Texas GOP's New Congressional Map Would Create 5 New Seats!

[baddog]

But, but

[Big girl]

21 hours ago, baddog said:

Thanks for recognizing that it is illegal. Inferior people lose arguments. The smug left is always condescending. I was merely pointing that out. Your interpretation is expected.

 

44 minutes ago, DCT said:

Republicans complain about Texas Democrats fleeing yet just days ago, they themselves fled DC to avoid voting on the Epstein files. Why? To protect a convicted Felon sitting in the Oval Office. One side dodges accountability.  The other fights for democracy.  That’s the real Hypocrisy!

 

 I agree with the author.

Me, too.

[Big girl]

On 8/4/2025 at 1:44 AM, Reagan said:

Texas State Dems to FLEE to stop Republicans from redistricting!  Curious, though, why did they run to Illinois?  

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Good for them.

[Big girl]

21 hours ago, UT alum said:

I know you trying to dig at Big Girl, but you’re calling your own self out. 

He sure is.

[thetragichippy]

1 hour ago, DCT said:

they themselves fled DC to avoid voting on the Epstein files. Why?

Surely you can see the difference........if you can't then you should read up on Congress having a recess versus job abandonment.....

[thetragichippy]

1 hour ago, Big girl said:

Good for them.

Good for them.....They are getting fined $500 a day 

What is also good for them, is Abbott can call a special session after special session......lets see how long they can afford to not do their job.

It also included the items below that now are put on hold because Democrats are mad they don't have the votes to change anything......Elections have consequences...... 

FLOOD WARNING SYSTEMS: Legislation to improve early warning systems and other preparedness infrastructure in flood-prone areas throughout Texas.

FLOOD EMERGENCY COMMUNICATIONS: Legislation to strengthen emergency communications and other response infrastructure in flood-prone areas throughout Texas.

RELIEF FUNDING FOR HILL COUNTRY FLOODS: Legislation to provide relief funding for response to and recovery from the storms which began in early July 2025, including local match funding for jurisdictions eligible for FEMA public assistance.

NATURAL DISASTER PREPARATION & RECOVERY: Legislation to evaluate and streamline rules and regulations to speed preparedness for and recovery from natural disasters.

ELIMINATE STAAR TEST: Legislation to eliminate the STAAR test and replace it with effective tools to assess student progress and ensure school district accountability.

CUT PROPERTY TAXES: Legislation reducing the property tax burden on Texans and legislation imposing spending limits on entities authorized to impose property taxes.

PROTECT CHILDREN FROM THC: Legislation making it a crime to provide hemp-derived products to children under 21 years of age.

REGULATE HEMP-DERIVED PRODUCTS : Legislation to comprehensively regulate hemp-derived products, including limiting potency, restricting synthetically modified compounds, and establishing enforcement mechanisms, all without banning a lawful agricultural commodity.

PROTECT UNBORN CHILDREN: Legislation further protecting unborn children and their mothers from the harm of abortion.

BAN TAXPAYER-FUNDED LOBBYING: Legislation prohibiting taxpayer-funded lobbying, including the use of tax dollars to hire lobbyists and payment of tax dollars to associations that lobby the Legislature.

PROTECT HUMAN TRAFFICKING VICTIMS: Legislation, similar to Senate Bill No. 1278 from the 89th Legislature, Regular Session, that protects victims of human trafficking from criminal liability for non-violent acts closely tied to their own victimization.

POLICE PERSONNEL RECORDS: Legislation that protects law enforcement officers from public disclosure of unsubstantiated complaints in personnel files.

PROTECT WOMEN’S SPACES: Legislation protecting women’s privacy in sex-segregated spaces.

ATTORNEY GENERAL ELECTION POWERS: Legislation proposing a constitutional amendment allowing the Attorney General to prosecute state election crimes.

REDISTRICTING: Legislation that provides a revised congressional redistricting plan in light of constitutional concerns raised by the U.S. Department of Justice.

TITLE THEFT & DEED FRAUD: Legislation, similar to Senate Bill No. 648 from the 89th Legislature, Regular Session, that provides strengthened protections against title theft and deed fraud.

WATER PROJECT INCENTIVES: Legislation, similar to Senate Bill No. 1253 from the 89th Legislature, Regular Session, that authorizes political subdivisions to reduce impact fees for builders who include water conservation and efficiency measures.

STATE JUDICIAL DEPARTMENT: Legislation, similar to Senate Bill No. 2878 from the 89th Legislature, Regular Session, relating to the operation and administration of the Judicial Department of state government.

 

[UT alum]

11 hours ago, Reagan said:

We just play by the rules the Dems have laid out.   I always say -- just tell me what the rules are.  Then when I beat you at the game then you can't say anything because I'm playing by the rules you set up.  In this case it's setting districts that helps the GOP.  Just like the Dems have done in the past.  Just like the Dems do in California, Illinois, New York, etc, etc!  

