Setx fan Posted Wednesday at 02:38 PM Report Posted Wednesday at 02:38 PM 1 hour ago, purpleeagle said: Looking at the jr. high and JV scores with Newton shows me Woodville has a problem developing those young players. I think Woodville has good players, so, what is the problem? May be in a couple of years they will figure their problem out. I didn't expect jv to be that great this year. Most of the good sophomores are on varsity and the freshmen aren't spectacular overall although there are some good pieces there. JH is what concerns me. 7th looks good but 8th is not playing anywhere near their potential. I think bad coaching could ruin all the JH talent if they're not developed correctly. Seen it happen many times in Woodville back in the day Quote
setxnative453 Posted yesterday at 04:16 AM Report Posted yesterday at 04:16 AM Hitchcock won’t beat Hardin. Hardin will have a ball game on there hands round 3 and can potentially make it past Fairfield to Franklin imo Quote
Texasdude281 Posted yesterday at 04:57 AM Report Posted yesterday at 04:57 AM 35 minutes ago, setxnative453 said: Hitchcock won’t beat Hardin. Hardin will have a ball game on there hands round 3 and can potentially make it past Fairfield to Franklin imo I agree. Hitchcock is NOT the same team they were last year. Hardin is really physical. I love them being overlooked and riding under the radar. The game has to be played so we will see. Quote
BBfan061 Posted yesterday at 12:07 PM Report Posted yesterday at 12:07 PM 7 hours ago, Texasdude281 said: I agree. Hitchcock is NOT the same team they were last year. Hardin is really physical. I love them being overlooked and riding under the radar. The game has to be played so we will see. Hitchcock ain’t the same… but physicality won’t be a issue for them.. I watched them play Bellville this year… They are still solid.. and they know how to counter that offensive style that Hardin runs because Bellville runs a very similar one.. Quote
BBfan061 Posted yesterday at 12:08 PM Report Posted yesterday at 12:08 PM 7 hours ago, setxnative453 said: Hitchcock won’t beat Hardin. Hardin will have a ball game on there hands round 3 and can potentially make it past Fairfield to Franklin imo Why couldn’t Hitchcock beat Hardin? Don’t let them losing talent from last years team fool you… They still have a good physical team Quote
lionpride08 Posted yesterday at 02:20 PM Report Posted yesterday at 02:20 PM 9 hours ago, setxnative453 said: Hitchcock won’t beat Hardin. Hardin will have a ball game on there hands round 3 and can potentially make it past Fairfield to Franklin imo Franklin took 4ad1 #1 Celina to the wire and also beat Houston Legacy. The same Legacy that 5AD1 #6 PAM beat on the final play of the game. Hardin must be pretty good this season if they could beat Franklin. I'm not discrediting them or anything but Franklin is a really big step up from anyone Hardin has played this season. Hope they make a great run this season and we both do our part to meet each other. That game would be in the region final. Quote
AggiesAreWe Posted yesterday at 02:27 PM Report Posted yesterday at 02:27 PM 5 minutes ago, lionpride08 said: Franklin took 4ad1 #1 Celina to the wire and also beat Houston Legacy. The same Legacy that 5AD1 #6 PAM beat on the final play of the game. Hardin must be pretty good this season if they could beat Franklin. I'm not discrediting them or anything but Franklin is a really big step up from anyone Hardin has played this season. Hope they make a great run this season and we both do our part to meet each other. That game would be in the region final. and that game will be 1 hour and 45 minutes. BBfan061, lionpride08 and NHSBulldogFan 2 1 Quote
bd04 Posted yesterday at 06:14 PM Report Posted yesterday at 06:14 PM I really want Hardin to do good in the playoffs, but their strength of schedule they played this season is very weak. I hope I’m wrong, but in my opinion they’ll be lucky to get out the second round. BBfan061 1 Quote
kirkwood29 Posted yesterday at 06:36 PM Report Posted yesterday at 06:36 PM 17 minutes ago, bd04 said: I really want Hardin to do good in the playoffs, but their strength of schedule they played this season is very weak. I hope I’m wrong, but in my opinion they’ll be lucky to get out the second round. Nothing they could have done about that, the schedule was established two years ago, when they were 3-7 and not good at all. They probably needed the weaker opponents in the predistrict to establish some confidence going into the district that has plagued them for many years, right? to handle east chambers and orangefield the way they did, is a testament to that confidence building i'd say. i dont know how long this run lasts, because they continue to prove many of us wrong. whether they lose in the second round or the fourth round remains to be seen. Quote
