs until their 4th season. Dawson was quite the anomaly in their second season, having missed the playoffs the year before then making it to the state semi's. Definitely more than "Relevant". [/quote]Manvel got hammered their first four years of varsity play. Dawson was the one that has pretty much always been a beast. The sw side of Houston is the hottest recruiting area in southeast Texas right now and Dawson and Manvel benefited greatly from opening where they did.

398 you can argue all you want but like I said he was the weakest of the recent backs Katy has had. Aundre Dean who was the best of them all is buried on TCU's depth chart just like DY would be. I never said anything about him having bad grades on being a problem, I said NOT EVEN that stuff would make him be lowly rated. For him being the total package like you say he didn't do a single thing all the Katy backs do. Forget my opinion though, here's what rivals thought. Dean - [Hidden Content] Taylor - [Hidden Content] Young - [Hidden Content] I guess whatever your reasons are are better than rivals for him only getting 2 d1 offers? Your Humble argument is weak too. Y'all still have nearly 1600 kids in your high school. Y'all were good because you had 3000+ kids to choose from. Now your fertile recruiting ground is comparable to Porter. Y'all are North Forest in this district, a complete non-factor. I think y'all only crossed the 50 yard line on us twice last year and one of those was a long run late. Only way y'all will be relevant in this area in 4a is to get out of the district with BH, Crosby and Dayton. Lastly, look at the demographics of the NFL. It's almost 70% black. The majority of those players grew at a disadvantage. Like I said, I'll take the kid who had it a little harder over that kid that had it handed to them.

I'll go ahead and make our case. It has never really mattered who the coach was Crosby has always seemed to have skill players in the hallways who can create an effective offense. Raelon Singleton has a dozen offers and he didn't even play football year before last. I believe other than Ned, Crosby played the most brutal schedule in the bi-district. We played 6 playoff teams, 3 of which were ranked in the top ten in the state at some point and Manor who was the regional champion. While we averaged over 40 ppg on non-playoff teams we only averaged 23.5 ppg on teams that did make the playoffs. We bring back basically 9 starters off that offense and for the two receivers we lost we bring back the two kids that backed them up plus some big time playmakers off the freshman and jv squads. I believe we need to average 7 to 10 more ppg on the playoff teams this year to produce the type results I think we're capable of. This is  our second year in Riordan's system who I hope isn't putting in the same type philosophy that they had when they beat Dayton in the state championship which was " you can get yours but we're going to get more". We have a bunch of kids in that 6' 220-250 lb range I think would make good defenders but we'll see what happens. If we can stop people next year I truly think it's down to Texas City, Crosby, Elgin, Brenham and FB Marshall(if they go D2) for the 4A D2 regional crown. Vype magazine seems to pretty much think the same thing. I think we roll BH to open district play and beat Dayton at home the next week. I don't know about the SC game because they throw the ball so well and that's killer in high school, Lake Travis won 5 in a row doing it. I know this, SC lost their big 300lb d-tackle and their playmaking ILB in Domio. I don't care what the stats said, that d-tackle was the best defensive player in the district last year and much like Deshawn Washington at Ned they disrupt your offensive rhythm to help make the stops SC did manage. I like our chances against SC though. Turner is an ISD stadium and we'll have just as many if not more fans in the stands than SC so the home field advantage will be minimal. Going to be interesting either way with all the talent on the field during the Crosby-SC game.

[quote name="bronco pride" post="1412072" timestamp="1370710141"] One more fact for coug14. LM played ns in 09 and got beat 44-34 i believe. That particular year lm didnt even make the playoffs in 4a. So your conclusion that ns would beat sc by 50 could be a little off. [/quote]Find where I said NS would beat SC by 50? I said they would put 50 on SC and SC would probably score less than they did on Georgetown. To be fair to La Marque they were in the district with state ranked Manvel and Dawson, Texas City and 2000+ enrollment Freindswood that year. They got 44 put on them too with a d that was probably a little better than SC's. I said Katy has two players now that would for sure start NS. The Young kid played a few years ago.

