BIG SHOW

No need to worry about a coin flip. Nederland will beat Memorial at home. 1. BH 2. PA 3. Ned 4. PNG

Not saying he doesn't have D1 potential. He has things you can't teach. Height, High IQ, good skill set and great jumping ability but there are also other parts of his game that needs work. Like more consistent shooting from 3 and mid range. I'm sure most of the schools that want him, feel they can get him to his full potential, which is what a lot of scouts look for. Also playing for a high profile AAU team helps. And No, I did not think Miguez was a D1 player. He was a great offensive player. However, I do feel he wouldn't of had 9pts vs PNG.

Not taking anything away from PNG or BH. They did a great job defending Hefner. If you remove Hefner on this team and replace him with Weisbrod or J'covon Brown do they lose? Do they score less than 9 pts? If Hefner gets the praise when they win, then he should take the heat when they lose. IMO... there is no reason a D1 player still doesn't do his thing vs anyone, not just PNG and BH defenders. I have watched him play several times and he needs to be more consistent. He has a ton of upside but he needs to show up every night.

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So PNG has a D1 defender?

Kris is the truth. That guy can play, probably one of the best to play for Ozen.

He's better than Weisbrod imo. Hefner's skill set and athletic ability is far beyond Weisbrod. Weisbrod makes a bigger impact on the game due to his size. 99.9% of Weisbrod points was layups and free throws. He would get high percentage shots and he had a lot more around him as well. I believe when it's all said and done, Hefner will be the best to ever wear a Nederland jersey.

I'll put it to you this way. If English was the coach on those teams Boutee had, he would also have the hardware. If Boutee had the teams English has had, he wouldn't even be in this conversation.

I agree, i wasn't trying to compare the two but a good opportunity to bring up the coaches. I've just heard a lot of Bmt folk give English grief for years. IMO he does more with less than any coach in the area. I think there was only 1 time where these two have played each other where English had the most talented team, and English won both times they faced that year. IMO WB had a more talented team tonight but English has the best player and we seen how that played out.

Also If anyone guestions that English isn't as good or better coach than Boutee shouldn't be allowed to post on this board as well.

Put to you this way. If RJ was FBM QB and there QB played for PNG the score would still be the same. They simply have a lot more to work with. At this level it takes a whole team not one outstanding player.

Yes, McMorris and Blyane Burnett. They will help Nederland but Nederland should still win this game without them.

I'm aware of his struggles this past season vs Memorial. That was a state championship team with a lot of seniors that have played 3 years of basketball. I will admit that Memorial will have a good post that has a ton of potential that could cause a lot of issues for Nederland but to be completely honest I think they split next year but I hope we get the double dip.

Sure!!! Why not. Would it not be a good move for him? If it's better pay? And he lives in Humble. Also, isn't Memorial losing like 12 Seniors? And yes Hefner will lead Nederland in beating Memorial but I forget Hefner is over rated and trash in your eyes.

This would be a smart move for him. He's a good coach and would do great there. Leave while your on top. Memorial will be in a rebuilding phase and will struggle. I look forward to seeing Nederland giving them a couple L's next season.

Probably lose PAM as well and get a Dayton, and BH possibly.

I would have to honestly say, Central isn't the team they use to be either. However, they didnt fall as far as Ozen. The sad thing is that they will combine next year and I think that hurts both schools. Now they will play 6A (which I think they should of already been playing..other topic) and we all know who the winner of that will be. Boutee! All the kids from 8th grade will enroll at Westbrook that are basketball kids. IMO.. it's hard to pass up playing for a coach like that, especially if your in the same classification. It will be interesting to see how it all works out. I wounder what the name of the school will be. I say Eastside Hurricanes.

Like i said before. Big 2 not 3 in this district. The worst Ozen team I've ever seen.

Yes I was and most of those turnovers were caused during the Nederland press and yes Ozen missed a lot of free throws. It's no secret that Nederland and Ozen are both down this year. The point was made to what i said earlier in my post that there is a Big 2 this year not a Big 3. It's not a knock on any of the players, it's just a case on how strong Ozen normally is in years past and this Ozen team is far from that. The same can be said for Nederland as well. Ozen looks young to me, so they will probably be back to Ozen form in a year or 2 if they don't combine them with Central.

That win was early and I think a full strength Ozen team gets handled pretty easy by West Brook now. Ozen also has everyone back but 1 correct? When was the last time you seen a mid county team able to press Ozen and have success? Nederland started pressing them late and was causing some turnovers. Ozen's guard play is the weakest it's probably ever been IMO. Next time Nederland plays Ozen I hope they press them the entire game. This would hopefully also get Nederland some easy baskets, it was hard for Nederland to score in the zone of Ozen.

Sorry to disappoint but there is no Big 3 this year. You have a Big 2 in Mem, and Central. This is the weakest Ozen team I've ever seen.

Monte already has almost as many wins as BF in MCM. In two more years he will have more.

Your welcome. It's all water under the bridge now. Time for 22 5A to represent in the playoffs

Your correct, it's very hard to rank them but I try to think of it as a best 2 out of 3. If each team played each other this way I think it comes out the way I have it. Vidor got Central at the right time. If they played Central later in the year, Central would of got them. IMO