ispeakjive

I would love to see it, but state championship-caliber teams don't squeak out two point wins against PNG three weeks before the playoffs start.  They should make a nice run, but I don't think they are an elite team.  I can't see them beating the upper echelon teams from this region at this point.  Hopefully they prove me wrong.

Thanks for the response.

Do you know or can you give an idea of when the games will start for the 13's?

Let's not get too self-righteous on this thread LCM fans.  You had a great season and Coach Crouch will get them in the playoffs soon.  They will be a tough program as long as he is there.  And Gonzalez and Z Sonnier are two of the best players in the district, hands down.  But, most of the comments here were in respone to "we would have beat you with our QB healthy" or "maybe you will win one playoff game".  Look at all the posts before you try to claim the high road too soon.

Bearclaw: Maybe LCM will get into the playoffs next year or sometime this decade.  Chew on that while Nederland is working on winning their playoff game or two this year.  Hurt QB or not, that was an old-fashioned country  butt-whuppin'.  Exactly how many yards and points did your injured QB give up tonight?

[quote name="Roughrider" post="886552" timestamp="1287959844"] Where you at Smitty, I am still waiting on you to explain how I blamed the 10 underclassmen which by the way my son is one of them. I really want you to explain how I did this. This is soooooo funny, Smitty is a legend in his own mind...LOL    :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D [/quote] Don't hold your breath Roughrider.  If he does respond, it will be with some poor me reply or something stating how he is the only enlightened one that knows how to fix the program.  He's a joke.  Until he sacks up and goes to a school board meeting or Neumann to ask for the change he desparately wants, he should give it a rest.  I know which one your son is and he is a heck of a player.  Don't let someone like Smitty get him or you down.  The ten underclassmen on defense are improving every week and I think the defense for the next couple years will be stout.  The rest of the district and Smitty better get their shots in now while they are young and improving because I think they will be special the next couple of years.  By the way Smitty, let me enlighten you on the first amendment a little bit:  you do have the right to say any idiotic or slanderous thing you may want, but you have to be a big boy and accept the consequences and criticism that comes from saying what you say. 

I have four tickets for tonight's (South Alabama) game.  I paid $120, will sell for $100 or best offer.  720-7625

Smitty: You truly are pathetic.  You bash one coach week after week and when his unit plays well, you say nothing and then insinuate that anyone calling you out is bashing or blaming the kids.  It is not bashing any particular group of kids to say that talent levels are cyclical and that all of the coaches look better when they have better talent.  That is the same in any sport at any level.  Your refusal to acknowledge that shows your ignorance of sports or contempt of the DC.  I guess in your mind Mack Brown or Urban Meyer are now horrible coaches without Colt McCoy or Tim Tebow. And I haven't seen anyone on here say that he is the greatest thing since sliced bread or that they are in complete lockstep with every decision made by all coaches on the staff or whatever stupid sayings you are so fond of.  Rather, I see a lot of people that believe your constant bashing of one man is petty and predictable, no matter what the results are.  It is cowardly and and way over the line to constantly and openly call for someone to lose his job. You really have turned into a joke.  Whoever said you were like a politician is correct.  You stay with you talking points, no matter how his group performs.  If the facts don't fit your opinion, you just continue to spout your ignorance and bile.  Bring it to the school board or the athletic director, put your name to it or give it a rest.  Enough is enough. And to predict your likely response, yes this is a personal attack and yes I think you are a petty and vindictive idiot.  :) ;) :D ;D >:( :( :o[table][tr][td] ??? ::) :P :-[ :-X :-\ :-* :'([/table]

Smitty: You are splitting hairs when you say the kids played well, BUT... Finish your thought[size=10pt][/size]. You can't have it both ways.  It's pretty disingenuous to blame the DC when the results / stats aren't to your liking and only give credit to the kids when you approve.  That is why everyone (rightly, I think) feels that this is personal with you

Congratulations to the Pirates.  2-1 and a big surprise and playoff contender now.  

Nice to see Hooks staying classy with the big blowouts in his old age. 