[quote name="HUM398" post="1412005" timestamp="1370656816"] [quote author=cougar14 link=topic=111829.msg1411926#msg1411926 date=1370636561] To think that Katy has more talent than North Shore is also stupid. Talent is one thing, buying into a program is completely another. Just because you're dedicated and operate as one doesn't mean you have a bunch of talent. Katy is good because they can their kids close to the ceiling while they're still in high school. You ask the UT recruiter who he's taking and it's going to be the kid from North Shore 9 out of 10 times strictly because he's more TALENTED, not because he bought into a program last year. North Shore doesn't highlight anybody, that's why you don't know who half their kids are until they sign with Alabama or UT. Besides Bobby Reid there hasn't been a feature player at North Shore since Tiki Hardeman. The backs split carries, the qb usually gets a scholarship as an "athlete" and they hardly throw to the receivers which are often D1 recruits. Katy is going to play mistake free and out execute you, that's discipline not talent. There's D1 recruits from North Shore who've barely started so how are they being highlighted? If anybody highlights players it's Katy. That's why you can't tell me the name of North Shore's backs but I can name you all of Katy's. They give it to them 25 times a game and they get a bunch of yards and accolades which is the definition of highlighting a player, see Dean, Young and Taylor. Most years the rb is the only player you can name off Katy's team. I guess Nick Saban and Mack Brown are idiots though since they take the kids from North Shore over Katy. Don't mistake being coachable or playing in a good system for having talent or upside because they're two completely different things as you can see every year on signing day. [/quote] Its like you don't even read what i type.  You just see me not giving a crap that NS has superior individual talent then Katy, and assume that i am trying to say that Katy and NS are equal on an individual athletic scale. My first contention with you, is that you are either ignorant or slow in regards to evaluating physical talent Ex. RB Donovan Young.  Just because he didn't dawn on the red and black uniforms doesn't mean he isn't ever bit as talented as Woods or Cornett.  In happen to know for a fact that every school in the country was in physical talks with Young, and it was other elements that prevented him from getting the actual offers.  Without hanging out dirty laundry, you need to understand that.  Young was every bit the back that NS had in the backfield if not more.  You want to claim that his success was a mere result of his offensive line.  When Young played the limited games he did for Humble (varsity) he was lights out....behind an Humble offensive line that was at best below average.    Just because they don't go to NS doesn't mean they aren't individually better than who you have.  period.  Young was a total package back, Woods and Cornett were not. Second contention is that you keep reverting to values that have nothing to do with the performance of team or individual stats on the HIGH SCHOOL gridiron.    You simply use a measurement that has proven to not be a reliable measurement of overall production from teams.    You want to use measurements that College coaches use to determine if a student is compatible with their system, to measure the value of a completely different entity.    Im sorry, but the facts are that D1 talent more then often doesn't contribute to Elite program status.    We are infatuated with the prospect of a kid getting recruited, as if it matters on this level.    Coaches are recruiting seeds for their program, to make them into trees.  They don't recruit final products.  A lot of your great high school football players will never be great college players.....its a different game.      In terms of High school talent, Katy is every bit as talented as NS.  I would take a Katy Senior player over a Senior NS player 15 out of 22 times.    Again no one is denying that NS has a lot of talent.  Im just saying that your measurement of what a HS player could contribute to another HS team is based on variables that have nothing to do with High School football.    This game, Texas HS football, is more like the real world..... Were determination guts, and the pursuit of victory mean far more in measuring talent then how big and fast you will be in college. [/quote]I don't care how many points of contention you have, you're mistaken in your assessments. I don't know what these personal issuses you speak of about D. Young but fact of the matter is he was a three star back and received three star offers. These issues had absolutely NOTHING to do with how he was rated. Rivals doesn't care about grades and "issues", they grade football players. Young was an unranked back period. Taylor and Dean both started at least two years and had well over 4000 career yards while DY started started one and had less than 3000 career yards behind the best line of them all. Your thoughts about him are exactly what they are, your thoughts, and please with this total package stuff. The other guys were 4 stars and Dean is 4th on the TCU depth chart. My thoughts echo the sentiment of that first Wednsday in February. Miss me with that "this is what Texas High School Football is really all about". Nobody is prouder or has boasted louder to more people about what high school football means down here in Texas. You sound like a mouth-breather saying stuff like "its a fact that D1 talent more than ofter doesn't contribute to elite program status". Other than Katy name me an elite program that doesn't have elite talent? Lake Travis maybe but they had an enrollment advantage and the Gatorade National Player of the Year, first round L when they play the kids with the same enrollment though. What it's all about is those kids over there in Katy have a head start on life compared to the majority of kids that play on a team like North Shore or Skyline or Westfield or Lamar. For most of these kids if they don't get a scholarship they will never see the inside of a college classroom, on the other hand while most may not graduate the majority of the kids at Katy will at least attend some sort of college some point. Heck yeah you would take the kid from Katy over NS if you were trying to project their tangent's in life. There's an exponential chance in a lot of cases. You take him though, I'll take the kids that didn't grow up with a garage and try to coach them up because I know they'll be the hungriest and that's exactly what you see with the NFL numbers. Trey Hopkins and Sedrick Flowers will be drafted and if my cousin can make a roster this year that's a for sure three more NS grads in the league. Everybody has talent at that level so it's all brutally hard work and the kids from the east side prove over and over they have what it takes to make it to the highest level. Their parents don't have jobs they want to do but their cousins play professional sports so that's what they aspire to do. Sadly for some though, if they don't get scholarship they never leave the area and their paths in life could often be muddled. That's the real life I speak of, the same kids several years later people will be complaining about being a drain on their social system. What you need to be worried about is why once Humble High lost half their enrollment and has to play 4a they suck if y'all are such a fertile recruiting ground? I reacall Humble and Kingwood being beast before they built KP and SC. Now your fertile recruiting ground has three schools that suck and one that couldn't make the playoffs. I guess nobody is playing as one besides SC?   

