lil tokyo

Im just wondering when has the city or culture ever been great to where people wanted to stay in beaumont. And lets be real, it not like people are moving their kids to better cities and cultures. We are talking about sports here. People are literally making lateral moves for the sake of making the playoffs not state championships. and i would like to know what kids are moving that made an impact in BISD? Looking the kids that transferred out of bisd only 4 had varsity experience and they all came from wb. who then went off to silsbee, ce king, converse judson and kelly. everyone else played freshman and jv. If you cant dominate freshman and jv, what make you think youre going to come up in this district and dominate in your position? and Id like to know how many of yall actually watch WB and BU play to make comments about there programs? Because reading these comments, either yall dont watch these teams play or yall dont know football.

The kid can play. WB doesnt have any other qb on the roster that can come in and back him up whether its a sophomore or jr. Roy has played the whole season because he didnt have a qb to back him up. Roy shouldve been benched when he wasnt producing at qb. Wb has a good qb coming up in this kid. 

Let's be real about this. Back in those days i've never seen or heard of all this recruiting that goes on in high school football. Some of these parents act like they are getting paid millions to move their kids to the other side of setx to play football. Beaumont has lot a lot of kids due to angry parents moving because of playing time on varsity when they couldnt dominate freshman nor JV. Its not about the facilities and weight rooms. Its all about playing time for RIGHT NOW. If beaumont kept there kids where they belong you would see different levels of competition. Do you see kids transferring out of the city to go play basketball like you see for football? Whether its Silsbee, port arthur, kelly, or houston schools. No its only football. These parents really dont understand the process of getting their child recruited. Its the camps that they need to attend and do good on the film that they do create. Every player on elite HS teams doesnt get offers to college. So why do these parents do all this moving around when you dont have to? But then want to blame the HS coach for you taking your athlete to another school and get mad when your child have to sit out. Be smart with your kid.

This was funny to read.. i understand what Izzy is saying about the scheduling and resources in BISD. To me, if you want to get better your non district should be scheduled with some stiff competition that is going to prepare you for your district. West Brook Non district schedule is pretty decent with lamar, manvel and deer park. BU schedule against those teams idk.  Watching WB games and film tells me that they can make the playoffs in that 4th spot and that they need to be in 5A due to the size of their roster. But the schools in setx doesnt have the tools and facilities like the schools in houston and the greater houston area. We truly are behind in that category. They are doing the best they can with what they have. I think one school is truly needed for BMT if they want to compete in 6A.
I think West brook if they were 5A would beat PA (in a super close one) and PNG. Now BU i dont know because i havent watched film on them. 

This was funny to read.. i understand what Izzy is saying about the scheduling and resources in BISD. To me, if you want to get better your non district should be scheduled with some stiff competition that is going to prepare you for your district. West Brook Non district schedule is pretty decent with lamar, manvel and deer park. BU schedule against those teams idk.  Watching WB games and film tells me that they can make the playoffs in that 4th spot and that they need to be in 5A due to the size of their roster. But the schools in setx doesnt have the tools and facilities like the schools in houston and the greater houston area. We truly are behind in that category. They are doing the best they can with what they have. I think one school is truly needed for BMT if they want to compete in 6A.
I think West brook if they were 5A would beat PA (in a super close one) and PNG. Now BU i dont know because i havent watched film on them. 

As he should’ve…no coach who knows wtf they’re doing would take a job where they can’t bring in their own staff! This is why you continue to get low level hires of guys from the area or guys out of HISD.
 
I know I might be in the minority on this one but I actually think Graham wasn’t a bad hire…he just couldn’t overcome the hand he was dealt. 
 
I have a few coaching buddies who’ve reached out to me regarding the WB job that is rumored to come open this spring & I caution all of them that I would go in the interview with a list of demands (of the things I stated earlier in this thread) if they can’t meet every single demand don’t even waste your time cause you’re simply setting yourself up for failure. Furthermore me personally I wouldn’t even consider coaching in Beaumont until it made one high school but that’s just me.

This was funny to read.. i understand what Izzy is saying about the scheduling and resources in BISD. To me, if you want to get better your non district should be scheduled with some stiff competition that is going to prepare you for your district. West Brook Non district schedule is pretty decent with lamar, manvel and deer park. BU schedule against those teams idk.  Watching WB games and film tells me that they can make the playoffs in that 4th spot and that they need to be in 5A due to the size of their roster. But the schools in setx doesnt have the tools and facilities like the schools in houston and the greater houston area. We truly are behind in that category. They are doing the best they can with what they have. I think one school is truly needed for BMT if they want to compete in 6A.
I think West brook if they were 5A would beat PA (in a super close one) and PNG. Now BU i dont know because i havent watched film on them. 

Foreman would've been great for WB. People can say what they want about Foreman. He knew how to get his talent sent off to college. 