No, Smitty, I can offer you nothing of "subsistence", you will have to find something to keep you alive all on your own.  (Check a dictionary before you start using the ten cent words next time, big guy.) ;) But, I have gone through two or three pages of this thread refuting some of your garbage and offering explanations and asking questions and you have offered nothing besides "fire the DC" or "we give up too many yards".  There is no kool-aid from anyone else here, but you.  As for a kool-aid drinker, Jim Jones, you are a cult of one banging the drum every day for one person to be accountable for what you think is wrong with the program and it is pretty cowardly in my opinion.   [quote name="smitty" post="868797" timestamp="1286558405"] You offer nothing but personal attacks.  I see you personally attacked a Lumberton supporter on anther post.  I guess if one can't offer anything of subsistence then one offers only personally attacks.  I guess this is all some kool-aid drinkers have to offer.  LOL!!!!   ;D    ::) [quote author=ispeakjive link=topic=73772.msg868763#msg868763 date=1286556283] We are trying to do the Lord's work in educating the ignorant and showing attention to the shunned... :D One day, Smitty will see the error of his ways and make an intelligent or relevant post. [/quote] [/quote]

We are trying to do the Lord's work in educating the ignorant and showing attention to the shunned... :D One day, Smitty will see the error of his ways and make an intelligent or relevant post.

So, in Coach Smitty's perfect world, do you put all of the best players on defense and neglect your offense or do you try to keep some balance or play to your strength like I think Neumann is trying to do this year.  And, where do you stop with defensive stats?  Which do you use, least yardage allowed, least points allowed, fewest first downs allowed, turnovers, forced fumbles, interceptions, havind the top defensive player in the district, etc.  Or do you just use wins like most people do? [quote name="smitty" post="868414" timestamp="1286506110"] Well, whether or not one believes this, that's a personal preference.  I for one do.  [quote author=ispeakjive link=topic=73772.msg868410#msg868410 date=1286505852] 'Defense wins championships' is a cliche, not a fact as you claim you like to use.  Teams win championships, not the defense or the offense, individually.  [/quote] [/quote]

'Defense wins championships' is a cliche, not a fact as you claim you like to use.  Teams win championships, not the defense or the offense, individually. 

I didn't think that profit would matter because of the athletic fee that students pay?

Smitty: Your "logic" here is ridiculous.  You seem to be insinuating that if the defense did not finish #1 in the district that the DC should be replaced.  What about the years that the defense carried the team and the offense lagged- should the OC have been replaced?  You haven't because you know that is not rational. Using your unattainable standard, anytime Neumann, or any head coach at NHS doesn't win district, finishing first, we should be screaming for a change.  I would hope that even you would realize the ignorance in your logic.  You have to judge the whole body of work, not just cherry-pick and use agenda-driven stats. 

If stats alone won games, Warren Moon and the Oilers would have won three or four Super Bowls.  Back in the day when the Spread Offense was known as the Run and Shoot they racked up tons of yards and points.  This isn't fantasy football where raw stats win.  You can have the same issue with a defense - lots of yards, but timely stops and plays.  Nederland has been known for that even five or ten years ago.  It is a team game and stats can be misleading.  PNG had more yards, but lost.  How do you account for that? 

I am right here and I have been for the last 20 plus years.  You know what they say about lies, damn lies and statistics. Even in some of the deep playoff runs we gave up yardage.  The main stat is the 'W'.  But, I have noticed that both OC and DC look better when they are flush with talent.  Schemes, etc. are solid IMHO, it is just about executions.  Better players execute better than average ones.  Quite the concept. 

I have a hard time understanding how it is bumpkin to want to see the program win and develop.  You have to know your market and the market here, maybe more so than other college towns, is going to dictate that you win in order for the program to be supported.  Any premature bump to FBS and 3-8, 4-7, etc. seasons will kill the program.  Again.  The size of the town doesn't matter, it is your recruiting and fan base that dictate what you can do with your program.  But, since you mentioned it, La. Tech and ULM have really raised their national profile by playing, FBS, haven't they.  It is not bumpkin to develop what you have instead of having grandiose plans that fall flat.  Lamar is a great, regional university, and it is not bumpkin to accept that and develop it under the constraints that are there. [quote name="UNLV" post="867115" timestamp="1286384026"] Typical bumpkin Setx mentality. Lets all forget that Beaumont is bigger than Monroe and Ruston combined and that LU is bigger than UL-Monroe and La tech. [/quote]

Call me crazy, but I would rather the program strive for championships in FCS than aspire to 6-5 seasons in FBS and hopefully get one Tuesday night game a year while playing in the lower levels of FBS.  I truly hope that it is not what Dr. Simmons and Coach Tubbs brought the program back for.  I could care less if there are ever any nationally-televised games as long as the program is winning.  I would be willing to wager a pretty sizeable bet that neither Troy nor Middle Tennessee State garnered any additional students on their campuses from playing a Tuesday night game on ESPN in the first week of October.  Let's assume we go to the Sun Belt.  Do you think Middle Tennesse State would pack them in at the Stadium more than Sam Houston or SFA?  I would say no.