[quote name="DemDAWGS!" post="1411978" timestamp="1370650618"] Thx for clarifying. Man, Dayton looked horrible against SC.  Maybe they had a bad night.  Conversely, Crosby looked solid. That game really came down to a couple plays. The 1st is an SC stop deep in SC territory on 4th down. Crosby went for it n didn't make it. The 2nd was an INT in the endzone by SC. Also, I believe Crosby had a receiver that dropped balls all night. I think one was in the endzone. [/quote]The 4th down stop was a huge momentum swing. I thought Raelon dropped two tds actually, the one in the paint and one where he ran a deep post with no safety help and stacked the corner but dropped one that couldn't have been handed to him any better. Riordan also got away from the run too early IMO. We threw for nearly 340 but it took our best weapon out of the game. Raelon is going to get his but I think our key to the SC game this year is Austin and our other big receiver Cullen Lee who's been Aston's main target in 7 on 7.

[quote name="DemDAWGS!" post="1411950" timestamp="1370641148"] [quote author=cougar14 link=topic=111829.msg1411948#msg1411948 date=1370640560] [quote author=bronco pride link=topic=111829.msg1411940#msg1411940 date=1370638337] [quote author=cougar14 link=topic=111829.msg1411926#msg1411926 date=1370636561] To think that Katy has more talent than North Shore is also stupid. Talent is one thing, buying into a program is completely another. Just because you're dedicated and operate as one doesn't mean you have a bunch of talent. Katy is good because they can their kids close to the ceiling while they're still in high school. You ask the UT recruiter who he's taking and it's going to be the kid from North Shore 9 out of 10 times strictly because he's more TALENTED, not because he bought into a program last year. North Shore doesn't highlight anybody, that's why you don't know who half their kids are until they sign with Alabama or UT. Besides Bobby Reid there hasn't been a feature player at North Shore since Tiki Hardeman. The backs split carries, the qb usually gets a scholarship as an "athlete" and they hardly throw to the receivers which are often D1 [right][/right]recruits. Katy is going to play mistake free and out execute you, that's discipline not talent. There's D1 recruits from North Shore who've barely started so how are they being highlighted? If anybody highlights players it's Katy. That's why you can't tell me the name of North Shore's backs but I can name you all of Katy's. They give it to them 25 times a game and they get a bunch of yards and accolades which is the definition of highlighting a player, see Dean, Young and Taylor. Most years the rb is the only player you can name off Katy's team. I guess Nick Saban and Mack Brown are idiots though since they take the kids from North Shore over Katy. Don't mistake being coachable or playing in a good system for having talent or upside because they're two completely different things as you can see every year on signing day. [/quote]man your funny. I bet i used to ball on you at greenwood park. [/quote]I have no idea what you're talking about and why am I funny? We used to play on Wade in McNair and MacArthur parks. I doubt you could ever beat me at anything Bronco. I'm talking anything athletic at all, even ping pong and golf. I'm thirty years old and still catching alley oops and getting 20 a night in our work league which is actually pretty competitive and full of ex college hoopsters. Your mouth is going to write a check your a*& can't cash. You can kill me on Crosby and Dayton all day but this really ain't what you want. I'll make sure my little Cougar14 drops the hammer on Dayton extra hard next year just for you. [/quote] Speaking of Crosby vs Dayton ...how'd Crosby lose to Dayton last year?  I'm still amazed those guys got 9 wins.  Crosby seemed like the better of the two teams talent-wise.  [b]Did this come down to coaching?[/b] [/quote]Over the years it has. We've had Jimmy Dickey, Larry Haynes, Kevin Flannigan and now Jeff Riordan while Dayton has had Jerry Stewart who was actually at Crosby first. Dayton has had a coaching advantage for a long time but we'll see what happens now he's semi-retired. I believe if we would have had Stewart we would have a state title and probably two or three regional titles in what would have been almost a 20 year tenure. My dad told me Dayton used to be a joke back in the day so I guess it has been their time, I guess we'll see what happens over the course of times with the new regimes.

[quote name="bronco pride" post="1411952" timestamp="1370641837"] [quote author=cougar14 link=topic=111829.msg1411948#msg1411948 date=1370640560] [quote author=bronco pride link=topic=111829.msg1411940#msg1411940 date=1370638337] [quote author=cougar14 link=topic=111829.msg1411926#msg1411926 date=1370636561] To think that Katy has more talent than North Shore is also stupid. Talent is one thing, buying into a program is completely another. Just because you're dedicated and operate as one doesn't mean you have a bunch of talent. Katy is good because they can their kids close to the ceiling while they're still in high school. You ask the UT recruiter who he's taking and it's going to be the kid from North Shore 9 out of 10 times strictly because he's more TALENTED, not because he bought into a program last year. North Shore doesn't highlight anybody, that's why you don't know who half their kids are until they sign with Alabama or UT. Besides Bobby Reid there hasn't been a feature player at North Shore since Tiki Hardeman. The backs split carries, the qb usually gets a scholarship as an "athlete" and they hardly throw to the receivers which are often D1 [right][/right]recruits. Katy is going to play mistake free and out execute you, that's discipline not talent. There's D1 recruits from North Shore who've barely started so how are they being highlighted? If anybody highlights players it's Katy. That's why you can't tell me the name of North Shore's backs but I can name you all of Katy's. They give it to them 25 times a game and they get a bunch of yards and accolades which is the definition of highlighting a player, see Dean, Young and Taylor. Most years the rb is the only player you can name off Katy's team. I guess Nick Saban and Mack Brown are idiots though since they take the kids from North Shore over Katy. Don't mistake being coachable or playing in a good system for having talent or upside because they're two completely different things as you can see every year on signing day. [/quote]man your funny. I bet i used to ball on you at greenwood park. [/quote]I have no idea what you're talking about and why am I funny? We used to play on Wade in McNair and MacArthur parks. I doubt you could ever beat me at anything Bronco. I'm talking anything athletic at all, even ping pong and golf. I'm thirty years old and still catching alley oops and getting 20 a night in our work league which is actually pretty competitive and full of ex college hoopsters. Your mouth is going to write a check your a*& can't cash. You can kill me on Crosby and Dayton all day but this really ain't what you want. I'll make sure my little Cougar14 drops the hammer on Dayton extra hard next year just for you. [/quote][b]so your saying you have to be athletic to play ping pong and golf[/b]. Also you play in a highly competetive work bb league. Wow. Im impressed. Also i dont want your little coug14 dropping anything on me. I actually call mine big Bronco pride but im sure little coug14 suites yours just fine. [/quote]Yeah, you have to be somewhat athletic to play both well. I was just saying even those. The basketball goal outside is 9-10 and my little coug can touch the rim and he just going to 7th grade next year so we'll see who does what.

