Nederland @ West Orange-Stark

[navydawg31]

6 hours ago, AggiesAreWe said:

DCTF has WO-S as a 32 point favorite.

Not going to lie… I am very shocked by this spread DCTF has… seems to me to be a little lopsided. 

[AggiesAreWe]

1 minute ago, navydawg31 said:

Not going to lie… I am very shocked by this spread DCTF has… seems to me to be a little lopsided. 

100% agree.

[WOSdrummer99]

Massey has 42-14 = 28

[Darth Texas]

I saw Nederland in person last week and WOS in their scrimmage against PNG. Nederland didn’t show me anything that says they’re at a point where they can contend with the combination of Jefferson and WOS’s passing game. Conversely, if Nederland runs the ball the way they did against West Brook they aren’t going to get much on the ground. This might be a three-score game by halftime. 

[Razorback_Bulldog85]

2 hours ago, Darth Texas said:

I saw Nederland in person last week and WOS in their scrimmage against PNG. Nederland didn’t show me anything that says they’re at a point where they can contend with the combination of Jefferson and WOS’s passing game. Conversely, if Nederland runs the ball the way they did against West Brook they aren’t going to get much on the ground. This might be a three-score game by halftime. 

I think the run game was decent 140 yards between the two backs both averaged around 4ypc, Nederland just cant afford turnovers, penalties, and sacks in this game, and what I dont understand is why I hardly ever see Nederland run screens especially with two decent backs.

[navydawg31]

27 minutes ago, Razorback_Bulldog85 said:

I think the run game was decent 140 yards between the two backs both averaged around 4ypc, Nederland just cant afford turnovers, penalties, and sacks in this game, and what I dont understand is why I hardly ever see Nederland run screens especially with two decent backs.

The screen part… I don’t understand why that wasn’t involved at all… I hope the offensive play calling gets better this week. 

[Reagan]

33 minutes ago, Razorback_Bulldog85 said:

I think the run game was decent 140 yards between the two backs both averaged around 4ypc, Nederland just cant afford turnovers, penalties, and sacks in this game, and what I dont understand is why I hardly ever see Nederland run screens especially with two decent backs.

Correct me if I’m wrong but after calling plays the first year, Rich didn’t call plays last year and is not calling plays this year.  If so, is this a problem?  

[baddog]

Ned JV——23

WOS JV—-0

[wo-s#1]

3 hours ago, Darth Texas said:

I saw Nederland in person last week and WOS in their scrimmage against PNG. Nederland didn’t show me anything that says they’re at a point where they can contend with the combination of Jefferson and WOS’s passing game. Conversely, if Nederland runs the ball the way they did against West Brook they aren’t going to get much on the ground. This might be a three-score game by halftime. 

What passing game of WOS are you speaking off..didn’t see it last week ..it’s all Jefferson 

[spidersal]

Yes that was a question, why because several posters raved about all the talent they had this season. It was a sarcastic post because of all the ones bragging about all this talent. When I saw the WB game, I sure didn’t see a lot of talent. If they have this talent, they sure didn’t show it. Again, let me emphasize, when you lose several years in a row, you have a losers mentality, unless the coaching staff can change it. I simply do not think they have a quality coaching staff and that is my opinion

[WOSdrummer99]

3 hours ago, baddog said:

Ned JV——23

WOS JV—-0

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9 hours ago, WOSdrummer99 said:

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9 hours ago, spidersal said:

Yes that was a question, why because several posters raved about all the talent they had this season. It was a sarcastic post because of all the ones bragging about all this talent. When I saw the WB game, I sure didn’t see a lot of talent. If they have this talent, they sure didn’t show it. Again, let me emphasize, when you lose several years in a row, you have a losers mentality, unless the coaching staff can change it. I simply do not think they have a quality coaching staff and that is my opinion

You have to be the most negative fan I have seen in my life. When Neumann took over, Nederland wasn’t very good. He had to put his system in place and have it trickle down to the middle schools. It doesn’t happen overnight. Coach Lynch had undefeated teams and had players ready to play once they reached varsity and JV. You have to give it a chance. If they are so bad, why torture yourself? We have to remember these are kids and young adults. Maybe you should act like one and get behind your team instead of complaining.

