West Orange-Stark (6) @ Nederland (14) - FINAL

[spidersal]

It was a very good win for the Bulldogs I was surprised but happy

I thought the running game was a little better than last week and much more disciplined than WOS. The OL was fair and the punter did a good job

The offensive negative is absolutely no passing game. The receivers can’t catch a ball

Defensively, they held WOS to 6 mainly thanks to penalties for a very undisciplined team. The Bulldogs tackling was not good at all. Way too many missed tackles, but they played hard

The problem I see, is if they do not improve a bunch on both sides of the ball, I don’t see them beating Dayton, Montgomery, Huntsville, or PNG. They should have a good chance vs Splendora and West Fork and may have a chance vs Lake Creek

I will say that the new coaching staff is doing a fantastic job and the Dogs are young this year, so we should see a lot of improvement 

[dj]

46 minutes ago, navydawg31 said:

That’s what I saw watching live…. That falls straight in WOS coaching staff. 
 

what I saw watching tonight is Nederland out coached WOS by MILES. Nederland went 2-0 in this series against WOS. You don’t see that happen very often. 

Thank you !! I'm glad you see that.ik, ppl thought it would be a turnaround year.but, it want happen with this staff. U have to call a spade a spade. I'm just the area alone w.o is one of the worse coached team in the area.unless the kids do something on there on.its no way they will win district!! Silsbee and HF are better coached teams. I watched HF last week against LCM and the position there coaching staff put that young QB in.i applaud them for that.and silsbee is doing the same thing with there Yung QB. Ppl don't realize w.o has a oline man calling plays.im still trying to figure it out.ik, everyone trust to be positive but, something weren't meant to be.and this was a bad experience.and the kids are suffering bcz of it.

[dj]

1 hour ago, grayhair777 said:

Just because you’re losing your 🤣

No, trust and believe from day one in didn't believe in this staff.and I still don't!! And I promise you I'm not the only one.if you only knew what goes on here!!  I'm not mad bcz, they lost but, ur not putting kids in position to at least play at the next level or at least get looked at.it want happen unless changes are made.nederland played well enough to win . but there not there yet either.but, at least there coaching staff gives them a chance.w.o has no chance to go far.they can beat team with less talent.but, the days when they could line up and play against anyone is gone unless changes are made.once again something aren't a gud fit.

 

 

[Brubaker]

It was great to hear from the Village “not so smart person” tonight, 2-8???

[WOSdrummer99]

With 13 coaches on the sideline and at least 1 in the box. Smh. Blame it on a 4 day work week.

Anyone remember the day 1 interview...

"We talked about this morning about earning it. You know, last year, you know, we got close. You know, we made a big step, you know, winning nine games and but around here, you know, ain't nobody going to give it to us. We got to earn it. And that was kind of our our calling card for the whole offseason is earning it and putting in the work and that's what we're going to live on this year. We got to earn it. We got to earn that position to get where we need to be and where we want to be."

"What makes West Orange-Stark special? Our rich tradition of the Mustang Way." - West Orange-Stark head coach Hiawatha Hickman 

Waaaaay too far from the Mustang Way.

DCTF... @Matthew328 and Tepper we love u guys and Pickle too. But stop putting us in the rankings please. Remember what u saw against PNG to drop us out 3 years ago. Its still happening. Nothing has gotten better.

Why on earth would u run in a play if u dont know the ruling on the field yet. But we send our formation to the line just in time to get out of the way of the ref marching us back. Only to run the same play from 3rd and 20 instead of 3rd and 5. Then we pick up 7 yards and punt. Not to mention the opposing defense sees exactly what we show and makes adjustments between the hash marks quicker that we do.

Our "Football IQ" has diminished. Look no furthur than this QB glitch towards the end. Somebody needs to be running stands all night long. And im not talking about players. The kids have given 112% for 4 years.

[AggiesAreWe]

I can remember a Silsbee QB mistakenly taking a knee instead of spiking the ball at WO-S that cost the Tigers a win. Silsbee had the ball at the Mustang 1 yard line with the clock winding down, score tied 7-7, and instead of spiking the ball, the young man took a knee and time expired due to Silsbee not having in timeouts left. WO-S ended up winning the game in OT, 14-7. That was in 2008.

I know for a fact the Silsbee coaching staff was telling the QB to spike it. Was quite clear from our broadcast booth. Saw several giving the signal to do so. QB just got confused. It happens.

I don't know that the QB was confused in this case but it's very possible. I just don't think you can automatically blame the coaches on that situation.

Sounds like there are other things that cost WO-S this game, not just the kneel down.

[tvc184]

34 minutes ago, AggiesAreWe said:

I can remember a Silsbee QB mistakenly taking a knee instead of spiking the ball at WO-S that cost the Tigers a win. Silsbee had the ball at the Mustang 1 yard line with the clock winding down, score tied 7-7, and instead of spiking the ball, the young man took a knee and time expired due to Silsbee not having in timeouts left. WO-S ended up winning the game in OT, 14-7. That was in 2008.

I know for a fact the Silsbee coaching staff was telling the QB to spike it. Was quite clear from our broadcast booth. Saw several giving the signal to do so. QB just got confused. It happens.

I don't know that the QB was confused in this case but it's very possible. I just don't think you can automatically blame the coaches on that situation.

Sounds like there are other things that cost WO-S this game, not just the kneel down.

I brought that up to a guy that I was sitting with tonight when it happened, 

If I remember correctly, WOS had not lost a district game or championship since dropping down. That game would have been WOS first district loss and given Silsbee the championship.

But…. maybe my memory is fading, especially since I don’t follow either team. 