[quote name="bronco pride" post="1411940" timestamp="1370638337"] [quote author=cougar14 link=topic=111829.msg1411926#msg1411926 date=1370636561] To think that Katy has more talent than North Shore is also stupid. Talent is one thing, buying into a program is completely another. Just because you're dedicated and operate as one doesn't mean you have a bunch of talent. Katy is good because they can their kids close to the ceiling while they're still in high school. You ask the UT recruiter who he's taking and it's going to be the kid from North Shore 9 out of 10 times strictly because he's more TALENTED, not because he bought into a program last year. North Shore doesn't highlight anybody, that's why you don't know who half their kids are until they sign with Alabama or UT. Besides Bobby Reid there hasn't been a feature player at North Shore since Tiki Hardeman. The backs split carries, the qb usually gets a scholarship as an "athlete" and they hardly throw to the receivers which are often D1 [right][/right]recruits. Katy is going to play mistake free and out execute you, that's discipline not talent. There's D1 recruits from North Shore who've barely started so how are they being highlighted? If anybody highlights players it's Katy. That's why you can't tell me the name of North Shore's backs but I can name you all of Katy's. They give it to them 25 times a game and they get a bunch of yards and accolades which is the definition of highlighting a player, see Dean, Young and Taylor. Most years the rb is the only player you can name off Katy's team. I guess Nick Saban and Mack Brown are idiots though since they take the kids from North Shore over Katy. Don't mistake being coachable or playing in a good system for having talent or upside because they're two completely different things as you can see every year on signing day. [/quote]man your funny. I bet i used to ball on you at greenwood park. [/quote]I have no idea what you're talking about and why am I funny? We used to play on Wade in McNair and MacArthur parks. I doubt you could ever beat me at anything Bronco. I'm talking anything athletic at all, even ping pong and golf. I'm thirty years old and still catching alley oops and getting 20 a night in our work league which is actually pretty competitive and full of ex college hoopsters. Your mouth is going to write a check your a*& can't cash. You can kill me on Crosby and Dayton all day but this really ain't what you want. I'll make sure my little Cougar14 drops the hammer on Dayton extra hard next year just for you. 

To think that Katy has more talent than North Shore is also stupid. Talent is one thing, buying into a program is completely another. Just because you're dedicated and operate as one doesn't mean you have a bunch of talent. Katy is good because they can their kids close to the ceiling while they're still in high school. You ask the UT recruiter who he's taking and it's going to be the kid from North Shore 9 out of 10 times strictly because he's more TALENTED, not because he bought into a program last year. North Shore doesn't highlight anybody, that's why you don't know who half their kids are until they sign with Alabama or UT. Besides Bobby Reid there hasn't been a feature player at North Shore since Tiki Hardeman. The backs split carries, the qb usually gets a scholarship as an "athlete" and they hardly throw to the receivers which are often D1 recruits. Katy is going to play mistake free and out execute you, that's discipline not talent. There's D1 recruits from North Shore who've barely started so how are they being highlighted? If anybody highlights players it's Katy. That's why you can't tell me the name of North Shore's backs but I can name you all of Katy's. They give it to them 25 times a game and they get a bunch of yards and accolades which is the definition of highlighting a player, see Dean, Young and Taylor. Most years the rb is the only player you can name off Katy's team. I guess Nick Saban and Mack Brown are idiots though since they take the kids from North Shore over Katy. Don't mistake being coachable or playing in a good system for having talent or upside because they're two completely different things as you can see every year on signing day.

