Huntsville (29) @ Port Neches-Groves (39) - FINAL

[Reagan]

There were extended timeouts which, at the time, appeared to be TV/commercial related.  Fact:  There was a lady on Huntsville's sideline that during these extended periods would be on the field about 3-4 yards.  There either would be an official or non official standing next to her.  The play would not start until she said so.  She did this by rotating her arm in the fashion of when the ref wants the clock to start.  She rotated her arm, the ref blew the whistle and the teams returned to the field and play resumed.  

I believe Huntsville broadcast their games.  I thought the extended timeouts were related to this.  I saw the scissor lifts and thought the same.  I also saw 2 high quality cameras on the top row on the 50 yard line fenced off in purple fencing.  Interestingly, I never saw anyone operate these cameras.  Now, were they being remotely operated?  Didn't watch long enough to tell.  But, I did periodically look and they never seem to move from the original spot I first saw.  So, again, not sure what the deal was.  

[CS.]

Again-  the game was broadcast on Victory + which is a Television broadcast.  Same app to watch the Dallas Stars and Texas Rangers.  Exact same app on tv. 
those were legit TV timeouts.  Victory + broadcasts one game a week.  Also playoffs if i remember correctly. 
huntsville had a nice online broadcast as did NDN press, but the main cameras were a legitimate TELEVISION broadcast. 
the victory + app is free by the way.

[Mr. Buddy Garrity]

Question: is this Coach Joseph best complete team he's had while at PNG?

[CS.]

6 minutes ago, Mr. Buddy Garrity said:

Question: is this Coach Joseph best complete team he's had while at PNG?

It definitely seems like it at this point in the season.  

[AggiesAreWe]

56 minutes ago, CS. said:

Again-  the game was broadcast on Victory + which is a Television broadcast.  Same app to watch the Dallas Stars and Texas Rangers.  Exact same app on tv. 
those were legit TV timeouts.  Victory + broadcasts one game a week.  Also playoffs if i remember correctly. 
huntsville had a nice online broadcast as did NDN press, but the main cameras were a legitimate TELEVISION broadcast. 
the victory + app is free by the way.

Like I stated, the extended timeouts are for Television, not Texan Live which was stated in a prior post.

That was what I was pointing out.

Appreciate you clearing that up. I was not aware that Victory was doing the game.

[prepballfan]

1 hour ago, CS. said:

The game was on TV and they absolutely had multiple TV timeouts. 

The game was on victory sports national broadcast hence tge timeouts 

[ndn2016]

1 hour ago, Mr. Buddy Garrity said:

Question: is this Coach Joseph best complete team he's had while at PNG?

First of all I love PNG football, but I try to be realistic. It looked to me like Huntsville was fixing to beat PNG. I think that there is a timing issue with QB and receivers, several passes in this game and others this year have been 2 or 3 feet off. I think it is going to hurt them against better teams. I don't know if it's true or just my take but it seems like the first year this QB and his receivers were much more precise than what I'm seeing now. It is my opinion that it is a natural talent for a QB to hit receivers on the run, it's something that drills can improve but not produce. To answer Mr BG, I don't think they are the best complete team Coach has had, but I do believe they have a shot at being as good as any of the previous ones. 

[Mr. Buddy Garrity]

2 minutes ago, ndn2016 said:

First of all I love PNG football, but I try to be realistic. It looked to me like Huntsville was fixing to beat PNG. I think that there is a timing issue with QB and receivers, several passes in this game and others this year have been 2 or 3 feet off. I think it is going to hurt them against better teams. I don't know if it's true or just my take but it seems like the first year this QB and his receivers were much more precise than what I'm seeing now. It is my opinion that it is a natural talent for a QB to hit receivers on the run, it's something that drills can improve but not produce. To answer Mr BG, I don't think they are the best complete team Coach has had, but I do believe they have a shot at being as good as any of the previous ones. 

+1

I ran out of likes. 

[Coach85]

4 hours ago, AggiesAreWe said:

There are not TV timeouts in high school unless the game is actually on TV.

If the breaks were long it was only because the officials were slow. It wasn't because of Texan Live doing the game.

