AUSTIN SMITHEY NAMED NEW AD/HFC AT WARREN

[whs15]

On 6/1/2021 at 2:45 PM, 5GallonBucket said:

 

[whs15]

On 6/1/2021 at 2:45 PM, 5GallonBucket said:

[whs15]

On 6/1/2021 at 2:45 PM, 5GallonBucket said:

8 plus kids that’s an odd number to throw out.

I understand finding someone else due to a lack of wins but, When has the “job gotten done” on all fronts at Warren been done before.....most schools don’t get the job done at all sports.

I guess jacks getting the girls to playoffs wasn’t getting the job done. If wins really do matter......

Please show me the  history.

I do hope the best for Warren but givin this late in the season doesn’t look good.

usually this type of move would ve happened after the season so they could start looking for someone...so why all of sudden now....that doesn’t raise a red flag to some of you.....

If she had the best interest in the program and knew what the current AD s record was over the past 6years this would ve been done a whole lot sooner.  

if you want your wins to improve...parents have to do there part....they have to spend more time with their kids to instill in them work ethic from an early age.  Kids should want to spend there time working and improving skills whenever time is available......A coach can only do so much with the time he has and what’s out there. 
and I’m talking in general here not just with this situation specifically.

8 is a pretty even number if you ask me... 😂 

 

Winning at all sports hasn’t been done in Warren in a very long time. Buckner had 6 years to turn it around and didn’t. So it’s time for someone else to be brought in and try their hand in it. 
 

The leave being late in the season was Buckner’s decision. He chose to leave. Now the reason why he chose to leave this late is unknown to the public. Why not attend the next board meeting and ask your book of questions? The guys and gal will listen to you, I promise you that. 
 

Lastly I do agree, the cultural winning shift has to start with the parents and youth leagues. They too have to be help accountable. 

[5GallonBucket]

9 hours ago, 5GallonBucket said:

 

It starts at home.....1st

Kids have to be taught to work hard with consistency and be diligent.  If you want to have success put in the work daily. 
 

2nd: youth program (outside of school) has to have strong leaders (no bending the rules for friends or friends’ kids)

3rd parents stop talking about coaches decisions in front of kids whether it be lil league or yuk.

 

 

Meant UIL

[whsalum]

I don’t know the Superintendent or the AD that’s leaving. I do know half of the board who are the kinda people who you would want working for your kids whether it was youth sports or checkers. Warren has had some excellent AD/HC over the years that were average on the record books at Warren . One went to the staff at WOS I believe as the QB coach and helped the Mustangs win a State title or two. Another was dismissed and within a few days was on a staff in the NFL. There are more over the years who didn’t win at Warren. All these guys could coach. I haven’t been to many Warren athletic events over the last few years but I gotta say last year I went to check out a Varsity Basketball game. I was amazed to see the AD on the bench as an assistant coach . Maybe the AD got tired of wearing that hat . I don’t think you can blame Warrens lackluster record the last 6 years on the AD and I don’t think the school board sits around a coffee shop conspiring to run off a current or past coach. I think the parents and kids at Warren aren’t willing to put in the work in takes to be successful year in and year out. Until they decide to do that work Nick Sabin or Dabo Swinney couldn’t win there. 

[purpleeagle]

Whsalum, you are absolutely right. They were losers when Barbary was coaching there. He seems to be doing good at Jasper.

[purpleeagle]

You are right, Darrel and Brian are at Jasper. However, the kids have to want to put in the extra work. Newton graduates this Friday and the kids that will be coming back next year will be in the weight room next week just as they have been doing since the end of football this year.

Newton competes in powerlifting every year and have several coaches coaching powerlifting. Does Warren have a powerlifting program?  Powerlifting is required for all football players and a record is kept on the progress of each player. 
Powerlifting and success go hand in hand when all the kids buy into it.

[PdaddyBball]

When do interviews start?

[whsalum]

It may be time for Warren to look at the Athletic programs at Central, Central Heights and Lufkin Hudson. An AD/ Head Basketball or Baseball coach may make for a more successful athletic program overall. 

[waltersobchak]

7 hours ago, whsalum said:

It may be time for Warren to look at the Athletic programs at Central, Central Heights and Lufkin Hudson. An AD/ Head Basketball or Baseball coach may make for a more successful athletic program overall. 

idk if central is the one to model your program after but all of those programs are located close to larger cities like nac or lufkin. the two more successful programs definitely have the benefit of transfers from the larger programs in the area

[Reagan]

7 hours ago, whsalum said:

It may be time for Warren to look at the Athletic programs at Central, Central Heights and Lufkin Hudson. An AD/ Head Basketball or Baseball coach may make for a more successful athletic program overall. 

What is your thought behind this statement?

[Cherokee88]

Warren does have a very nice basketball facility, I would think with an AD title they could attract a solid coach. 

[Go-rilla]

Stop acting like this is going to kill your season!

