5GallonBucket

I don't have a dog in the fight the truth:         Beaumont will always have superior athletic ability as a whole over Nederland.         Beaumont Middle Schools are split among 3 public High Schools and several other private             schools.         Nederland has one high school.         Nederland players predominately stay together thru Middle school to High School         Beaumont players do not.         Nederland is able to compete because there is more unity and they have a head coach that         out coaches the coaches in that district         No im not saying that the beaumont coaches can't coach, but with the talent they have in that         area the beaumont schools should be heads above Nederland or any other team in that district.         I see the talent on the junior high level for beaumont year in and year out.         Coach English is teaching his players and the players get it.         Beaumont coaches seem to use the invidual raw talent/athletic ability as a cruch when it comes         to their coaching/teaching a team .         Coach English can't afford to do that or they would not be competitive.

yall play into these rankings too much. Lumberton was ranked earlier in the year and i told them they we're not a top 25 4A team in texas and they got their panties in a knot.  Now vidor may or maynot be ranked, they're a good team, but IMO they're not a top 25 4A team in Texas.  Parents are emotionally attached and can't see the team for what it really is. All that ranking is good for is to get your school some recognition.  It means nothing in the great scheme of things...get to the playoffs make a run try to win a state championship.

[quote name="BLUEDOVE3" post="1361600" timestamp="1357583409"] [quote author=BMTSoulja1 link=topic=107985.msg1361580#msg1361580 date=1357578756] IMO, size is everything.  You ave a really good player standing 5'11".  You have another player at 6'8" that can do the SAME THING and I'll guarantee you the D-1 college will go after the taller kid.  They don't want to say this, but this is true since you can NEVER teach height... [/quote] I saw a 6'7" (2014) kid playing point guard for a team in NY. He has the size and skill set to play guard. H e will have no problem being recruited. But, there is a market for small guards who can shoot, create their own shots and play some defense. You very seldom see bigger guards posting on the smaller guards in college...hmmmm? I wonder why? [/quote] The game has definitely changed. 

[quote name="Honest Abe" post="1361598" timestamp="1357582325"] [quote author=5gallonbucket link=topic=107985.msg1361590#msg1361590 date=1357580374] Zach has potential, but he better hit the weights and start doing more ball handling skills when basketball season is over......  [/quote]I've been preaching the same thing about the weight room. Basketball has become more physical than finesse. His ball handling skills are as good as anyone in our area. He played point last year, but is playing the '2' this year. He doesn't have the explosiveness to play PG at a D1 school, IMO. He's a shooter though, and that's why he's getting a lot of looks. He's aggressive on offense, but he need to step up his defensive aggression. If he were better physically developed, that would definitely help. [/quote] If your playing a guard position there is always room for improvement in the ball handling area.....as a freshmen coming in you ve got to be ready because those upper classmen are not going to let you just come in and take one of their spots....you're going to have to earn it.  so he will need to continuously work on every aspect of his game leading up to enrolling in college.  can't be rusty.  Gotta be able to take the bumps and handchecks and still handle ball efficiently with eyes up His best friend after the season should be the weightroom

Zach has potential, but he better hit the weights and start doing more ball handling skills when basketball season is over...... 

Weisbrod...is not D1 talent sorry I like watching him play and he's a good high school player, he has a post mentallity with guard size.....that doesn't translate to D1 unless he can play guard on that level and IMO he doesn't have the skill set to do that.  He could get a look just based on Coach English's connections Jordan Hunter has potential....he has basketball IQ along with basketball talent....his size is his down side, but he plays guard so that doesn't play as much of a factor as does the size of a big man.  It all comes down to can he defend a bigger guard. Jared Hunter....possibly D1 potential but not likely....his size hurts him.  For someone his size he has to be LEGIT in order to play D1.  I had a college teammate that was his size so im not saying its not possible, but the percentages are against him. Pearson has potential...but he really needs to put in more footwork and quickness training along with handling the ball.  He's still young so he may grow more, but if he doesn't he'll be a guard or possibly small forward on the next level.  The experience he is getting this young will help with confidence. He seems very hungry, at thats a good quality the others i haven't seen play enough

thanks

I broke out the 270 today and haven't shot it in 2 years the ammo is about 4 years old never really thought about if ammo goes bad. does it????