[quote name="DemDAWGS!" post="1411862" timestamp="1370625505"] [quote author=cougar14 link=topic=111829.msg1411859#msg1411859 date=1370625252] [quote author=bronco pride link=topic=111829.msg1411845#msg1411845 date=1370624263] [quote author=cougar14 link=topic=111829.msg1411839#msg1411839 date=1370623833] No I wasn't refering to the entire district. All these kids are from one school. One more time for you Dawgs. Every player on this list went or goes to NORTH SHORE HIGH SCHOOL. [Hidden Content] [/quote]theres actually a fairly descent player not on that list. [/quote]What is your buddy's son name who starts for North Shore? Was he on the varsity last year? [/quote] I think he's the kid that got knocked out during SC's 7-on-7 with NS. [/quote]Did North Shore have some light skinned guys in the secondary during 7 on 7 because i didn't see any when I watched practice with my cousin about 4 or 5 weeks ago?

[quote name="bronco pride" post="1411845" timestamp="1370624263"] [quote author=cougar14 link=topic=111829.msg1411839#msg1411839 date=1370623833] No I wasn't refering to the entire district. All these kids are from one school. One more time for you Dawgs. Every player on this list went or goes to NORTH SHORE HIGH SCHOOL. [Hidden Content] [/quote]theres actually a fairly descent player not on that list. [/quote]What is your buddy's son name who starts for North Shore? Was he on the varsity last year?

No I wasn't refering to the entire district. All these kids are from one school. One more time for you Dawgs. Every player on this list went or goes to NORTH SHORE HIGH SCHOOL. [Hidden Content]

[quote name="$MTC-28$" post="1411825" timestamp="1370622721"] Isn't the school called galena park north shore?? [/quote]Yes it is. Dawgs will figure that out once the Hennessey wears off.

[quote name="bronco pride" post="1411822" timestamp="1370622511"] [quote author=cougar14 link=topic=111829.msg1411760#msg1411760 date=1370617851] [quote author=HUM398 link=topic=111829.msg1411732#msg1411732 date=1370615051] [quote author=cougar14 link=topic=111829.msg1411698#msg1411698 date=1370608800] 398 I would even go as far as to say other than Aaron Sharp there's not a player in Humble ISD that could start for North Shore. Dakota Allen probably could too if he switched positions due to the fact Whitley is already commited to  Alabama. [/quote] LOL! Oh yes there is.  Youre going to sit here and tell me that a school district that has put numerous kids in to D1 schools and d2 colleges every year doesn't have anyone that could start for North shore?    LOL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! You must not be familiar with the level of athlete that this school district produces.  Urban Myer once called it the most fertile recruiting ground in Texas.  Don't mistaken having a Texas Legendary coach like David Aymond fool you into thinking that the talent at NS is unmatched.  their are very few areas in the state that have produced as much talent as ours. [/quote]Urban Meyer must have never been to North Shore. All the prospect in Humble ISD over about the last decade vs a single high school Humble ISD - [Hidden Content] North Shore - [Hidden Content] They've had more prospect than your entire district and better ones too. You need more than this? North Shore doesn't have twice the enrollment either, their school is just in a different place if you know what I'm saying. Bronco, I'm not knocking your son's friend but he's probably not good enough to play at NS which is the reason he doesn't like the coaching either. [/quote]he is actually a starting safety. Why would you make comments about kids you dont even know. It makes you sound ignorant which i dont think you are. [/quote]What's his name so I can look him up?