lionpride08 Posted yesterday at 07:01 PM Report Posted yesterday at 07:01 PM 10 minutes ago, kirkwood29 said: Nothing they could have done about that, the schedule was established two years ago, when they were 3-7 and not good at all. They probably needed the weaker opponents in the predistrict to establish some confidence going into the district that has plagued them for many years, right? to handle east chambers and orangefield the way they did, is a testament to that confidence building i'd say. i dont know how long this run lasts, because they continue to prove many of us wrong. whether they lose in the second round or the fourth round remains to be seen. Just watched them play East Chambers and Orangefield. They are better then they have been for sure. They remind me a lot of Shepherd in 2023. But going to have to run more than 4-5 plays to beat a team like HItchcock in the 2nd round. 98% of the time it pitch to #10, pitch to #0, or qb sneak. Hitchcock will easily have the best defense Hardin has seen all year if they meet in the 2nd round. I picked Hardin to go 10-0 this season and make some noise this season in the playoffs. I hope they keep grinding it out and pushing forward. Quote
oldschool2 Posted yesterday at 07:25 PM Report Posted yesterday at 07:25 PM 15 minutes ago, lionpride08 said: Just watched them play East Chambers and Orangefield. They are better then they have been for sure. They remind me a lot of Shepherd in 2023. But going to have to run more than 4-5 plays to beat a team like HItchcock in the 2nd round. 98% of the time it pitch to #10, pitch to #0, or qb sneak. Hitchcock will easily have the best defense Hardin has seen all year if they meet in the 2nd round. I picked Hardin to go 10-0 this season and make some noise this season in the playoffs. I hope they keep grinding it out and pushing forward. I've seen them a few times on NFHS. Yes, they only have done a few things on offense... but it hasn't been stopped. I wouldn't change anything either. If you can't stop one or two things.. I'd do those same one or two things until the game ended. I'm sure CT has been in the business long enough now to have another option if option A isn't working. Just because it's not shown often, doesn't mean it doesn't exist. But what does exist is a big physical line with a pretty good variety of size and speed in the backfield. Quote
lionpride08 Posted yesterday at 07:53 PM Report Posted yesterday at 07:53 PM 28 minutes ago, oldschool2 said: I've seen them a few times on NFHS. Yes, they only have done a few things on offense... but it hasn't been stopped. I wouldn't change anything either. If you can't stop one or two things.. I'd do those same one or two things until the game ended. I'm sure CT has been in the business long enough now to have another option if option A isn't working. Just because it's not shown often, doesn't mean it doesn't exist. But what does exist is a big physical line with a pretty good variety of size and speed in the backfield. Size and speed vs the comp you have seen so far yes. But teams like Columbus, Franklin, HItchcock will have all that and more. I'm sure they have more in the playbook but let's be real here that will only get you so far running 3 plays. I have seen a ton of championship teams in person for the past 6 or 7 years due to watching teams all over the state. So what will you do once it gets stopped? Try new things when the game and season is on the line? Quote
oldschool2 Posted yesterday at 08:06 PM Report Posted yesterday at 08:06 PM 4 minutes ago, lionpride08 said: Size and speed vs the comp you have seen so far yes. But teams like Columbus, Franklin, HItchcock will have all that and more. I'm sure they have more in the playbook but let's be real here that will only get you so far running 3 plays. I have seen a ton of championship teams in person for the past 6 or 7 years due to watching teams all over the state. So what will you do once it gets stopped? Try new things when the game and season is on the line? Not sure if you know how vast the slot-t playbook is.. but it's not. Franklin has won state championships running the same handful of offensive plays all year. So that argument won't fly if the team is good enough at what it does. Don't think that I'm saying Hardin is on that level.. because I'm not. I think Hardin has holes in defense compared to state title caliber teams especially. They let Tarkington score.. and gave up a handful to Buna. State champ Columbus/Franklin would never. But Hardin does what they do well enough to keep offenses off the field so far. I'm not naive.. it'll eventually run out. Because clock control offenses aren't designed to play catch up.. or deal with turnovers. So we'll see. I'm happy for the school, though. A good year's been a long time coming. Quote