[quote name="jkbtjc53" post="1356633" timestamp="1355891489"] This list hss lost all my respect Jerquis Beasley only played one game for WOS this year an quit after that [/quote] thats terrible.... Associated press is joke anyways.

figured that

For HF to win 2 district games......baby steps

is this the same strake jesuit as it was in 2008-2010 that had numerous d1 talent and signings

i sometimes wonder why people ask a question they already know the answer to.

they re 3rd teamers could beat liberty

can't go by rankings....either way....  it comes down to matchups and styles of play

just verified by analysis of LUMBERTON's ranking

[quote name="BMTSoulja1" post="1350418" timestamp="1354826396"] [quote author=freeze 1914 link=topic=107221.msg1350406#msg1350406 date=1354825566] Been having this debate with friends of mine and just wanted to you guys input on who is the better team and who would win. [/quote] This would be an interesting debate, however, it would be more interesting to discuss when the season have ended for this here's edition.  This team haven't reached their potential yet.  The 99 jags got better and better as district went on and peaked deep in the playoffs under [b]Coach Green[/b]. [/quote] there's your answer

[quote name="Javelina" post="1349945" timestamp="1354748333"] [quote author=5gallonbucket link=topic=107160.msg1349824#msg1349824 date=1354736301] [quote author=Javelina link=topic=107160.msg1349809#msg1349809 date=1354735193] [quote author=5gallonbucket link=topic=107160.msg1349748#msg1349748 date=1354728817] [quote author=hawgtuff link=topic=107160.msg1349735#msg1349735 date=1354727860] Most smaller schools take volunteers to work the clock and books at the games. Quite crying and volunteer to work the clock or books at your games. [/quote] I do when i can, but if i go to a game that i have no connections to either team they arent going to let me do either. How bout put the phone down lil kid....oh wait your an adult....but your tempted by a ring of a phone like a kid is with candy.....  grow up do your job [/quote] Call the UIL maybe they will pass the 5gallongallonbucket rule and make no phones at the scorers table.  Im not a big basketball fan but when i do go im watching the game not the score keeper and clock operator.  If I wanted to watch 2 people sitting at a table I would turn on ESPN 4 and watch the World Series of Chess.  All im saying is either go tell them to put them down or just let it go. [/quote] Im just shedding light on how irresponsible people are and how people cant resist answering a text message or a phone call.  When the clock operator or book keeper effect the game's outcome or a players foul count/team foul count then it is a problem. But i guess you wouldn't know that cause your not a basketball fan. Whats sad is that people can't merely resist the phone for the length of a game or at least till halftime. I ve been a fan in the stands and i ve also have been a coach on the sideline.  and when your coaching and you notice the book keeper talking or texting on the phone while trying to keep up with the game, so is he/she cheating my players cause he/she is not focuse....thats a problem...  they re not focused on the job at hand.  and yes i have told them to put the phone down. from the way you sound....your one of those people who lives on there phone.  on the phone at the dinner table, on the phone during church, etc etc.  society is so fixated on instant information....  what would yall do without all those gadgets [/quote] Sadly I have to live on my Phone because of my Job Title.  Being an Athletic Admin I am always getting txt about students emails from upset parents and even phone calls from them.  My phone sits in the kitchen while im eatting in the other room and my phone stays in my truck at church cause IMO there is no need for it.  When I am Admin on Duty at basketball games they have there phones but only can check em or whatever they do in between qts and half time.  With that being said I still do not watch them during the game.  But our keepers are teachers volunteering their time and are very professional while on duty. [/quote] i understand that your job and the way society has became so much more technology advanced thats the way things are done now.  but whats sad is that there was a time that we didn't have cell phones and we were still able to do our jobs.  Im not blaming you....its the way society has become...either join them or get left behind.  And i am glad that your teachers are professional...but that cant be said about some of the schools i ve been to....P.A. and Beaumont

[quote name="2-2-1" post="1349838" timestamp="1354738092"] [quote author=5gallonbucket link=topic=107160.msg1349824#msg1349824 date=1354736301] [quote author=Javelina link=topic=107160.msg1349809#msg1349809 date=1354735193] [quote author=5gallonbucket link=topic=107160.msg1349748#msg1349748 date=1354728817] [quote author=hawgtuff link=topic=107160.msg1349735#msg1349735 date=1354727860] Most smaller schools take volunteers to work the clock and books at the games. Quite crying and volunteer to work the clock or books at your games. [/quote] I do when i can, but if i go to a game that i have no connections to either team they arent going to let me do either. How bout put the phone down lil kid....oh wait your an adult....but your tempted by a ring of a phone like a kid is with candy.....  grow up do your job [/quote] Call the UIL maybe they will pass the 5gallongallonbucket rule and make no phones at the scorers table.  Im not a big basketball fan but when i do go im watching the game not the score keeper and clock operator.  If I wanted to watch 2 people sitting at a table I would turn on ESPN 4 and watch the World Series of Chess.  All im saying is either go tell them to put them down or just let it go. [/quote] Im just shedding light on how irresponsible people are and how people cant resist answering a text message or a phone call.  When the clock operator or book keeper effect the game's outcome or a players foul count/team foul count then it is a problem. But i guess you wouldn't know that cause your not a basketball fan. Whats sad is that people can't merely resist the phone for the length of a game or at least till halftime. I ve been a fan in the stands and i ve also have been a coach on the sideline.  and when your coaching and you notice the book keeper talking or texting on the phone while trying to keep up with the game, so is he/she cheating my players cause he/she is not focuse....thats a problem...  they re not focused on the job at hand.  and yes i have told them to put the phone down. from the way you sound....your one of those people who lives on there phone.  on the phone at the dinner table, on the phone during church, etc etc.  society is so fixated on instant information....  [b]what would yall do without all those gadgets[/b] [/quote] I guess I'd go get on my computer and post some worthy soap box material on SETXsports  ;) I agree with you though. P.S. Instant info and "gadgets" aren't a bad thing  :) [/quote] very true....  but i don't let it run my life like alot of people.  I still have an old cell phone and i only have it cause my wife wants me to have one.

