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4 hours ago, AggiesAreWe said:

Add Hull-Daisetta to that list of misses. But in all fairness to them and H-D, 4 of their best players left before school started.

Probably could add Lumberton and Bridge City to that list as well.

Amen. I watched Hull Daisetta and Warren earlier in the season. I didn’t think either club would win a district game. I think injuries hurt the Raiders not sure about the Cardinals 

3 minutes ago, 5GallonBucket said:

Add west brook to that list as well

and I would say how in the world would you have Huffman over hj knowing who graduated and who was coming back

I think the biggest miss was Shepherd. They have just been down this year 

1 hour ago, Cardinal 1 said:

That's surprising honestly. Wow

Livingston is dangerous if the 3 is falling, if not they get average quick

2 hours ago, bullets13 said:

I was talking about winning 5 of their last 7, with one of those losses being the buzzer beater from Huffman.  They also played really well for half the game against HJ.  But yeah, it could be a trap game.  I think they’ll take care of business.

The down side of that is 3 of those 5 were against Shepherd and Liberty. I think they’ll beat Splendora as well though 

On 2/9/2022 at 12:23 PM, Cardinal 1 said:

I believe they can. HJ has the advantage in the post and a good press.

Livingston’s weakness looks to be getting the ball up against the press. The depth in that gym is definitely on their side. It takes a little time for a visiting team to adjust especially if they shoot a lot of 3’s. Should be a good game. 

2 hours ago, bullets13 said:

Good luck on that one.  HF is finally gelling, it seems.  

I don’t know if I’d call running up the score on a really bad Shepherd club jelling. I think HF should win this last district game but it could easily be a trap game on the road against Splendora. HJ is going to have a very similar situation traveling to Livingston on Tuesday. Depending on the outcomes of these games the seeding games could be really interesting. 

Money!!!

Upset here

38 minutes ago, TheDream34 said:

Boutee also has UNBELIEVABLE talent.  NBA talent & countless college basketball players.   They were rarely out-talented on the hardwood.  They could spread you & use that incredible talent...if you tried to chase them around the half court. 

They use a play clock in football for a reason.  They use a shot clock in basketball for a reason.  13 states already have implemented a shot clock.  About time the rest (including Texas) get out of the stone ages.  

Stalling is stalling no matter the form.  

I’m not in favor of the stall but a guy named Dean Smith invented it and rode it into the Hall of Fame. He had a pretty good player or two. I think the spread has a place in today’s game. I can think of several ways to attack this circle the wagon offense but they would probably go viral also 😂

1 hour ago, AFanInTheStands said:

Huntington won the 2nd game by 20+...straight from a player who competed in that game

Actually Huntington got 2 players back from injury and won the second game by 5. They went on a little run and won 6 out of their last 7.They had lost to Woodville by 37 in a tournament earlier in the year. Woodville ended up as runner up in the district and Huntington tied for 4th. 

16 minutes ago, AFanInTheStands said:

Huntington won the 2nd game by 20+...straight from a player who competed in that game

I believe Woodville was highly ranked in the first game. The spread was was implemented by coach Hand I believe because of the youth of his club. Not coming out to contest the ball was a huge mistake on the Woodville coaches part. It was not something he did to keep his team close. If you talk with Leland tell him I said hello. I haven’t talked to him since last week 

1 minute ago, AFanInTheStands said:

How is it a different strategy...Huntington smoked them the 2nd round of district that year when Woodville did decide to force the action. So, I think the Woodville coach knew what was up and he decided to give his guys a chance to win in that first game.

I think you need to research this game a little further. 

3 minutes ago, AFanInTheStands said:

What did Coach Mitchell do that was so bad? His players were playing within the rules of the game. Are there people on here that are jealous they didn't think of the strategy first? Any good coach, which Coach Mitchell is an excellent coach is going to do what gives their team the best chance to be successful. So, why is everyone faulting him for doing what he felt would give his team a chance to win the game?  

In the early 2000's Huntington boys and Woodville boys played to a 5-3 final, because Woodville sat in a zone and Huntington held the ball waiting for them to come out and play man.  I wonder if people would of blasted the Woodville coach for sitting in a zone if this site had existed back then? He did what he thought would give his team a chance to win. The next time they played that season Huntington won by double digits.

What Coach Mitchell was doing has the same concept as what Woodville did many years ago. If you don't like the strategies he uses then go get a teaching and coaching job and lets see what you do strategy wise when you play a team like Silsbee.

I give many kudos to Coach Mitchell for his strategy against Silsbee and what he has accomplished so far at Lumberton in his time there. His teams will continue to to be competitive and give people fits.

You better believe this site would have blistered the Woodville coach and rightfully so. The Huntington team was comprised of Sophomores that were not in the same class as Woodville. Huntington spread the floor and held the ball Woodville chose not to come out and force the action. Big Mistake but completely different strategy. 