[WOSdrummer99]

59 minutes ago, AggiesAreWe said:

Sounds like there are other things that cost WO-S this game, not just the kneel down.

Many. You've seen these same mistakes on the sidelines in person too. Difference is Silsbee staff would have worked to make sure it wasnt a continual problem. Not saying stop clock has been a problem for us in past. But many things continue to be. I hope u still see them as a district champion? I wish i had a new magic crystal ball. This old thing from 1986... that was the year

[Matthew328]

I dont know what happened most of the game but I watched the last play and the QB just had a brain fart...poor kid was probably yelling kill or spike and his brain just defaulted to taking a knee....felt really bad for him 

[1970]

WOS team reminded me of last season's team, and the game reminded me of last season's game at WOS. The refs reminded me of the refs for last season's game also, for some reason.  Just my opinion, but it matches up pretty well with the previous posts up above, WOS is talented but lack some fundamentals, on the o-line and tackling.  And I ain't casting stones at the WOS QB at all, he played a good hard game and brought the team down there for a last second chance to score, and just got caught up in the moment as the clock was ticking down, the crowd roar, etc. He knew immediately and tried to get another snap to spike the ball but it was too late.  Like someone already said, it happens. Another good win for Ned; I was impressed with the RB and the defense. 

[ladybug33]

I'm just SMH! I support the team, but this is getting ridiculous.

[AggiesAreWe]

7 hours ago, tvc184 said:

I brought that up to a guy that I was sitting with tonight when it happened, 

If I remember correctly, WOS had not lost a district game or championship since dropping down. That game would have been WOS first district loss and given Silsbee the championship.

But…. maybe my memory is fading, especially since I don’t follow either team. 

All correct.

Silsbee did stop WO-S district win streak the next season (2009) and won the DC.

[navydawg31]

Just now, AggiesAreWe said:

All correct.

Silsbee did stop WO-S district win streak the next season (2009) and won the DC.

Jeremy Johnson?

[AggiesAreWe]

1 minute ago, navydawg31 said:

Jeremy Johnson?

Yes.

[navydawg31]

A win last night can really set the foundation for the Bulldogs season and catapult  their confidence. 2 hard fought wins. Safe to say they are battle tested early on this season… 

[NDNWarrior]

Good job Bulldogs! I agree with the “battle-tested” comment. Regroup and get ready for next week. 

[GoBigBlue1997]

My takeaways from last nights game:

Nederland definitely took a step forward from the previous week’s performance.  That’s all you can really ask for at this stage in the season.  Keep improving each week and by the time district and the games that really matter come around, you are playing really good football.

Nederland outplayed WOS for three quarters and then we started playing not to lose.  Play calling became ultra conservative and really put the stress on our defense.  I get it and I’m not questioning the coaching staff, but that can invite unnecessary trouble.

Nederland played a cleaner game, made plays when they had to, and mastered the “bend but don’t break” defense.

WOS didn’t make the plays when they needed to and discipline on both sides cost the mustangs a lot of yards.  WOS cleans that up and they execute just a little better and they are going to be fine.  
 

Great early test for both teams and onwards and upwards from here.

[Mballler#1]

There are situations in football that usually never happen too much such as Spiking the ball and kneeling the ball so it isn’t coached that much but all phases of football should be practiced just in case that situation with Wo-s qb was very unfortunate but teams are usually not put in that in that spot it was a mental lapse with no time outs and they are rushing to get to the line of scrimmage you can go through 4yrs of football and never see situations like that so many teams may not think about that even though they should I don’t fault the Quarerback coaching staff needs to tighten up and be prepared for anything and teach all phases of the game.

[WOSdrummer99]

3 hours ago, ladybug33 said:

I'm just SMH! I support the team, but this is getting ridiculous.

#ChapTer40

Edited 19 minutes ago by WOSdrummer99

[WOSdrummer99]

4 minutes ago, Mballler#1 said:

There are situations in football that usually never happen too much such as Spiking the ball and kneeling the ball so it isn’t coached that much but all phases of football should be practiced just in case that situation with Wo-s qb was very unfortunate but teams are usually not put in that in that spot it was a mental lapse with no time outs and they are rushing to get to the line of scrimmage you can go through 4yrs of football and never see situations like that so many teams may no think about that even though they should I don’t fault the Quarer back coaching staff needs to tighten up and be prepared for anything.

I agree. Unfortunately the scenario needs to be practiced because we have been in this situation many times. A real QB coach is needed... how about one of the best we ever had here? That mid 90s class had some born leaders. Don't believe me? Ask the new school board President from co 96. I believe this is strategic to the future of our program as well.

#EArnit

Come home and help right the ship. You'd be like royalty here in the Fruit. Imagine wearing that blue and silver crown everywhere u go. With all the love and respect that comes with it. These guys have no idea what they could've had here with the traditions that were installed before they arrived

[dogbite]

14 hours ago, spidersal said:

It was a very good win for the Bulldogs I was surprised but happy

I thought the running game was a little better than last week and much more disciplined than WOS. The OL was fair and the punter did a good job

The offensive negative is absolutely no passing game. The receivers can’t catch a ball

Defensively, they held WOS to 6 mainly thanks to penalties for a very undisciplined team. The Bulldogs tackling was not good at all. Way too many missed tackles, but they played hard

The problem I see, is if they do not improve a bunch on both sides of the ball, I don’t see them beating Dayton, Montgomery, Huntsville, or PNG. They should have a good chance vs Splendora and West Fork and may have a chance vs Lake Creek

I will say that the new coaching staff is doing a fantastic job and the Dogs are young this year, so we should see a lot of improvement 

That’s surprising, I believe you had the same predictions for district last year too.  Great insight 🤦🏻