Why harsh words in the time of death?

[thetragichippy]

1 minute ago, Big girl said:

He is a disgrace

A disgrace is someone who, first time in history,  purposely sets up the next President to fail.......

[OlDawg]

1 hour ago, thetragichippy said:

A disgrace is someone who, first time in history,  purposely sets up the next President to fail.......

I would actually call that traitorous.

[baddog]

Does anyone recall Reiner’s comments upon the announcement of Rush Limbaugh’s cancer diagnosis? How about when Limbaugh passed away? Yeah, that’s what I thought……hypocrites. Passing away does not erase or excuse what you did in your life.

[UT alum]

2 hours ago, thetragichippy said:

A disgrace is someone who, first time in history,  purposely sets up the next President to fail.......

You are outside your mind.

[UT alum]

2 minutes ago, baddog said:

Does anyone recall Reiner’s comments upon the announcement of Rush Limbaugh’s cancer diagnosis? How about when Limbaugh passed away? Yeah, that’s what I thought……hypocrites. Passing away does not erase or excuse what you did in your life.

Rob Reiner was not a President. He shouldn’t have said anything about Limbaugh, but he was just a citizen. Heads of State are rightfully held to a higher standard. Trump is the first leader we’ve ever had who has no standards. Hell, Harding and Nixon both had higher standards as regards the Office of the Presidency. Nixon hated in private but held himself out as a leader for all the people in public. Trump is incapable of displaying dignity

[baddog]

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[baddog]

Obama said the Charlie Kirk shooting was horrific, but defended the right to criticize him after his death. That’s an ex-president. Where is the dignity? Hypocrites!!!!

[AggiesAreWe]

I could care less what Reiner or any other of those Hollywood folks have to say about politics or people. They are idiots and not important to me.

POTUS is important to me and what he says or does or how he carries himself in the position of the office is important to me. I believe there is a higher standard. At least there should be.

Bottom line, Trump was wrong for making those comments. It was completely unnecessary. It's not what I want MY PRESIDENT to do.

Show some respect. show some class. It really isn't that hard to do.

I hold Trump and any President to a higher standard. That's how it should be.

[DCT]

44 minutes ago, AggiesAreWe said:

I could care less what Reiner or any other of those Hollywood folks have to say about politics or people. They are idiots and not important to me.

POTUS is important to me and what he says or does or how he carries himself in the position of the office is important to me. I believe there is a higher standard. At least there should be.

Bottom line, Trump was wrong for making those comments. It was completely unnecessary. It's not what I want MY PRESIDENT to do.

Show some respect. show some class. It really isn't that hard to do.

I hold Trump and any President to a higher standard. That's how it should be.

I strongly agree.

[LumRaiderFan]

49 minutes ago, AggiesAreWe said:

I could care less what Reiner or any other of those Hollywood folks have to say about politics or people. They are idiots and not important to me.

POTUS is important to me and what he says or does or how he carries himself in the position of the office is important to me. I believe there is a higher standard. At least there should be.

Bottom line, Trump was wrong for making those comments. It was completely unnecessary. It's not what I want MY PRESIDENT to do.

Show some respect. show some class. It really isn't that hard to do.

I hold Trump and any President to a higher standard. That's how it should be.

I guess it’s what someone considers a higher standard.  I want a President that won’t intentionally lie to me and cost me money by driving insurance up and I also would like a President that doesn’t make petty statements about folks.

But if I had to choose it’s a no brainer, one action doesn’t affect me and another does.  Maybe that perfect candidate will show up one day.

[bullets13]

Nah, I see a lot of mental gymnastics and justification for these nutso comments Trump made. I can live with “crude”, but this was delusional. I voted for the guy, and I’ll take him over the alternative, but I find it concerning that the person who’s running our country doesn’t have the self control or common sense to not make irrational, unhinged posts on social media. At the same time we’re supposed to trust him to not make irrational, unhinged decisions as president. 

[UT alum]

50 minutes ago, LumRaiderFan said:

I guess it’s what someone considers a higher standard.  I want a President that won’t intentionally lie to me and cost me money by driving insurance up and I also would like a President that doesn’t make petty statements about folks.

But if I had to choose it’s a no brainer, one action doesn’t affect me and another does.  Maybe that perfect candidate will show up one day.

Says the man who supports a President who lies whenever his lips are moving. He lies intentionally as well as unintentionally.

In addition, your statement that if it doesn’t affect you it doesn’t matter sums up a lot of the trouble we are having as a society today. 