How you figure Democrats set the rules? They are constitutionally mandated and have been used since Texas became a state. You need to clear your head of all that partisan crap and learn to think for yourself. I don’t deny my party affiliation, but I still practice critical thinking in my decision processes. Sounds like junior high.

[UT alum]

3 minutes ago, thetragichippy said:

Good for them.....They are getting fined $500 a day 

What is also good for them, is Abbott can call a special session after special session......lets see how long they can afford to not do their job.

It also included the items below that now are put on hold because Democrats are mad they don't have the votes to change anything......Elections have consequences...... 

FLOOD WARNING SYSTEMS: Legislation to improve early warning systems and other preparedness infrastructure in flood-prone areas throughout Texas.

FLOOD EMERGENCY COMMUNICATIONS: Legislation to strengthen emergency communications and other response infrastructure in flood-prone areas throughout Texas.

RELIEF FUNDING FOR HILL COUNTRY FLOODS: Legislation to provide relief funding for response to and recovery from the storms which began in early July 2025, including local match funding for jurisdictions eligible for FEMA public assistance.

NATURAL DISASTER PREPARATION & RECOVERY: Legislation to evaluate and streamline rules and regulations to speed preparedness for and recovery from natural disasters.

ELIMINATE STAAR TEST: Legislation to eliminate the STAAR test and replace it with effective tools to assess student progress and ensure school district accountability.

CUT PROPERTY TAXES: Legislation reducing the property tax burden on Texans and legislation imposing spending limits on entities authorized to impose property taxes.

PROTECT CHILDREN FROM THC: Legislation making it a crime to provide hemp-derived products to children under 21 years of age.

REGULATE HEMP-DERIVED PRODUCTS : Legislation to comprehensively regulate hemp-derived products, including limiting potency, restricting synthetically modified compounds, and establishing enforcement mechanisms, all without banning a lawful agricultural commodity.

PROTECT UNBORN CHILDREN: Legislation further protecting unborn children and their mothers from the harm of abortion.

BAN TAXPAYER-FUNDED LOBBYING: Legislation prohibiting taxpayer-funded lobbying, including the use of tax dollars to hire lobbyists and payment of tax dollars to associations that lobby the Legislature.

PROTECT HUMAN TRAFFICKING VICTIMS: Legislation, similar to Senate Bill No. 1278 from the 89th Legislature, Regular Session, that protects victims of human trafficking from criminal liability for non-violent acts closely tied to their own victimization.

POLICE PERSONNEL RECORDS: Legislation that protects law enforcement officers from public disclosure of unsubstantiated complaints in personnel files.

PROTECT WOMEN’S SPACES: Legislation protecting women’s privacy in sex-segregated spaces.

ATTORNEY GENERAL ELECTION POWERS: Legislation proposing a constitutional amendment allowing the Attorney General to prosecute state election crimes.

REDISTRICTING: Legislation that provides a revised congressional redistricting plan in light of constitutional concerns raised by the U.S. Department of Justice.

TITLE THEFT & DEED FRAUD: Legislation, similar to Senate Bill No. 648 from the 89th Legislature, Regular Session, that provides strengthened protections against title theft and deed fraud.

WATER PROJECT INCENTIVES: Legislation, similar to Senate Bill No. 1253 from the 89th Legislature, Regular Session, that authorizes political subdivisions to reduce impact fees for builders who include water conservation and efficiency measures.

STATE JUDICIAL DEPARTMENT: Legislation, similar to Senate Bill No. 2878 from the 89th Legislature, Regular Session, relating to the operation and administration of the Judicial Department of state government.

 

You don’t think the decision to do redistricting first was political? Abbott could have taken care of Texans first, then Trump. But no. Abbott knew the quorum bust would happen, so do redistricting first and blame Dems for ignoring Texans when they break the quorum. Texans should have been put first.

[UT alum]

4 hours ago, AggiesAreWe said:

Redistricting should ALWAYS be about the numbers and not political gain or loss.

When the population landscapes change, that is time to redistrict. That's warranted.

Any other reason for redistricting is simply to gain a political advantage.

Neither side should do it.

I will say, the Dems that have fled to break quorum should be replaced. Immediately! 

All’s fair in love and war. The Republicans started a war.

Civil disobedience has its place in a democratic society. The price to pay is borne by the practitioners. Their respective voters should decide the penalty/reward for that disobedience. Not the governor, legislature, or courts.

[thetragichippy]

30 minutes ago, UT alum said:

You don’t think the decision to do redistricting first was political? Abbott could have taken care of Texans first, then Trump. But no. Abbott knew the quorum bust would happen, so do redistricting first and blame Dems for ignoring Texans when they break the quorum. Texans should have been put first.

Does not matter what it as. Abbott is not breaking any rules.

Democrats ARE breaking rules and not doing their jobs. 

[UT alum]

Just now, thetragichippy said:

Does not matter what it as. Abbott is not breaking any rules.

Democrats ARE breaking rules and not doing their jobs. 

See my reply to Aggies regarding civil disobedience.