[whsalum]

3 hours ago, Reagan said:

What is your thought behind this statement?

I think if Warren would consider giving the AD job to a top notch basketball or baseball coach the overall success of the athletic programs could improve. I have seen Warren field excellent baseball and softball teams in the not so distant past. They also put some solid basketball teams on the hardwood a few years back under Leland Hand and Chris Carter. I’m just throwing a suggestion out there. Everyone always says hire a AD/HC in football and it may be time to rethink those hires.

[whsalum]

3 hours ago, 88Warrior said:

I’ll have to disagree with you on this one…I know you’re a big basketball guy…but despite historically not being a good football program it’s still what brings the WISD communities together….even though baseball and basketball have been much more successful over the years…just my opinion though…

I certainly respect your opinion but we’ll have to agree to disagree on this one. For a 3A school Warrens football crowds are marginal at best. With our demographics , lack of industry and no public housing we’re going to have a hard time attracting the numbers of athletes it takes to be successful in football at the 3A level. Just by numbers alone it doesn’t take as many athletes to compete in basketball and baseball.  I wish Warren nothing but the best in their search for a new AD/HC in football by I honestly don’t think the lack of coaching abilities has been the reason for our dismal showing on the field. 

[scat_trap]

On 6/3/2021 at 4:20 AM, purpleeagle said:

Whsalum, you are absolutely right. They were losers when Barbary was coaching there. He seems to be doing good at Jasper.

That Barbay is the receivers coach at Central Michigan.

[scat_trap]

On 6/3/2021 at 10:10 AM, purpleeagle said:

You are right, Darrel and Brian are at Jasper. However, the kids have to want to put in the extra work. Newton graduates this Friday and the kids that will be coming back next year will be in the weight room next week just as they have been doing since the end of football this year.

Newton competes in powerlifting every year and have several coaches coaching powerlifting. Does Warren have a powerlifting program?  Powerlifting is required for all football players and a record is kept on the progress of each player. 
Powerlifting and success go hand in hand when all the kids buy into it.

I just looked at the THSPA website for the last 2 seasons and couldn't a find a boy's name associated with Warren.  Places like Warren need powerlifting to be able to try and get their kids competitive and to try and build something on the boy's side that has some success.  They could also use that on the girl's side as well.  

I hope they're able to find a person that will buy in and help to overcome the inadequacies of genetics and apathy.  When you've got a gene pool that can't compete as they get off the bus you've got to have heart and work ethic and when you have a track record of what Warren does it tends to show the kids aren't getting the foundational base they need to be able to overcome their lack of athleticism (that comes from home).

In a lot of ways, at least in football, I see Warren a lot like Huntington.  They never made the play-offs and the 1st 2 years they did all they did is have kids complain about having to be in football for another week.

[TheOutsider]

1 hour ago, scat_trap said:

That Barbay is the receivers coach at Central Michigan.

Now the OC/QB coach.  He's also been at Lamar, Colorado State, Florida and SFA since at Warren.  Great guy and coach, I just believe Warren is a tough place to win in football.  Not saying it isn't a great place because I've never been there just seems tough to win.

[Guest]

9 hours ago, whsalum said:

I think if Warren would consider giving the AD job to a top notch basketball or baseball coach the overall success of the athletic programs could improve. I have seen Warren field excellent baseball and softball teams in the not so distant past. They also put some solid basketball teams on the hardwood a few years back under Leland Hand and Chris Carter. I’m just throwing a suggestion out there. Everyone always says hire a AD/HC in football and it may be time to rethink those hires.

Not saying this wouldn’t work in Warren… but has this ever worked out for the better anywhere else? 

[whsalum]

4 hours ago, aTmfan06 said:

Not saying this wouldn’t work in Warren… but has this ever worked out for the better anywhere else? 

The schools I mentioned have been successful in the other sports. Warren has had some solid coaches over the years. It ain’t the HC in my opinion. 

[Reagan]

4 hours ago, whsalum said:

The schools I mentioned have been successful in the other sports. Warren has had some solid coaches over the years. It ain’t the HC in my opinion. 

OK, I'll bite, like who?

[whsalum]

3 minutes ago, Reagan said:

OK, I'll bite, like who?

Who? I’m not sure I follow your question. Do you want solid coaches that have been in Warren or successful schools that don’t play football and attach the AD tag to other sports ? 

[Mr. Buddy Garrity]

59 minutes ago, whsalum said:

Who? I’m not sure I follow your question. Do you want solid coaches that have been in Warren or successful schools that don’t play football and attach the AD tag to other sports ? 

That #$&** probably wants Art Briles in Warren like everywhere else. Just ask @WOSgrad 

[Pot Stirrer]

Warren has their guy. Interviews were conducted last week. Just out of respect of my source, not saying who. 

[The Icon]

3 hours ago, Pot Stirrer said:

Warren has their guy. Interviews were conducted last week. Just out of respect of my source, not saying who. 

Toby