[quote name="DemDAWGS!" post="1411814" timestamp="1370621809"] [quote author=cougar14 link=topic=111829.msg1411811#msg1411811 date=1370621477] [quote author=DemDAWGS! link=topic=111829.msg1411805#msg1411805 date=1370621152] [quote author=cougar14 link=topic=111829.msg1411798#msg1411798 date=1370620925] [quote author=DemDAWGS! link=topic=111829.msg1411791#msg1411791 date=1370620227] [quote author=cougar14 link=topic=111829.msg1411788#msg1411788 date=1370620086] [quote author=DemDAWGS! link=topic=111829.msg1411778#msg1411778 date=1370619183] [quote author=cougar14 link=topic=111829.msg1411774#msg1411774 date=1370618738] [quote author=DemDAWGS! link=topic=111829.msg1411724#msg1411724 date=1370614138] [quote author=cougar14 link=topic=111829.msg1411698#msg1411698 date=1370608800] 398 I would even go as far as to say other than Aaron Sharp there's not a player in Humble ISD that could start for North Shore. Dakota Allen probably could too if he switched positions due to the fact Whitley is already commited to  Alabama. [/quote] [b]Gotta throw the flag on you right there Cougar14.  Northshore is still riding their state championship. [/b]  SC had several kids that could have either started or rotated.  You're not going to keep guys like State Track champion Greg Hogan on the sideline.  Torrey Johnson is a flat out play maker with exceptional hands.  You'd have to give him time.  So add Dakota & Aaron to the list ...we're at a handful.  There's a few more guys that I believe would see time as well ...just think they'd benefit from more individual time & coaching. [/quote]Riding a state championship? They won almost 80 district games in a row at one point. Is Greg Hogan playing over Alabama signee Deandrew White who was 4.3 all day in high school? Larry McDuffie was the other receiver and went to Houston. Hogan probably does rotate in but Dakota wouldn't start over Whitley who plays the same position he does at NS. Handful? Come on man, you have one for sure in Sharp and Peterson probably wouldn't start either unless he played center because both guards and tackles NS has now will play D1. Torrey Johnson is decent but he's probably the third receiver on NS's roster. As talented as you may believe SC is NS would put 50 on you on an off day and you would score less than you did on Georgetown. It has yet to be proven that the SC kids aren't just system kids like Lake Travis or Katy. [/quote] Gah-dammit Cougar14 you made me spit out my coffee! NS and other 5A schools have the ability to whoop up on SC because of the lack of beef on the lines.  We'll get killed in the trenches.  That aside, we see NS in the off season.  Those guys have a few stand outs and the rest are all mouth.  If they had more players, they'd run Katy off the field ...AS THEY SHOULD.  We  have 4.3 and 4.4 guys at every skill position ...starting with our 200m champion QB.  Our lineman run 4.6's. [/quote]Wipe off your screen so you can read this then. Georgetown won 3 games in two years in 5a and beat y'all soundly last year. Take the number of good athletes you have and double it. Could you beat that team? Georgetown couldn't make the playoffs in 5a and beat y'all, I don't know the last time NS didn't make the playoffs and most of the time they're three rounds deep in D1. [/quote] Finally we agree on something.  [b]Look no further than the O & D lines.  Gtown loses that game if SC had a comparable line[/b].  Our skill players didn't lose that game ...they kept us in it. [/quote]If y'all had a comparable line? Why wouldn't you, y'all have more kids. SC plays the game from the outside in which is why y'alls linemen are soft. We haven't had a good pass heavy team in the district I can rember but the second time around will be a lot harder. And for all the talent you speak of at SC why has Crosby had more D1 recruits the past couple of years? Our kids can play in any system, the jury is still out on y'alls. [/quote] I agree.  Not sure why we can't find lineman in the 1,400 kids in our school.  The knock on Humble and Northshore is we consistantly have stand out RB's and Receivers ...but suffer on the line.  On that list you sent (need to look again) ...[b]how many of those kids were O lineman?[/b]  Crosby and Dayton were the baddest boys on the block until last year.  Some perspective came out of Humble ISD. [/quote]OK you're in there with Bedelmon now. North Shore is O-Line high. There's not a school in the start who're produced the linemen NS has over the last 5 years or so. [/quote] [b]95% of the OL prospects came from Galena Park ...I was referrring to NS HS ...not the entire district. [/b] [/quote]What? Evey kid on the list played at North Shore High School. Galena Park is part of Houston where North Shore is. 

[quote name="DemDAWGS!" post="1411805" timestamp="1370621152"] [quote author=cougar14 link=topic=111829.msg1411798#msg1411798 date=1370620925] [quote author=DemDAWGS! link=topic=111829.msg1411791#msg1411791 date=1370620227] [quote author=cougar14 link=topic=111829.msg1411788#msg1411788 date=1370620086] [quote author=DemDAWGS! link=topic=111829.msg1411778#msg1411778 date=1370619183] [quote author=cougar14 link=topic=111829.msg1411774#msg1411774 date=1370618738] [quote author=DemDAWGS! link=topic=111829.msg1411724#msg1411724 date=1370614138] [quote author=cougar14 link=topic=111829.msg1411698#msg1411698 date=1370608800] 398 I would even go as far as to say other than Aaron Sharp there's not a player in Humble ISD that could start for North Shore. Dakota Allen probably could too if he switched positions due to the fact Whitley is already commited to  Alabama. [/quote] [b]Gotta throw the flag on you right there Cougar14.  Northshore is still riding their state championship. [/b]  SC had several kids that could have either started or rotated.  You're not going to keep guys like State Track champion Greg Hogan on the sideline.  Torrey Johnson is a flat out play maker with exceptional hands.  You'd have to give him time.  So add Dakota & Aaron to the list ...we're at a handful.  There's a few more guys that I believe would see time as well ...just think they'd benefit from more individual time & coaching. [/quote]Riding a state championship? They won almost 80 district games in a row at one point. Is Greg Hogan playing over Alabama signee Deandrew White who was 4.3 all day in high school? Larry McDuffie was the other receiver and went to Houston. Hogan probably does rotate in but Dakota wouldn't start over Whitley who plays the same position he does at NS. Handful? Come on man, you have one for sure in Sharp and Peterson probably wouldn't start either unless he played center because both guards and tackles NS has now will play D1. Torrey Johnson is decent but he's probably the third receiver on NS's roster. As talented as you may believe SC is NS would put 50 on you on an off day and you would score less than you did on Georgetown. It has yet to be proven that the SC kids aren't just system kids like Lake Travis or Katy. [/quote] Gah-dammit Cougar14 you made me spit out my coffee! NS and other 5A schools have the ability to whoop up on SC because of the lack of beef on the lines.  We'll get killed in the trenches.  That aside, we see NS in the off season.  Those guys have a few stand outs and the rest are all mouth.  If they had more players, they'd run Katy off the field ...AS THEY SHOULD.  We  have 4.3 and 4.4 guys at every skill position ...starting with our 200m champion QB.  Our lineman run 4.6's. [/quote]Wipe off your screen so you can read this then. Georgetown won 3 games in two years in 5a and beat y'all soundly last year. Take the number of good athletes you have and double it. Could you beat that team? Georgetown couldn't make the playoffs in 5a and beat y'all, I don't know the last time NS didn't make the playoffs and most of the time they're three rounds deep in D1. [/quote] Finally we agree on something.  [b]Look no further than the O & D lines.  Gtown loses that game if SC had a comparable line[/b].  Our skill players didn't lose that game ...they kept us in it. [/quote]If y'all had a comparable line? Why wouldn't you, y'all have more kids. SC plays the game from the outside in which is why y'alls linemen are soft. We haven't had a good pass heavy team in the district I can rember but the second time around will be a lot harder. And for all the talent you speak of at SC why has Crosby had more D1 recruits the past couple of years? Our kids can play in any system, the jury is still out on y'alls. [/quote] I agree.  Not sure why we can't find lineman in the 1,400 kids in our school.  The knock on Humble and Northshore is we consistantly have stand out RB's and Receivers ...but suffer on the line.  On that list you sent (need to look again) ...[b]how many of those kids were O lineman?[/b]  Crosby and Dayton were the baddest boys on the block until last year.  Some perspective came out of Humble ISD. [/quote]OK you're in there with Bedelmon now. North Shore is O-Line high. There's not a school in the start who're produced the linemen NS has over the last 5 years or so.