[quote name="Javelina" post="1349809" timestamp="1354735193"] [quote author=5gallonbucket link=topic=107160.msg1349748#msg1349748 date=1354728817] [quote author=hawgtuff link=topic=107160.msg1349735#msg1349735 date=1354727860] Most smaller schools take volunteers to work the clock and books at the games. Quite crying and volunteer to work the clock or books at your games. [/quote] I do when i can, but if i go to a game that i have no connections to either team they arent going to let me do either. How bout put the phone down lil kid....oh wait your an adult....but your tempted by a ring of a phone like a kid is with candy.....  grow up do your job [/quote] Call the UIL maybe they will pass the 5gallongallonbucket rule and make no phones at the scorers table.  Im not a big basketball fan but when i do go im watching the game not the score keeper and clock operator.  If I wanted to watch 2 people sitting at a table I would turn on ESPN 4 and watch the World Series of Chess.  All im saying is either go tell them to put them down or just let it go. [/quote] Im just shedding light on how irresponsible people are and how people cant resist answering a text message or a phone call.  When the clock operator or book keeper effect the game's outcome or a players foul count/team foul count then it is a problem. But i guess you wouldn't know that cause your not a basketball fan. Whats sad is that people can't merely resist the phone for the length of a game or at least till halftime. I ve been a fan in the stands and i ve also have been a coach on the sideline.  and when your coaching and you notice the book keeper talking or texting on the phone while trying to keep up with the game, so is he/she cheating my players cause he/she is not focuse....thats a problem...  they re not focused on the job at hand.  and yes i have told them to put the phone down. from the way you sound....your one of those people who lives on there phone.  on the phone at the dinner table, on the phone during church, etc etc.  society is so fixated on instant information....  what would yall do without all those gadgets

[quote name="hawgtuff" post="1349735" timestamp="1354727860"] Most smaller schools take volunteers to work the clock and books at the games. Quite crying and volunteer to work the clock or books at your games. [/quote] I do when i can, but if i go to a game that i have no connections to either team they arent going to let me do either. How bout put the phone down lil kid....oh wait your an adult....but your tempted by a ring of a phone like a kid is with candy.....  grow up do your job

[quote name="oldman" post="1349650" timestamp="1354720983"] [quote author=5gallonbucket link=topic=107160.msg1349606#msg1349606 date=1354716973] book keepers and clock operators please leave your D@%n phones in your vehicle.  I see it too often these people playing/texting/talking on their phones while working books or operating clock......acting like a bunch of kids. [b]I just want slap the _____ out you[/b]. I heard there was issues at the silsbee/lee game...bookkeeper not even notifying the refs of someone fouling out till after that player played several possessions and that a player possibly had one to many fouls marked down for him. not sure if the bookkeeper was distracted by a phone or fans, but it does show lack of focus of the job at hand I agree with you on these points.  I will say this however,  some of these people dont get paid to run the cloth or keep the book.  It is assigned.  If they were paid then maybe they would take a better interest in what they are doing. Hope you don't slap your kids..... :o :o :o [/quote] nope they get wipped with a belt....something that has gone astray in this country

book keepers and clock operators please leave your D@%n phones in your vehicle.  I see it too often these people playing/texting/talking on their phones while working books or operating clock......acting like a bunch of kids. I just want slap the _____ out you. I heard there was issues at the silsbee/lee game...bookkeeper not even notifying the refs of someone fouling out till after that player played several possessions and that a player possibly had one to many fouls marked down for him. not sure if the bookkeeper was distracted by a phone or fans, but it does show lack of focus of the job at hand Stop cheating these players and put your phone down.....  yall are like a kid in a candy store and bug headed towards the light that is going to zap them dead.  if your phone rings and you don't answer it will be okay, life will not end if you don't answer it.

HF's allstate girl is a junior

[quote name="Texans Fan" post="1348676" timestamp="1354591008"] Lumberton came back and beat Port Authur in the Nederland tournament finals. I'm not sure if you knew about that it not but I'm pretty sure that is why TABC ranked them. In my opinion though the only two rankings that mattar are where are you standing at the end of district going into playoffs and where do you stand when the season is finished. [/quote] oh i didn't know that....so who did they lose to then. and yes i agree