[thetragichippy]

32 minutes ago, UT alum said:

You don’t think the decision to do redistricting first was political? Abbott could have taken care of Texans first, then Trump. But no. Abbott knew the quorum bust would happen, so do redistricting first and blame Dems for ignoring Texans when they break the quorum. Texans should have been put first.

Democrats cannot stop the redistricting.....they don't have the votes and there are no rules that Democrats can use.  Abbott is going to continue to call a special session after special session.......sometimes you have to recognize defeat, and live to fight another day....at $500.00 a day, how much money you willing to spend and still not win? 

[thetragichippy]

1 minute ago, UT alum said:

See my reply to Aggies regarding civil disobedience.

No ones about the law unless it's something you agree with huh? 

I'm fine with them spending $500 a day and still losing......

[LumRaiderFan]

8 minutes ago, thetragichippy said:

No ones about the law unless it's something you agree with huh? 

I'm fine with them spending $500 a day and still losing......

Exactly right, that’s why debating him is an exercise in futility.

[UT alum]

9 minutes ago, thetragichippy said:

No ones about the law unless it's something you agree with huh? 

I'm fine with them spending $500 a day and still losing......

You obviously don’t know what civil disobedience is. Sweet.

[UT alum]

1 minute ago, LumRaiderFan said:

Exactly right, that’s why debating him is an exercise in futility.

You don’t know what civil disobedience is, either. Talk about exercise in futility!

[LumRaiderFan]

6 minutes ago, UT alum said:

You don’t know what civil disobedience is, either. Talk about exercise in futility!

I know I can’t walk away from my job just because things aren’t going my way.

[AggiesAreWe]

1 hour ago, UT alum said:

All’s fair in love and war. The Republicans started a war.

Civil disobedience has its place in a democratic society. The price to pay is borne by the practitioners. Their respective voters should decide the penalty/reward for that disobedience. Not the governor, legislature, or courts.

I get that.

But if Reps (both sides) were to do this all the time without any immediate repercussions, then how can legislature work fluidly?

I can certainly understand voting someone out because they no longer rep your beliefs and values. But I don't need to vote someone out if they don't show up for work. That should be handled accordingly and immediately.

Just my opinion. Would feel this way if the sides were reversed.

[thetragichippy]

1 hour ago, UT alum said:

You obviously don’t know what civil disobedience is. Sweet.

Actually I do.........I even refreshed myself and read this

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So, it is the refusal to obey the demands or commands of a government or occupying power, without resorting to violence or active measures of opposition; its usual purpose is to force 

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 from the government or occupying power. 

So in this case, you think it is ok for the Government to oppose the Government because one side can't get their way?

Are you going to support Trump when he stays in office a 3rd term and exercises his civil disobedience? 

The "Government"  needs to play within the rules or resign.....

 

[UT alum]

14 minutes ago, AggiesAreWe said:

I get that.

But if Reps (both sides) were to do this all the time without any immediate repercussions, then how can legislature work fluidly?

I can certainly understand voting someone out because they no longer rep your beliefs and values. But I don't need to vote someone out if they don't show up for work. That should be handled accordingly and immediately.

Just my opinion. Would feel this way if the sides were reversed.

Who fires them for not showing up? The voter or the governor? It’s not done regularly because it is an extreme measure. Civil disobedience entails going against the law, but in a nonviolent manner. The sit-ins across the south in the 50’s and 60’s are a prime example.

[UT alum]

14 minutes ago, thetragichippy said:

Actually I do.........I even refreshed myself and read this

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 from the government or occupying power. 

So in this case, you think it is ok for the Government to oppose the Government because one side can't get their way?

Are you going to support Trump when he stays in office a 3rd term and exercises his civil disobedience? 

The "Government"  needs to play within the rules or resign.....

 

I’ll never support Trump. If he gets a third term without a constitutional amendment I’m gone. This won’t be The United States of America any more. 
“Concessions from an occupying power”.  The republicans in the Texas Lege are ruling like occupiers. Quorum rules exist for more than one reason.

[Reagan]

FBI Director Kash Patel Tapped to Help Texas Track Down and ARREST Fugitive Democrat Lawmakers Who Fled State to Block Redistricting Vote!

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11 minutes ago, UT alum said:

I’ll never support Trump. If he gets a third term without a constitutional amendment I’m gone. This won’t be The United States of America any more. 
“Concessions from an occupying power”.  The republicans in the Texas Lege are ruling like occupiers. Quorum rules exist for more than one reason.

Another "I'm gone" lol

[AggiesAreWe]

13 minutes ago, UT alum said:

Who fires them for not showing up? The voter or the governor? It’s not done regularly because it is an extreme measure. Civil disobedience entails going against the law, but in a nonviolent manner. The sit-ins across the south in the 50’s and 60’s are a prime example.

I know all about civil disobedience.

I just don't see this as the same.

I also do not think redistricting should be on this bill.

That should be on a separate bill all on it's own or not even put on a bill. Let the voters decide.