[LumRaiderFan]

11 minutes ago, bullets13 said:

Nah, I see a lot of mental gymnastics and justification for these nutso comments Trump made. I can live with “crude”, but this was delusional. I voted for the guy, and I’ll take him over the alternative, but I find it concerning that the person who’s running our country doesn’t have the self control or common sense to not make irrational, unhinged posts on social media. At the same time we’re supposed to trust him to not make irrational, unhinged decisions as president. 

He’s been doing this for decades, surely you knew this before you voted for him.

It amazes me that folks thought Trump becoming President would all of a sudden change him.

[UT alum]

17 minutes ago, bullets13 said:

Nah, I see a lot of mental gymnastics and justification for these nutso comments Trump made. I can live with “crude”, but this was delusional. I voted for the guy, and I’ll take him over the alternative, but I find it concerning that the person who’s running our country doesn’t have the self control or common sense to not make irrational, unhinged posts on social media. At the same time we’re supposed to trust him to not make irrational, unhinged decisions as president. 

Thank you for your honesty.

[LumRaiderFan]

1 minute ago, UT alum said:

Says the man who supports a President who lies whenever his lips are moving. He lies intentionally as well as unintentionally.

In addition, your statement that if it doesn’t affect you it doesn’t matter sums up a lot of the trouble we are having as a society today. 

Can you provide me with all the lies?

There must be thousands if it happens whenever his lips move.

[LumRaiderFan]

1 minute ago, UT alum said:

Thank you for your honesty.

Honesty=agrees with me

lol

[bullets13]

1 hour ago, LumRaiderFan said:

He’s been doing this for decades, surely you knew this before you voted for him.

It amazes me that folks thought Trump becoming President would all of a sudden change him.

This is on another level. Both in absurdity and in craziness. 

[LumRaiderFan]

2 minutes ago, bullets13 said:

This is on another level. Both in absurdity and in craziness. 

Don’t disagree, but remember what he said about John McCain?

He’s been doing this forever, it’s who he is, I certainly won’t defend it, but I would certainly rather have a safe border than the alternative.

It just doesn’t surprise me that Trump acts like Trump.

[Big girl]

12 hours ago, LumRaiderFan said:

I guess it’s what someone considers a higher standard.  I want a President that won’t intentionally lie to me and cost me money by driving insurance up and I also would like a President that doesn’t make petty statements about folks.

But if I had to choose it’s a no brainer, one action doesn’t affect me and another does.  Maybe that perfect candidate will show up one day.

Trump lies all of the time

[thetragichippy]

1 hour ago, Big girl said:

Trump lies all of the time

Obama's lies cost EVERYONE money - you mad at him for lying to you? 

[baddog]

In other news, 20 people will be killed in Chicago this weekend and no one will know their names.

While I agree somewhat that Trump should not have said this, it would be refreshing if everyone else showed some respect for the office. It could tone things down a tad.

[OlDawg]

1 hour ago, thetragichippy said:

Obama's lies cost EVERYONE money - you mad at him for lying to you? 

More than money. Freedom. The freedom of true choice. That's not what the Dem's & Obama gave us. They gave us the illusion of choice with a hefty price tag.

Make no mistake. I'm not an ACA fan. I am a pre-existing coverage fan. Other than that requirement, I think the market should be open with cafeteria style plans available to whomever. Let the insurers offer us their options. Let us choose. Or, choose not to be covered. No government intervention telling them what they have to offer as a minimum covered item.

Stipulate with Medicare/Medicaid/Chip. Those are true government run systems. Don't tell private insurers what they have to cover as far as specific items.

[thetragichippy]

17 minutes ago, OlDawg said:

More than money. Freedom. The freedom of true choice. That's not what the Dem's & Obama gave us. They gave us the illusion of choice with a hefty price tag.

Make no mistake. I'm not an ACA fan. I am a pre-existing coverage fan. Other than that requirement, I think the market should be open with cafeteria style plans available to whomever. Let the insurers offer us their options. Let us choose. Or, choose not to be covered. No government intervention telling them what they have to offer as a minimum covered item.

Stipulate with Medicare/Medicaid/Chip. Those are true government run systems. Don't tell private insurers what they have to cover as far as specific items.

I'm with you - I think the answer lies in expanding Medicare/Medicaid somehow. I don't know how, and it is going to be difficult, but hopefully someone smarter than me can figure it out.