They had an official just like the pros and college football come onto the field after the extra point and hold their arm up. Another official, actually officiating the game, standing next to them. When the commercials were done the "media official" would rotate their arm as if to start the clock and the actual official would call the teams onto the field to line up for the kick-off. There were stints anywhere between 3 to 5 minutes in between extra point and kick-off. Sounds like commercial breaks to me. There were three camera's on sissor lifts. Two behind the visitor stands and one by the field house.

[AggiesAreWe]

37 minutes ago, Coach85 said:

They had an official just like the pros and college football come onto the field after the extra point and hold their arm up. Another official, actually officiating the game, standing next to them. When the commercials were done the "media official" would rotate their arm as if to start the clock and the actual official would call the teams onto the field to line up for the kick-off. There were stints anywhere between 3 to 5 minutes in between extra point and kick-off. Sounds like commercial breaks to me. There were three camera's on sissor lifts. Two behind the visitor stands and one by the field house.

But you stated it was for Texan Live. That is not the case. It was for Victory broadcast which is actually on TV. 

There are no TV timeouts for Texan Live broadcast. Just TV broadcast. That's what I was pointing out.

[CS.]

4 hours ago, ndn2016 said:

First of all I love PNG football, but I try to be realistic. It looked to me like Huntsville was fixing to beat PNG. I think that there is a timing issue with QB and receivers, several passes in this game and others this year have been 2 or 3 feet off. I think it is going to hurt them against better teams. I don't know if it's true or just my take but it seems like the first year this QB and his receivers were much more precise than what I'm seeing now. It is my opinion that it is a natural talent for a QB to hit receivers on the run, it's something that drills can improve but not produce. To answer Mr BG, I don't think they are the best complete team Coach has had, but I do believe they have a shot at being as good as any of the previous ones. 

Take a lap. 

[chief1987]

6 hours ago, Mr. Buddy Garrity said:

Question: is this Coach Joseph best complete team he's had while at PNG?

Not even close to his first year squad. They were hands down better. Any of these rah rahs say different they don’t know squat about football. 

[Mr. Buddy Garrity]

31 minutes ago, chief1987 said:

Not even close to his first year squad. They were hands down better. Any of these rah rahs say different they don’t know squat about football. 

I hear ya. 

[cal81]

Each year teams tend to take on their own identity.  There are several factors that help make that team (returning starters, experience, depth, health, strength of schedule, etc.)  To compare apples to apples, the 2022 PN-G team through 5 games was 3-2, and this year's team is 5-0, so it could be argued that it could be the more complete team.  We shall see.

A state finalist in 2022 and state championship in 2023 would take a "pretty complete team".  I believe early indications are the 2025 Indians have as good a chance at getting to the title game as both of those teams.

[NDNWarrior]

24 minutes ago, cal81 said:

Each year teams tend to take on their own identity.  There are several factors that help make that team (returning starters, experience, depth, health, strength of schedule, etc.)  To compare apples to apples, the 2022 PN-G team through 5 games was 3-2, and this year's team is 5-0, so it could be argued that it could be the more complete team.  We shall see.

A state finalist in 2022 and state championship in 2023 would take a "pretty complete team".  I believe early indications are the 2025 Indians have as good a chance at getting to the title game as both of those teams.

Agree

[prepballfan]

Ahh just like Whitesnake.    Here we go again. 

[Darth Texas]

1 hour ago, prepballfan said:

Ahh just like Whitesnake.    Here we go again. 

What’s Whitesnake? 

[OlDawg]

6 hours ago, Darth Texas said:

What’s Whitesnake? 

 

[Darth Texas]

1 hour ago, OlDawg said:

 

Ahh - I was thrown trying to think of a football reference . Thanks! 

[OlDawg]

37 minutes ago, Darth Texas said:

Ahh - I was thrown trying to think of a football reference . Thanks! 

Just be glad he didn't reference Cherry Pie. We'd have had this place rockin' this morning! 😁

[prepballfan]

On 10/4/2025 at 7:59 PM, chief1987 said:

Not even close to his first year squad. They were hands down better. Any of these rah rahs say different they don’t know squat about football. 