[AggiesAreWe]

9 hours ago, spidersal said:

Yes that was a question, why because several posters raved about all the talent they had this season. It was a sarcastic post because of all the ones bragging about all this talent. When I saw the WB game, I sure didn’t see a lot of talent. If they have this talent, they sure didn’t show it. Again, let me emphasize, when you lose several years in a row, you have a losers mentality, unless the coaching staff can change it. I simply do not think they have a quality coaching staff and that is my opinion

Nederland's record the last 6 seasons:

2025              3-7  (1-6 district)

2024              7-4  (5-2 district)    1st round playoff 

2023              3-8  (3-4 district)    1st round playoff

2022              2-8  (2-5 district)

2021              7-3  (4-3 district)   finished 4th, lost tiebreaker via points

2020              9-3  (6-1 district, 1st)  2nd round playoff

 

Where is this several years in a row you speak of?

[WOSdrummer99]

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[spidersal]

The only years that you have with a good season is 2020-2021. 2021 they set at the house with a 4-3 district record. Don’t even mention 2024 when they chocked in the last district game and got embarrassed by Texas High, a team that PNG beat in the playoffs. Why did they get embarrassed Can you say because their defense was horrible you are still tremendous with stats, however you still have no answer about what it takes to win

[Darth Texas]

14 hours ago, wo-s#1 said:

What passing game of WOS are you speaking off..didn’t see it last week ..it’s all Jefferson 

They passed against png and looked fine. I’m just saying if WOS needs to pass they can. 

[AggiesAreWe]

26 minutes ago, spidersal said:

The only years that you have with a good season is 2020-2021. 2021 they set at the house with a 4-3 district record. Don’t even mention 2024 when they chocked in the last district game and got embarrassed by Texas High, a team that PNG beat in the playoffs. Why did they get embarrassed Can you say because their defense was horrible you are still tremendous with stats, however you still have no answer about what it takes to win

I'm not debating if Nederland was a good team or not. I'm disputing you saying they had several (several meaning more than 4) losing seasons in a row. Which I provided facts (not opinions) to show that wasn't the case.

They won more than they lost in 3 of those 6 seasons. 

Overall record was 31-33.

Now had you stated they had losing seasons in 3 of the last 4 years, then you would have facts to back your opinion.

But you said several seasons in a row and that is simply not the case.

[spidersal]

Thanks aggiesarewe, however several to me is more than 3 and 25, 24, 23, 22 were bad, that is more than 3. If several is more than 4 to you, then you are correct, however the record posted from 25-22 was 15-27

[Gasilla]

22 hours ago, navydawg31 said:

Not going to lie… I am very shocked by this spread DCTF has… seems to me to be a little lopsided. 

I'd be astonished if the spread was that large.

[NHSBulldogFan]

10 minutes ago, spidersal said:

Thanks aggiesarewe, however several to me is more than 3 and 25, 24, 23, 22 were bad, that is more than 3. If several is more than 4 to you, then you are correct, however the record posted from 25-22 was 15-27

24 started out 7-1 ended up 7-4 could have ended up district champs had a few things gone our way against Montgomery

[Gasilla]

18 hours ago, wo-s#1 said:

What passing game of WOS are you speaking off..didn’t see it last week ..it’s all Jefferson 

They threw it in the scrimmages. Newton plays defense differently. Hooks called it "Russian Roulette". They crowd the LOS and rush more than you can block in a spread set. Doesn't give you much time to throw, especially downfield. It's also why they gave up multiple TD's of 50+ yards. If you break the LOS it's trouble... thus "Russian Roulette".

Hoping to see the pass re-emerge this week.

[spidersal]

You are absolutely correct NHS, however they lost the last 4 games because of a defense that was bad. The Montgomery game, where if they would have won, they would have been 2nd and would have hosted got a playoff game. However the defense completely shut it down in the last quarter vs Montgomery and then proceeded to travel to Texarkana, where they completely been embarrassed I really believe Texas High could have scored a 100 if they would have wanted to

[AggiesAreWe]

1 hour ago, spidersal said:

Thanks aggiesarewe, however several to me is more than 3 and 25, 24, 23, 22 were bad, that is more than 3. If several is more than 4 to you, then you are correct, however the record posted from 25-22 was 15-27

2024 Nederland went 7-4.

That breaks a streak of losing seasons of 2022-2023.

So, even with your definition of "several" being three, you are factually incorrect.