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Honest Abe

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[quote name="Stevenash" post="1363418" timestamp="1358190304"]
;D  Dove- Please read below about the Dogs just in case your vision is declining

[color=red][font=times new roman][size=14pt][b]20-4A District Champs 2010-2012
Bi-District Champs 2010-2012
Area Champs 2010-2012
Regional Quarter Finalist 2010-2012
Regional Semi-Finalist 2011[/b][/size][/font][/color]
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BIG SHOW

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[quote name="5 on 5" post="1363414" timestamp="1358189826"]
Just curious.....has our "savior" been identified yet?  I'm hoping to be able to get a good night sleep tonight
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My best guess would be Washington....Someone on the forum said something about a 6"4 guy and rebounding. 
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[quote name="BIG SHOW" post="1363423" timestamp="1358191075"]
[quote author=5 on 5 link=topic=108148.msg1363414#msg1363414 date=1358189826]
Just curious.....has our "savior" been identified yet?  I'm hoping to be able to get a good night sleep tonight
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My best guess would be Washington....Someone on the forum said something about a 6"4 guy and rebounding.
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Did Nederland get their "savior"?
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[quote name="Stevenash" post="1363604" timestamp="1358262268"]
Dove, were you aware of the following regarding Nederland basketball?

20-4A District Champs 2010-2012
Bi-District Champs 2010-2012
Area Champs 2010-2012
Regional Quarter Finalist 2010-2012
Regional Semi-Finalist 2011
[/quote] Actually I just noticed all of these accomplishments were done during a very short period- 2010 thru 2012.  Short ride but at least yall got a taste ;D
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[quote author=Stevenash link=topic=108148.msg1363619#msg1363619 date=1358265412]
I think it speaks volumes about Mr. English's coaching ability, don't you?
[/quote]Yes it does. ::)
[/quote]I'm proud of ya Dove. I know that was hard to say! ;)
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[quote name="rc2182" post="1363629" timestamp="1358267792"]
[b]Not trying to knock coach English and his accomplishments[/b], but when will he add a state appearance more or less a state championship to his accomplishments. With all the praise he get on this site you would think colleges would be knocking his door down.
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It's a good thing you didn't "try" to knock Coach English. ::)
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[quote name="Honest Abe" post="1363626" timestamp="1358267209"]
[quote author=BLUEDOVE3 link=topic=108148.msg1363624#msg1363624 date=1358266716]
[quote author=Stevenash link=topic=108148.msg1363619#msg1363619 date=1358265412]
I think it speaks volumes about Mr. English's coaching ability, don't you?
[/quote]Yes it does. ::)
[/quote]I'm proud of ya Dove. I know that was hard to say! ;)
[/quote] Yes it was!!! But not as bad giving props to HJ coaches  ;)
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Dick Vitale

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Trust me, Coach English has surpassed that bar LONG ago in Nederland! They used to get beat by PA Lincoln by 60 and 70 points! I know we put 60+ on them while I was at Ozen...NOW they are competing for district titles and BEATING the Port Arthur team that is now 5A...I would say that bar is LONG GONE!
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Well look at it this way..... how many teams in District 20-4A even HAVE a State APPEARANCE let alone a State Title? Two...Ozen and Central, with only Ozen winning a state championship...OK, in the ENTIRE Golden Triangle in the last 20 years? How many schools have won a title? 4...Ozen, HJ, Kountze, and Evadale...They aren't GIVING state titles away, man....They are very hard to come by...Nederland has done very well under Coach E., but to expect a state title out of them is a bit much...Not saying that it will NEVER happen, but look at the number of schools in this area over the last 20-25 years that HAVE...FOUR schools...They are not easy to come by my friend.
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[quote name="Dick Vitale" post="1363657" timestamp="1358271431"]
Well look at it this way..... how many teams in District 20-4A even HAVE a State APPEARANCE let alone a State Title? Two...Ozen and Central, with only Ozen winning a state championship...OK, in the ENTIRE Golden Triangle in the last 20 years? How many schools have won a title? 4...Ozen, HJ, Kountze, and Evadale...They aren't GIVING state titles away, man....They are very hard to come by...Nederland has done very well under Coach E., but to expect a state title out of them is a bit much...Not saying that it will NEVER happen, but look at the number of schools in this area over the last 20-25 years that HAVE...FOUR schools...They are not easy to come by my friend.
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Don't forget Lincoln  88, 89, 91
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Honest Abe

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[quote name="rc2182" post="1363653" timestamp="1358271024"]
Yes he has ,but the ultimate goal is to win championships and maybe that's coming and I am sure coach English would say the same.
[/quote]Did Coach English tell you that is his ultimate goal? I'm sure every coach would love a state appearance and/or title, but it can't be a realistic expectation.
I think it's more about life lessons and providing the best opportunity and experience for each kid he coaches. He's trying to help them reach their full potential.
Last year was not a state championship year, but it helped a kid earn a scholarship to receive a free education and play basketball for 4 years. He was ecstatic that he helped the kid achieve that honor.
We all know it takes a lot of skill and luck to reach state and win it. It will need to be a special group and/or player(s). This IS a special group, but there may be a piece missing. 2016 is also a special group, but they too have something missing.
As DV mentioned, the bar has been surpassed. One playoff appearance from 1955-2008, now four (this year will be 5) in a row including:

20-4A District Champs 2010-2012
Bi-District Champs 2010-2012
Area Champs 2010-2012
Regional Quarter Finalist 2010-2012
Regional Semi-Finalist 2011

Just for you BD3! ;) ;D
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[quote author=Dick Vitale link=topic=108148.msg1363657#msg1363657 date=1358271431]
Well look at it this way..... how many teams in District 20-4A even HAVE a State APPEARANCE let alone a State Title? Two...Ozen and Central, with only Ozen winning a state championship...OK, in the ENTIRE Golden Triangle in the last 20 years? How many schools have won a title? 4...Ozen, HJ, Kountze, and Evadale...They aren't GIVING state titles away, man....They are very hard to come by...Nederland has done very well under Coach E., but to expect a state title out of them is a bit much...Not saying that it will NEVER happen, but look at the number of schools in this area over the last 20-25 years that HAVE...FOUR schools...They are not easy to come by my friend.
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Don't forget Lincoln  88, 89, 91
[/quote] They also won one in 1995, but who's counting!!  ;)  Lincoln is no longer with us, sadly, and I DARE not give those accolades to Memorial!  :D...But hopefully, you all got my point! 8)
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English has built a system over here in Nederland. He is a good coach, but a better team-builder.

I hope Nederland wins every-year, but honestly, the best team English had to make it to Austin was the 2011 class.. Hope I am wrong

But all this talk of English had nothing to do with this outcome. Ozen just plain outplayed them for 3 quarters. Nederland will be just fine and still in the hunt for district again
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