I often say this when you put hands down in your posts you are saying to everyone this is my strong opinion not actually a fact about your statement. Next time try to artuculate a reason why you believe your opinion to be true. Now thats not saying your wrong howevet it says to me you could have a bias for some reason or another. For example this years defense is smaller and faster like his first defense this is one reasin I think people are comparing  them. Also we are throwing more with a better overall group of recivers. Like his first year. Matbe thats why they feel that way. Who knows. 

[PhatMack19]

2 hours ago, OlDawg said:

Just be glad he didn't reference Cherry Pie. We'd have had this place rockin' this morning! 😁

Ya'll are old.....

[chief1987]

2 hours ago, prepballfan said:

I often say this when you put hands down in your posts you are saying to everyone this is my strong opinion not actually a fact about your statement. Next time try to artuculate a reason why you believe your opinion to be true. Now thats not saying your wrong howevet it says to me you could have a bias for some reason or another. For example this years defense is smaller and faster like his first defense this is one reasin I think people are comparing  them. Also we are throwing more with a better overall group of recivers. Like his first year. Matbe thats why they feel that way. Who knows. 

I said all that was needed to be said. I articulated it how I wanted. Go shake your Pom poms to someone else rah rah. 

[Darth Texas]

Need to give a lot of props to Huntsville. I thought we would struggle with their run game, but grossly underestimated how good they actually are. My assessment of Huntsville after Cedar Park was they're really fast but blocking and tackling are far below the standard Southern established. I think I was right about that three weeks ago, but both improved very, very much since Cedar Park. I'm convinced that Huntsville is better than they were in the last two years, and are a legit danger to everyone in Region 3. 

I was extremely pleased with PNG's turnaround in the 2nd half, and I think the defense learned vital lessons about how to deal with such a competent, athletic offense. But, I hope we look at this as a close win. The most important play of the game was the missed field goal. Some could argue that Hville should have gone for it on 4th and 1, but I think going for the FG was the right decision. You have a chance to maybe get stuffed on 4th and give momentum back to PNG, or you have a chance to get 3 points and make it where even if PNG scored 14 unanswered they would have only tied the game. So, Moebes was right to take the field goal. But, with the missed field goal, it changed the entire schedule for Hville when PNG got to 24. Instead of being tied, they were playing from behind. Then, when we scored another TD they weren't simply down by 7, they were down by 10 (actually down by 11, but I'm discounting the safety for this analysis). Their margin of error got smaller, real fast. My point is, PNG should think of this game as we won by a field goal (second year in a row that this game came down largely to a missed field goal). HVille could have been so much more patient for a lot longer in the game with those three points on the board. 

This game was also a testament to the importance of keeping the ball out of your opponent's hands. PNG dominated time of possession in the 2nd half, especially in the 3rd quarter.  We held the ball for long drives, played with patience, and limited their opportunities. In the end, the whole second half turned on about four or five total plays where we stuffed them or got a sack. If we had given them more opportunities, who knows what would have happened?  In other words, our defensive success in the 2nd half had as much to do with our adjustments as it did with not giving them more plays. And, Hville was figuring it out -- That TD at the end wasn't a fluke. They hadn't tried that misdirect the whole 2nd half. The problem with that play is our whole defense has to commit to charging the running lane to stop the play if they run to the far side -- When they reverse the field, we don't have anyone there. If they had more chances to try that, it's a different ball game. 

Summary: Ecstatic with PNG's defense, play calling, and overall level of play. But after last week I consider Huntsville an extremely reasonable contender for regional champion. They are MUCH better than last year. If it works out that PNG and Huntsville meet in the playoffs it's a 50/50 game and Hville has all the weapons to be terrifying. The only big weakness I see right now is the Huntsville tackling. I'm still not sure how much of our run success was due to us being good or Hville still needing work in the tackling game. If that improves, watch out. Good game, Hornets. 

[prepballfan]

3 hours ago, chief1987 said:

I said all that was needed to be said. I articulated it how I wanted. Go shake your Pom poms to someone else rah rah. 

I will know problem. Just after you get some for you.