China students….Really Trump🤦🏼‍♂️

[5GallonBucket]

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all those students have been vetted by ccp…only students who have the right connections in the ccp and will do what they want….(intelligence) are getting to come.

STUPID

 

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57 minutes ago, 5GallonBucket said:

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all those students have been vetted by ccp…only students who have the right connections in the ccp and will do what they want….(intelligence) are getting to come.

STUPID

 

yup

[AggiesAreWe]

Not sure how the Trump camp can think this is a good idea. SMH 

[OlDawg]

Bad move. IP theft from the Chinese has been rampant. They’ve been caught stealing research from MD Anderson for years, and again just days ago.

2019 caught stealing IP from MD Anderson

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2 Days ago caught stealing IP from MD Anderson

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[OlDawg]

26 minutes ago, AggiesAreWe said:

Not sure how the Trump camp can think this is a good idea. SMH 

It’s all about the Deal, Deal. If not that, it’s Nobel. I’m still miffed about Intel.

How would people feel about President AOC or Mamdani taking a large ownership stake in United Healthcare? He’s just opened the door, and made it a lot easier and acceptable.

That’s why people should always think about the worst that could happen. Not just right now.

[baddog]

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all those students have been vetted by ccp…only students who have the right connections in the ccp and will do what they want….(intelligence) are getting to come.

STUPID

 

Bad call, I agree

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all those students have been vetted by ccp…only students who have the right connections in the ccp and will do what they want….(intelligence) are getting to come.

STUPID

 

Let’s assume arguendo that this is correct. They are here to spy and have been vetted for such.

According to the article there are already 270,000 CCP students in the US. Let’s go with the intelligence gathering numbers. Some students may just be well connected and are actually here to learn with no intelligence gathering assignment.

So being conservative we can put the current number of spies acting as students at 150,000. That leaves 120,000 actual students currently in the country.

I am thinking that spies are not going to be in Groves trying to find out the current prices of Blue Bell ice cream at HEB. More likely they are going to be in cities with perhaps technology jobs, government contracts or obviously research universities since they are students. 

Cities the size of Kountze or Nederland are going to have research universities or any likely government contracts. Restricting this intelligence gathering to cites with over 100,000 people (like Beaumont), the CCP students have 346 US cities to choose from.

Under our current situation with only slightly over half of the CCP students acting as spies, each of those cities already has over 400 spies. So Beaumont, TX has 400 Chinese spies masquerading as students. If all of the 270,000 students are spies as you suggest, we currently have almost 800 CCP spies in every city in the US with over 100,000 people.

So under your scenario, Beaumont could currently have about 800 CCP spies but it could balloon to over 1,000 if Trump strikes a deal.

Really?

If the current 270,000 trained spies are getting the intelligence……. 
 

EDIT: Tpyo

[Reagan]

I don't think any MAGA would agree with this.  I do trust Trump.  So, is this a ploy of some sort?  Who knows.  But if this is real, I would suggest contacting your Congressman and Senators about this.  

The bottom line, if true, is that any student from China is required to spy when in the US.  I don't think anyone can reasonably doubt this!

[baddog]

Just a Google search. 600,000 students seems like a lot.

Chinese universities are rapidly improving in global rankings due to massive government investment and research output, while U.S. universities remain strong but are improving at a slower pace. Key differences include the heavily standardized, high-pressure Chinese admission system versus a more holistic U.S. approach, the greater government control in China's education system compared to U.S. university autonomy, and lower tuition costs and living expenses in China. 

 

Key Differences

• Admissions:

  • China: Admissions are dominated by the high-stakes, nationwide 
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    , which students cram for extensively and which heavily influences their future prospects. 
     
  • U.S.: U.S. universities use a more holistic approach, considering grades, essays, extracurriculars, and other factors for admission. 
     
• Government Influence:

  • China: The government heavily influences higher education and research through initiatives and directives. 
     
  • U.S.: U.S. universities have greater autonomy, though they are overseen by government-appointed accrediting agencies and have governing boards. 
     
• Cost:

  • China: Tuition and living costs, including food and dorms, are significantly lower than in the U.S. 
     
  • U.S.: Public and private universities in the U.S. typically have much higher tuition and living expenses. 
     
• Curriculum and Focus:

  • China: The curriculum is often focused on deeper learning in a narrower set of subjects, with less emphasis on optional courses. 
     
  • U.S.: There is a greater emphasis on creativity and a broader, more flexible curriculum, often with a wide range of optional courses. 
     
• Campus Environment:

  • China: Campuses often have a more controlled environment, with gates and walls, and the academic atmosphere can be more structured. 
     
  • U.S.: Campuses are generally more open and diverse, and the culture emphasizes meritocracy and cultural inclusivity. 
     

Recent Trends

• Rising Global Reputation:

  Chinese universities have seen a dramatic rise in global rankings due to focused government investment in scientific research, leading to higher research productivity. 

   
• Quality of Education:

  While U.S. universities continue to improve, they are doing so at a slower pace than many Asian universities, particularly in China. 

   
• International Recognition:

  Chinese academic qualifications are increasingly recognized internationally, with many universities offering programs taught in English to attract international students

[5GallonBucket]

I don’t trust china period.

not saying all 600k are spies but to say there is none…well that s just foolishness.