IZZY is right and its not about coaching or athletes at this point in BISD. Both schools have more than enough athletes to at least compete, and when I say compete I saying w/ 5A programs SMDH... The infrastructure for FOOTBALL is HORRIBLE. You can't compete at the 6A level when you don't have all of your COACHES/ATHLETES in the athletic period. Your athletes are put into BEHIND the 8ball when the playing field is not level. 6A OC/DC coordinators should not teach full loads of classes and only coach after school. Athletes cannot compete when the only time they are coached is after school. UIL and the state of TEXAS has allowed sport specific athletic classes (PE/ Athletic Periods) and when some schools take advantage and others don't it shows on the field. Also financially (the stipends in BISD) are not comparable to any of other 6A programs in the state so bringing in quality coaches/ or keeping coaches in a small town compared to LARGER DISTRICTS is hurting no only FB but all sports.. Im sorry but Basketball has a total of less than 50 players in a program. A quality FB program will have 100-120 so make it make since where BISD is putting their attention when it comes Athletics....   

you mean coaches or players?

yea he didnt have the same talent at ozen as the years of the past. And they werent the same caliber of kids as the central days nor ozen days. Ozen had some players come through there. Louis and Brooks had the best IMO. Stowers group and suggs group were very similar. oh how i miss those central days! nothing like a friday night at babe! lol

I've always said that wb and bu should be 5a. If both schools were we'd be in the playoffs every year. One or the other. Brook has some talented kids still there. Coaching has to get better. The kids have to get better. The community has to get better. whether they have one school or three schools, the kids and parents have to step up and do better. Kids getting kicked off teams, smoking weed and vaping, parents knowing about it and cant control them. It's alot that makes a successful program and its not just at the 50 yard line. 

Absolutely true! 

I've always said that wb and bu should be 5a. If both schools were we'd be in the playoffs every year. One or the other. Brook has some talented kids still there. Coaching has to get better. The kids have to get better. The community has to get better. whether they have one school or three schools, the kids and parents have to step up and do better. Kids getting kicked off teams, smoking weed and vaping, parents knowing about it and cant control them. It's alot that makes a successful program and its not just at the 50 yard line. 

Manvel isn’t the same Manvel it was 5 years ago…so again playing them or PNG does nothing to get you prepared for what’s ahead in a few weeks. If you weren’t in the toughest district in the state I would understand, but as we all know there’s a huge difference between 5A & 6A ball especially in the trenches.

No disrespect to PNG but win or lose scheduling 5A’s don’t get you ready to play the big dogs in 21-6A

Only way BISD has a chance compete in football is if they go to one school & adopt everything I’m going to state below:
Coaching Purge:
Schematically Beaumont is so far behind the curve when it comes to the things they’re teaching those kids on the field. And this is because 90% of the coaching staffs at both schools haven’t coached anywhere outside of Beaumont. So most have no clue what a good offensive/defensive scheme is & couldn’t get on the board & explain why they run it. 
Admin Purge:
It takes more than coaching to win & have a successful football program, look at any successful program across the state & you’ll notice they all have one thing in common. TALENT & an ADMIN who’s built a foundation for their athletic programs to be successful (specifically football). Gotta have true feeder schools, HC has gotta be able to hire his middle school coaches, 90 min athletic periods, coaches not teaching tested subjects etc etc  
Facilities:
Get this every school in 21-6A will have indoor facilities in the next couple years EXCEPT BISD. Humble ISD AD just granted indoors for every school in Humble as his parting gift & NS is waiting on the bond to pass to get theirs. Meanwhile BISD schools are still practicing on old grass fields & working out in outdated weight rooms. Smh
Until BISD does all of the things I named plus more Beaumont don’t have a chance to be successful in football whether they’re playing 5A or 6A! 

I've always said that wb and bu should be 5a. If both schools were we'd be in the playoffs every year. One or the other. Brook has some talented kids still there. Coaching has to get better. The kids have to get better. The community has to get better. whether they have one school or three schools, the kids and parents have to step up and do better. Kids getting kicked off teams, smoking weed and vaping, parents knowing about it and cant control them. It's alot that makes a successful program and its not just at the 50 yard line. 

It's a combination of both. Kids are leaving the programs that were studs. If that 2024 freshman class would've stayed together, they would be able to compete in this district. They had the talent and competed well in the district I think they only lost 2 district games and that was due to players being hurt and one moved up to varsity.  Then you have kids getting kicked off the team because of bad attitudes or smoking weed and vaping. Its other factors besides coaching. Yes, the OC need to do better with play calling. He had one successful drive last night with play calling and it resulted in a TD.  Also, the kids have to stop getting crazy penalties. Now to their defense the officiating was horrible (beginning of the year jitters i get it) however, the kids have to execute the play. You cant expect your defense to hold drives and the offense has you right back on the field in less than a min or two. Its a lot going on at Westbrook and the score doesn't tell the whole picture. They don't tackle at practice and film sessions are nonexistent.  

ill take PA Memorial in this one in a blowout! i dont see png keeping up with PA. 

ill take PA Memorial in this one in a blowout! i dont see png keeping up with PA. 

yea thats what i was worried about is the offense getting better with moving the ball. The defense settled down last year but with wb losing all these kids its going to be tough this year in the "SEC-West" lol

I was there.  Basically, PAM's Oline has to improve but they have another week to get better.  Stover's arm is strong but missed some opportunities.  Once the team scored 1st, they played better as a unit
 
WB's dline is salty but the offense needs work.  Playing in the SEC-West will be a carbon copy of last year if the offense doesn't get it together and fast

I didn't even think to ask him 😂 
 
He'll probably get on later and say it. I know this though: I was expecting a way closer scrimmage than that. 

He said per @Austin1985 so I assuming austin1985 was there and told him…