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This thread was started by a Nederland guy

This thread was started by a Nederland guy

Last year was a Dallas crew. Do we need to go pull backgrounds on them? Check Facebook friends? Relatives? Any ties to the SOC community? 
I don't like the optics of it due to all the negative conversation that it has triggered but the ref had absolutely ZERO impact on the outcome of the game. People need to move on. 

This! 

Active State Championship Coaches
S Surratt    9
G Joseph     5
T Westerberg     4
R Allen    4
J Herring    4
J Fieszel    4
J Kasowski    3
R Rhoades    3
C Koetting    3
S Harrell     3
H Carter    3
K Hoffman     3
T Rodgers     2
M Fannin    2
L Fedora     2
J Gibson    2
D Boedeker    2
J Todd    2
W Keeling     2
D Faith     2
C Mathis    2
R Samples    2
B Butler    1
C Worrell    1
C Abseck    1
J Willis     1
T Sitton    1
T Beatty    1
S Huff    1
T Reeve    1
D Henigan    1
J Alvarez     1
M Kirchhoff    1
J Thompson     1
R Tullos    1
R Ebner    1
J Bomar    1
M Ables    1
B Gotte     1
D Hyde    1
J King    1
J Drennon    1
B Carney    1
S Ponder     1
J Miller    1
S Doty     1
M Lovorn    1
T Ward    1
C Tackett    1
J Driskell    1
S Parr    1
A Metzel    1
R Jones    1
J Joseph     1

My bad... I updated but did not save it.
Revision coming soon

ELITE DISCUSSION HERE
 

There are 49 active coaches that have won 1

Bingo! There's alot of folks it seems who don't realize that. 

The ref in question is a Nederland Alumni? We should file a grievance over that. 🤣🤣

There was also two more setx refs that i know were at the game. One from vidor another from lumberton. I dont know which game they did. But if they would have alternated crews you could still had some local refs there

Todd is a polarizing figure, but he and his staff are very good coaches. They had their kids ready to play, they just got beat by a really good team....no shame in that
I can assure you the SOC coaching staff is ready to move on, this being done by DISD board members/admin for optics

I guess the fact they had 1 net yard of offense from the 3:30 mark in the 3rd till the end of the game had nothing to do with why they lost.  Teams like that will blame everyone else before holding themselves accountable 

Nothing in football or life is guaranteed.
That being said, I think PN-G has the best chance to go to state of any team that will or may be in 5ADII Region 3 during the 2024 season.
History repeating itself has been a running theme for the Indians the last two seasons. I might point out that, with the exception of 1999, whenever the Indians have gone to state, they’ve made multiple trips over a short period of time.
In particular, this season saw the Indians’ second consecutive title game appearance. The only other time in PN-G history the Indians have made consecutive championship appearances, they went to three title games in a row.
All that’s to say, I like our odds. 😎

This matches my feelings. Even as a png fan, I don’t like the idea of a guy so connected being on the crew. Did it affect the outcome? No. But it should have been avoided.
That being said - All of the things the “disqualify” him can be waived by the coaches’ agreement, and beginning the game with that ref crew constitutes agreement. That means, once they start the game they lose the opportunity to have an opinion on the choice of ref. So, it could be that the coaches asked them to do the game, information was provided, none of the coaches said anything, and at that point they assumed the members they put forward had been approved. It’s not the ref’s job to do their research for them when the information has been provided equally to both sides.
Still, I think it would have been better for him to have been left off. 

They were, but are back at PNI now for the first time in a few years.   I did my kid’s class Christmas party yesterday with his wife.  He’s a Nederland grad, with a business in Groves, that lives in PN.  I do think he should have recused himself from this game even though I think he did a fine job.  Just rewatching the game, he seemed to be the senior official. When the other refs had questions, they went to him.  He has reffed at some high levels including college.  

The chain gang was from Vidor.  Maybe they gave us some 9 yard 1st downs.  😀

PN-G didn’t schedule one beforehand.

This won’t go anywhere. Even if the complaint wasn’t ludicrous, what is the result they think will happen? Overturn every other moment in the game and give the championship to SOC? 
 
I would very much like to see every email and other written communication exchanged between the teams, and between the teams and the ref crew, as well as all of the information that was made available to both sides. SOC is claiming a “lack of transparency,” but I think this is going to more a case of, “you tricked me by me not reading what I was supposed to read.” 
 
I AM curious how a guy with “Port Neches” in his bio ended up on the crew. It seems like something he should have recused himself from. On the other hand, if both sides agree, what harm has been done? 
 
None of this changes the fact that everyone has to deal with bad, even heart-breaking calls. All of us remember games, even in the playoffs, where a ref didn’t call a penalty - or did call a penalty - that we disagreed with. There were several such instances against PNG in this playoffs. If PNG had lost, SOC wouldn’t be complaining about the non-call on PI in the end zone (by the same guy who did the PI that later got called) that stopped a PNG touchdown. They are teaching their kids and community a horrible lesson. 

With what they have returning, I think PNG will be better next year if they can replace Shea.  
 
Nyguen will be tough, but Chatagnier and the young RB coming up should be able to fill in.  Having most of that O-line back sure makes things easier.  
 
Reid Richards is one that hardly came off the field.  Kid is a ball player.  It may take 2 guys to replace him, but it can be done.  
 
As for Shea…PNG won more games with him out this season than when he played.  That said, he was never truly out.  I commented on many game threads this season about him on the sidelines on a scooter giving signals and rolling around motivating the team and getting in Bailey’s ear after every series.  All of his 1 & 2 yard TD’s from the wildcat can be easily replaced.  The leadership he displayed the last 2 seasons on and off the field was the difference in my opinion.  
 
Stats can be replaced.  Leadership is much harder to quantify.  If someone can fill Shea’s huge shoes, PNG should have another great season.  

Personally, I'm looking for my truck not to pull to the right or I am taking it back to the shop.

Come on, let's get real:  Nobody complained about the officiating crew before the game.  WHY?!  Because SOC thought they were not going to lose the game!!

The projected districts has us in a district of 7 teams, which means 4 non district games.  If this is the case, I’d want…
1. PN-G
2. Channelview
3. Mongomery
4. Fort Bend Hightower

I was so sad when his brother got injured. He was a stud with over 90 tackles last season. He was a BA wideout as well. 

Going to be a bit different being defending state champs. Going to get everyones best shot. 

even if challenges were allowed I don think a DPI could be challenged
I do think SOC makes it back, they are loaded at the lower levels with talent and several sophomores played key roles...
When we are talking about talent SOC only had one kid sign with Texas Tech today, a couple go G5 and a few FCS kids....absolutely nothing like last year