[quote name="DemDAWGS!" post="1411796" timestamp="1370620742"] Here's the thing ...all the schools you mentioned have one thing in common.  [b]They got 50+ hung on them by SC[/b].  They sure didn't do a good job of holding SC either.  Just sayin. [/quote]There's only one of those teams y'all hung 50 on and wasn't the ones in our district. [/quote] Really ...okay I'll spot you the few points we were shy of 50. [b]SC 4[b]9[/b] - Crosby 21 (all scored in the 1st half)[/b] SC 45 - Dayton 7 SC [b]5[/b]1 - Vidor 27 [/quote]Scored all of what in the first half? Did you even come to the game? I'm fixing to put you in the category with Bedelmon.

[quote name="DemDAWGS!" post="1411791" timestamp="1370620227"] [quote author=cougar14 link=topic=111829.msg1411788#msg1411788 date=1370620086] [quote author=DemDAWGS! link=topic=111829.msg1411778#msg1411778 date=1370619183] [quote author=cougar14 link=topic=111829.msg1411774#msg1411774 date=1370618738] [quote author=DemDAWGS! link=topic=111829.msg1411724#msg1411724 date=1370614138] [quote author=cougar14 link=topic=111829.msg1411698#msg1411698 date=1370608800] 398 I would even go as far as to say other than Aaron Sharp there's not a player in Humble ISD that could start for North Shore. Dakota Allen probably could too if he switched positions due to the fact Whitley is already commited to  Alabama. [/quote] [b]Gotta throw the flag on you right there Cougar14.  Northshore is still riding their state championship. [/b]  SC had several kids that could have either started or rotated.  You're not going to keep guys like State Track champion Greg Hogan on the sideline.  Torrey Johnson is a flat out play maker with exceptional hands.  You'd have to give him time.  So add Dakota & Aaron to the list ...we're at a handful.  There's a few more guys that I believe would see time as well ...just think they'd benefit from more individual time & coaching. [/quote]Riding a state championship? They won almost 80 district games in a row at one point. Is Greg Hogan playing over Alabama signee Deandrew White who was 4.3 all day in high school? Larry McDuffie was the other receiver and went to Houston. Hogan probably does rotate in but Dakota wouldn't start over Whitley who plays the same position he does at NS. Handful? Come on man, you have one for sure in Sharp and Peterson probably wouldn't start either unless he played center because both guards and tackles NS has now will play D1. Torrey Johnson is decent but he's probably the third receiver on NS's roster. As talented as you may believe SC is NS would put 50 on you on an off day and you would score less than you did on Georgetown. It has yet to be proven that the SC kids aren't just system kids like Lake Travis or Katy. [/quote] Gah-dammit Cougar14 you made me spit out my coffee! NS and other 5A schools have the ability to whoop up on SC because of the lack of beef on the lines.  We'll get killed in the trenches.  That aside, we see NS in the off season.  Those guys have a few stand outs and the rest are all mouth.  If they had more players, they'd run Katy off the field ...AS THEY SHOULD.  We  have 4.3 and 4.4 guys at every skill position ...starting with our 200m champion QB.  Our lineman run 4.6's. [/quote]Wipe off your screen so you can read this then. Georgetown won 3 games in two years in 5a and beat y'all soundly last year. Take the number of good athletes you have and double it. Could you beat that team? Georgetown couldn't make the playoffs in 5a and beat y'all, I don't know the last time NS didn't make the playoffs and most of the time they're three rounds deep in D1. [/quote] Finally we agree on something.  [b]Look no further than the O & D lines.  Gtown loses that game if SC had a comparable line[/b].  Our skill players didn't lose that game ...they kept us in it. [/quote]If y'all had a comparable line? Why wouldn't you, y'all have more kids. SC plays the game from the outside in which is why y'alls linemen are soft. We haven't had a good pass heavy team in the district I can rember but the second time around will be a lot harder. And for all the talent you speak of at SC why has Crosby had more D1 recruits the past couple of years? Our kids can play in any system, the jury is still out on y'alls. 