The district is extremely close but it looks like all the teams are down from their glory years. I don’t know if we’ll see a deep playoff run from this district this year 

2 hours ago, TxHoops said:

Yes.  The long stretch before the Rideaux hire.  HF was very formidable in the time frame you are talking about. 

They had a young coach a few years ago that had a set of young twins who made them formidable. He would have turned the program around if he’d stayed but I think he left after one season. His kids were probably 3 or 4 years old and loved to play after the games were over. They made several questionable hires after that. 

1 hour ago, Jerry West said:

@whsalum can HJ hold off Livingston in Livingston is the question.  I didn't see the game they play Livingston at home but seems that could be a game that could allow Livingston to finish second if they win.  What do you think, can HJ beat them at their place?

It will be a good ballgame. Livingston has some kids that can get hot from behind the arc and make up for some ball handling deficiencies. The gym up there is nice but can give visitors fits if they aren’t used to shooting in it. If HJ wins this one it will be on the strength of their defense. 

Prayers sent!!

26 minutes ago, Cardinal 1 said:

I'll acknowledge that there are some unforeseen circumstances with the team that have arose that many didn't see coming, including the Coach. I know my assumptions was based on what they did last year and the players they had coming back. They have one of the most, if not the most, talented team in the district and have underachieved based on that talent. But they aren't having a bad season and the district isn't as soft as many thought including myself. 

I didn’t see them or Huffman losing 4 games. Livingston has been the dark horse for me. I didn’t see them in the hunt and they could finish 2nd

32 minutes ago, Cardinal 1 said:

They come in as freshman and sit or don't get challenged when transfering in. My son sat because of spread lies and hate for Rideaux. He and his brother actually went to HF elementary before homeschooling and then Tekoa from 5th-10th because that's where I worked and just was easier for our family. After his brother graduated from Tekoa, he wanted to go to HF. He was #1 in his class, but the class was only 25-30 kids. He wanted to graduate from a bigger school for better academic opportunities. He has a 4.0 gpa and does have academic scholarships since moving. HF is where all my nieces and nephews have graduated from and currently has my son, 3 nephews, 2 nieces, and 3 cousins. Why the hell wouldn't he want to go? My oldest son wanted the graduated from Tekoa for a tech scholarship and did. J didnt. Denson is the other kid that had to sit his sophomore year. He left BU because two of his honor classes had freaking subs teaching them 😂. He's an honor student at HF

I’ve heard all this before. I’m not the one you needed to convince. 

41 minutes ago, TxHoops said:

Meh, more a case of horrible defense.  That play is as old as Methuselah.  
 

I do enjoy seeing how happy some on here get when HF takes a loss.  Pretty humorous how times have changed.  When my boys played, if mediocre teams didn’t 30 piece the Longhorns everyone was disappointed. 

I don’t think anyone gets happy about HF taking a loss. I do wish some posters would acknowledge they aren’t as dominant as some predicted. The district is better when they are relevant. I gotta admit I thought they would lose 2 district games and be in a seeding game. I didn’t think they’d lose 4. 

10 minutes ago, Cardinal 1 said:

No, if you know then you know. All the top guys from SETX all train together at HJ during the summer under Coach Sneed and Coach Bason. We all know where everyone lives my friend. It's ok, HJ and HF are both open campuses and can get kids from outside the district. They just have to sit a year if they are high schoolers. 

I don’t remember seeing many sit a year at HJ . I do know in the last few years Parquet, Carpenter and Aktar have all left HJ and went to Beaumont. Not sure how many went to HF and had to sit a year but I know of 2. And not all the top guys from SETX train at HJ. There are some good ones that do though. I don’t blame them, Coach Sneed is a good one. 

Here’s my 😳 face 😂. Not really, I was expecting this one. 

25 minutes ago, Cardinal 1 said:

Yeah he's good at getting the kids from Beaumont their freshman year so that they can play at least 3 years varsity 😂

Now you’re just reaching!! 

I have only saw this once in my lifetime and it was at a little dribblers tournament many years ago. 

48 minutes ago, Cardinal 1 said:

Isiah Malbrough changed everything for HJ and is main reason they are having a great district run. I dont think anyone saw him coming! The kid developed his game seemly overnight and is just a junior!

No sir I gotta disagree. I saw this coming from a mile away. I told ya they had some kids coming off a 20-1 JV club who would contribute big time. Isiah was one of the kids I was referring to. My biggest miss on this club was White. He didn’t return and would have been a difference maker big time for this club. Samaha has really developed also in his sophomore season. Looks like the Hawks will finish district exactly where I had em penciled in. Maybe there is something to tradition and maybe the Coach is a little better than he was given credit for??