I am not blaming the kids from any particular season, just stating facts as you always demand of everyone else.  And, after inferring that I was blaming the kids, you failed to address any of the other issues I brought up.  That speaks volumes, in my opinion.  To just say that replacing the DC would "improve the defense 1000%" lacks any basis in fact.  You are losing your clothes, emperor. [quote name="smitty" post="866893" timestamp="1286336628"] First of all, AGAIN, I don't blame the kids.  Missed tackles and giving up yards, I blame the coaches and DC in particular.  Like I said before, I'll leave blaming the kids to others!   ;) [quote author=ispeakjive link=topic=73772.msg866879#msg866879 date=1286335093] Even if they are very talented, it is unrealistic to expect a sophomore-heavy defense to shut teams down week in and week out.  In my opinion, you can afford to do that with a year like this where your offense is solid.  If the talent is not great on defense I think it is unfair to blame the DC.  If you look back at the good defenses from the past five or ten years, they were loaded with talent: Piletere, Sanchez, Cobb, Johnson, and so on.  With all due respect to the last couple years' kids, there was a little drop-off.  This group can and will be good.   If you want to criticize or judge a DC, do it on scheme or how he adjusts during games.  I think all of that is solid right now, we have just lacked playmakers the last couple years.  Throw out last year and this is a rebuilding year.   Now, if you want to look at an example of a DC not scheming or adjusting properly, look no further than the PNG  DC last Friday.  With all due respect to our neighbors across the tracks, they never adjusted to or stopped the Wildcat and that was a big factor in the game.  I was shocked (and glad) that they never stepped up to stop Sonnier ripping it up the middle.   Show me something like that Smitty and then I will quit drinking the Kool-Aid.  Saying they miss tackles or give up yards doesn't cut it.     [/quote] [/quote]

What fact do you base that on? [quote name="smitty" post="866889" timestamp="1286336469"] You have my answer. You may not like it but you have it.  Bring in a new DC and you will see an 1,000% improvement.  No doubt in my mind!    ;) [quote author=The-NHS link=topic=73772.msg866862#msg866862 date=1286333935] I still have yet to see your expert review on how we should be a better defensive team. I'm not talking about your typical change the DC answer. I want your expert review on how our defense can be better. Anyone can get on here and post Fire the DC. Lets see a little more substance. [/quote] [/quote]

Did any of you care about the hotly-contested Troy v. Middle Tennessee State on ESPN showcasing two low-level FBS teams no one really knows or cares about?  My guess is neither did anyone else. I'm sure the Sugar, Rose, Fiesta, Orange, Cotton, etc. Bowl committees were dialed into that game as well.  Lamar should be envious.

Even if they are very talented, it is unrealistic to expect a sophomore-heavy defense to shut teams down week in and week out.  In my opinion, you can afford to do that with a year like this where your offense is solid.  If the talent is not great on defense I think it is unfair to blame the DC.  If you look back at the good defenses from the past five or ten years, they were loaded with talent: Piletere, Sanchez, Cobb, Johnson, and so on.  With all due respect to the last couple years' kids, there was a little drop-off.  This group can and will be good.   If you want to criticize or judge a DC, do it on scheme or how he adjusts during games.  I think all of that is solid right now, we have just lacked playmakers the last couple years.  Throw out last year and this is a rebuilding year.   Now, if you want to look at an example of a DC not scheming or adjusting properly, look no further than the PNG  DC last Friday.  With all due respect to our neighbors across the tracks, they never adjusted to or stopped the Wildcat and that was a big factor in the game.  I was shocked (and glad) that they never stepped up to stop Sonnier ripping it up the middle.   Show me something like that Smitty and then I will quit drinking the Kool-Aid.  Saying they miss tackles or give up yards doesn't cut it.