[quote name="DemDAWGS!" post="1411789" timestamp="1370620139"] [quote author=ram0524 link=topic=111829.msg1411787#msg1411787 date=1370620039] [quote author=DemDAWGS! link=topic=111829.msg1411780#msg1411780 date=1370619434] [quote author=ram0524 link=topic=111829.msg1411776#msg1411776 date=1370618861] [quote author=DemDAWGS! link=topic=111829.msg1411768#msg1411768 date=1370618576] [quote author=bigdog link=topic=111829.msg1411763#msg1411763 date=1370618016] [quote author=DemDAWGS! link=topic=111829.msg1411739#msg1411739 date=1370615780] They played a close game with their running back...wow. Nederland had a serious defense, but seemed to lack offense in a big way.  That brand of football only works around Beaumont  ...those teams provide practice games for Humble ISD. [/quote] It seemed to work just fine against 3 teams in the playoffs, including Dayton and the #1 ranked team in the state.  DemDawgs, put down whatever your smoking, its rotting your brain! [quote author=bronco pride link=topic=111829.msg1411738#msg1411738 date=1370615574] One thing ned leaves out about the pc win is that pc lost their qb the week before. He also happened to be a d1 caliber qb. I believe pc had to play their rb at qb. [/quote] Injuries are part of the game.  We have had more than our share.  And who's to say that our defense wouldn't shut the QB down if he had played??  We had Dawson down 16-0 up until the third quarter. [/quote] Dayton ranked #1?  That is a LAUGH.  You mean they WERE ranked #1 and got stomped by the true #1.  It wasn't even a game.  Nederland would have got atleast 50 points hung on them by SC.  Dayton was a very weak team. [/quote] Where did he say that Dayton was #1? If you get beat in the second round then you are not the true #1. If you said that SC's O-line was weak and not that good, how do you think they would do against 4 future college players on Ned's D-Line? [/quote] We'd hold them long enough to throw a bomb over their heads and score against your slow DB's.  Only need a few seconds.  Ask the rest of 19A. [/quote] Rest of your district wasn't as physical as Ned was. SC would have a hard time just getting off the line. Ask Crosby, Dayton, and Vidor how easy it was to block them "long enough" [/quote] Here's the thing ...all the schools you mentioned have one thing in common.  [b]They got 50+ hung on them by SC[/b].  They sure didn't do a good job of holding SC either.  Just sayin. [/quote]There's only one of those teams y'all hung 50 on and wasn't the ones in our district.

[quote name="DemDAWGS!" post="1411778" timestamp="1370619183"] [quote author=cougar14 link=topic=111829.msg1411774#msg1411774 date=1370618738] [quote author=DemDAWGS! link=topic=111829.msg1411724#msg1411724 date=1370614138] [quote author=cougar14 link=topic=111829.msg1411698#msg1411698 date=1370608800] 398 I would even go as far as to say other than Aaron Sharp there's not a player in Humble ISD that could start for North Shore. Dakota Allen probably could too if he switched positions due to the fact Whitley is already commited to  Alabama. [/quote] [b]Gotta throw the flag on you right there Cougar14.  Northshore is still riding their state championship. [/b]  SC had several kids that could have either started or rotated.  You're not going to keep guys like State Track champion Greg Hogan on the sideline.  Torrey Johnson is a flat out play maker with exceptional hands.  You'd have to give him time.  So add Dakota & Aaron to the list ...we're at a handful.  There's a few more guys that I believe would see time as well ...just think they'd benefit from more individual time & coaching. [/quote]Riding a state championship? They won almost 80 district games in a row at one point. Is Greg Hogan playing over Alabama signee Deandrew White who was 4.3 all day in high school? Larry McDuffie was the other receiver and went to Houston. Hogan probably does rotate in but Dakota wouldn't start over Whitley who plays the same position he does at NS. Handful? Come on man, you have one for sure in Sharp and Peterson probably wouldn't start either unless he played center because both guards and tackles NS has now will play D1. Torrey Johnson is decent but he's probably the third receiver on NS's roster. As talented as you may believe SC is NS would put 50 on you on an off day and you would score less than you did on Georgetown. It has yet to be proven that the SC kids aren't just system kids like Lake Travis or Katy. [/quote] Gah-dammit Cougar14 you made me spit out my coffee! NS and other 5A schools have the ability to whoop up on SC because of the lack of beef on the lines.  We'll get killed in the trenches.  That aside, we see NS in the off season.  Those guys have a few stand outs and the rest are all mouth.  If they had more players, they'd run Katy off the field ...AS THEY SHOULD.  We  have 4.3 and 4.4 guys at every skill position ...starting with our 200m champion QB.  Our lineman run 4.6's. [/quote]Wipe off your screen so you can read this then. Georgetown won 3 games in two years in 5a and beat y'all soundly last year. Take the number of good athletes you have and double it. Could you beat that team? Georgetown couldn't make the playoffs in 5a and beat y'all, I don't know the last time NS didn't make the playoffs and most of the time they're three rounds deep in D1.