purpleeagle Posted yesterday at 08:20 PM Report Posted yesterday at 08:20 PM On 10/28/2025 at 10:41 PM, Setx fan said: You simply didn't have to mention Woodville if you didn't think we'd get past the first round since the topic is about teams who will go 3 rounds or more. You just couldn't help yourself I guess 😆 I think Woodville should at least get past the first round and probably be a little better next year. Things can go downhill quick when this sophmore group graduates if the coaching is no good though I hope you are right but you can’t even Spell sophomore. kirkwood29, lionpride08 and Setx fan 3 Quote
lionpride08 Posted 23 hours ago Report Posted 23 hours ago 1 hour ago, oldschool2 said: Not sure if you know how vast the slot-t playbook is.. but it's not. Franklin has won state championships running the same handful of offensive plays all year. So that argument won't fly if the team is good enough at what it does. Don't think that I'm saying Hardin is on that level.. because I'm not. I think Hardin has holes in defense compared to state title caliber teams especially. They let Tarkington score.. and gave up a handful to Buna. State champ Columbus/Franklin would never. But Hardin does what they do well enough to keep offenses off the field so far. I'm not naive.. it'll eventually run out. Because clock control offenses aren't designed to play catch up.. or deal with turnovers. So we'll see. I'm happy for the school, though. A good year's been a long time coming. If you think franklin runs a basic slot t then you have not seen them play. I watched two games of hardin and they ran a total of 5 plays. Franklin runs multiple formations from slot to wing to I and even pistol. So yeah that argument is valid. Franklin has even went spread in the past couple years during playoff runs. Im also want Hardin to make a good run. Last time I seen them play live was in 2018. By no means am I trying to discredit anything they are doing. But I have seen a few talking about making state runs (not here) but with that offense I don't see it yet. Quote
Setx fan Posted 21 hours ago Report Posted 21 hours ago 3 hours ago, purpleeagle said: I hope you are right but you can’t even Spell sophomore. Everybody can't spell as good as you champ Quote
BBfan061 Posted 11 hours ago Report Posted 11 hours ago 14 hours ago, oldschool2 said: Not sure if you know how vast the slot-t playbook is.. but it's not. Franklin has won state championships running the same handful of offensive plays all year. So that argument won't fly if the team is good enough at what it does. Don't think that I'm saying Hardin is on that level.. because I'm not. I think Hardin has holes in defense compared to state title caliber teams especially. They let Tarkington score.. and gave up a handful to Buna. State champ Columbus/Franklin would never. But Hardin does what they do well enough to keep offenses off the field so far. I'm not naive.. it'll eventually run out. Because clock control offenses aren't designed to play catch up.. or deal with turnovers. So we'll see. I'm happy for the school, though. A good year's been a long time coming. My only thing is Hardin doesn’t really run the Slot T though… it’s more based on toss plays (based on the couple games I’ve watched) The Slot T has more fakes and miss direction IMO. But I agree I’m happy for them and they should enjoy the ride. I’ll always pull for the similar run based offense that Bellville runs and I hope they win it all… I’ve just watched Bellville play Columbus and Hitchcock this year and defensively vs the run based offense they are tough. Best of luck to the Hornets the rest of the way! Quote
AggiesAreWe Posted 8 hours ago Report Posted 8 hours ago 2 hours ago, BBfan061 said: My only thing is Hardin doesn’t really run the Slot T though… it’s more based on toss plays (based on the couple games I’ve watched) The Slot T has more fakes and miss direction IMO. But I agree I’m happy for them and they should enjoy the ride. I’ll always pull for the similar run based offense that Bellville runs and I hope they win it all… I’ve just watched Bellville play Columbus and Hitchcock this year and defensively vs the run based offense they are tough. Best of luck to the Hornets the rest of the way! Hardin doesn't run the Slot. They run the Wing T Quote
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