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Just my opinion, and it might not be worth much, but Corbin Carr should be considered the frontrunner for district MVP. The way he (and the rest of the D-line) is playing right now fundamentally alters how the opposing teams run their offense and even call plays. Livingston's OC was shellshocked last night. 

I wonder how everyone feels about the Heartsfield hire now? 

Good teams find ways to win when they are not playing well.  Nederland did that tonight and deserved the win.  Raines will play better than he did tonight and the running game appears to be improving.  If those two things continue, Nederland will be tough to beat throughout district. Vidor played well and will make the playoffs.  Those kids are scrappy and look to pop someone in the mouth on every play on offense and defense.  I can't imagine anyone in district will be looking forward to playing them this season. 

is this a joke?

My son's team beat a Bandito group a classification higher than them a couple years ago. In the younger levels I don't think there is any benefit to playing with a group like that and subjecting yourself to the travel.  The kids may get a little more exposure playing for their high school-age teams, but  realistically the Gladiators and Sun Devils are getting kids noticed and placed on college teams at about the same level as the Banditos.  I think you are wasting a bunch of trips.

[quote name="Scalp'em" post="1046657" timestamp="1314972933"] [quote author=BORAM link=topic=86957.msg1046229#msg1046229 date=1314909480] Sept 20th....Raiders vs PNG @ Lumberton. This will be a great preview of things to come! [/quote] Same old same old. Lumberton beats thier chest in youth and middle school football. Come Varsity time, the NDNS puts it on the Raiders. Enjoy your district championship at the middle school level. ::) [/quote] What people in Lumberton need to remember is that they are playing with all of their kids in middle school where in Nederland and PN-G, the groups are split.  Lumberton should be winning at the middle school level because they have their entire talent pool to draw from.  But, what you play with in 7th and 8th grade is what you are stuck with when they get in high school.  In Nederland and PN-G, you have two feeder schools that are developing kids.  The high school coaches have a much deeper pool of players to choose from when they come out of 8th grade.  C.O. is definitely the better group in Nederland, but when they get to high school if you augment that group with even three or four players from Central that may be able to help, I definitely like their odds against Lumberton the next four years.  Same goes for Port Neches and Groves.  The whole will definitely be better than its component parts.  Enjoy the victories in middle school, because it doesn't necessarily mean that it will carry over to high school.  Ask Vidor from a few years ago when they were dominating the middle school league and had no playoff wins (or even appearances I think for that matter) to show for it when those groups were in high school. 

Raiderwhatever: I can definitely see dogging Ned's QB when Lumberton was apparently an offensive juggernaut last night against a much weaker 3A team coming off of a terrible season.  Stay classy there in Hardin County.

Smitty: Let me try and save you a week's (and maybe season's) worth of posts: WOS is too fast for us and the Defensive Coordinator won't make any adjustments to compensate for their speed.  He will be the cause for it if we lose this week and for a poor season if it happens.  That should about cover it.  If I left anything out I am sure that you will grab the stick and start flogging that dead horse again soon.

All of these areguments are moot.  While some of the lecturing has become tiresome, Mmosley is right, the AD can only hire coaches within the constraints of the teaching positions that are provided to him by the administration.  Period.  And the fact is that J. Walker is a very attractive commodity to a principal and AD because he teaches science.  There are very few coaches that can teach science and math and getting someone who can teach science and coach three sports is a huge asset to an AD.  Once you do that a sport is going to get short changed and speaking objectively, basketball was it in this hire.   With that said, I seriously doubt that Neumann did that just to torpedo the basketball program.  I would bet anyone that Walker filled several needs and fit within the budgetary requirements Neumann had to work with.  End of story.  Plus, at this late in the year, it is way easier to fill a freshman football / assistant basketball / assistant baseball position than it is to find a new girls head coach.   I am sure that coach Smith is disappointed, but he probably understands all of the moving parts and implications of what happened way more than some of the people on this board do.

Lighten up, Francis

Wow!  Sounds like a head football coach / AD trying to kill a successful basketball program. Mackey may be a great basketball coach, but having a varsity football coordinator coach basketball is a bad idea.  If the football team make any kind is playoff run the basketball program will be on the back burner.  Plus basketball practice starts before the end of football.  Where will his commitment be?  Definitely not fair to the basketball program.

Bottom Row (seated - left to right): Zack Friesz, Logan New, Kody Kolb, Cole Girouard Middle Row (kneeling - left to right): Jacob Jones, Austin Krautz, Chase Warren, Jacob Guilbeaux, Zack Collier, Colton Hicks Top Row (standing - left to right): Mgr - Troy Jones, Eric Bankston, Adam Morse, Christian Walker, Steven Yarbro, Bryce Hoffpauir, Coach Johnny Krautz, Coach Rickey Hicks

Nederland- 9 Bay City -  3 Nederland plays Wharton at 4:00 Saturday in semifinals

West Brazos - 1 Nederland    - 11 Final Nederland plays host Bay City at 7:30 tonight.

It is if it is genuine.

I see that Little League Intl.'s never ending quest to drive more people to select baseball continues.  I understand and respect their rules, but some are so arbitrary and arcane that you can't even tell when some of them have been violated. At this point, the only reason to play Little League and all-stars is for some misplaced sense of community pride.  If the goal is to expose young players to the best possible baseball, then select is the way to go. 

I can't speak for anyone else, but I understand that completely.  But, I also know that in a couple of districts that I was in that you usually had the OC and DC that had two athletic periods and maybe taught one PE class.  Not to take away from what they did in athletics, but from an administrator's perspective and scheduling classes, they don't bring anything to the table as far as core subjects.  I understand that is not the norm, but that situation exists in most 4A and 5A districts.  Again, if you look at block scheduling and two four period days, a regular teacher teaches six core subject classes over the course of those two days while a coach may teach three to four.  If the funds are there, I am all for having as many coaches as you can afford; that's how I made my living for several years.  But, if the money isn't there, you have to focus on core subjects.  My bet would be that instead of just mass lay-offs of coaches, you will instead see them just put into the classroom with a full slate of classes and no coaching duties (for those who teach core subjects).  If I were a PE teacher / coach right now, I would be a little worried. 

As long as PE is required coaches are needed in the gym, not multiple coaches at a time, but coaches are needed. Another way to look at things; a coach that teaches fills the classroom spot. Then you also get a sport coach for a little stipend. Double value [/quote] I understand what you mean by that, but unfortunately, most administrators are going to have a different view.  From their perspective, a coach is not necessarily giving them double value, but half.  In a block schedule, four period day, if a teacher / coach teaches two periods of a core subject and has an athletic period and his / her conference period, the administrator views that as losing two periods of classroom instruction over the course of two block schedule days.  Understand, I am not advocating this, but that is how a lot of administrators view teacher / coaches. 

Smitty, I never thought I would say it, but you are almost spot on with what you have posted on this thread.  I don't think that anyone on this board wants to see athletic budgets cut, but with the problems coming, you are going to have to cut and sacrifice somewhere.  Athletics are extra-curricular, just like choir, band, etc.  Those areas should have to share the burden of cuts as well.  And, whoever said that bloated administrative budgets should be first is absolutely correct.  All administrators not directly involved with students should be looking at minimum five to ten percent cuts - Butch's should be more like forty to fifty percent.  I used to coach and no one respects what those guys and ladies do more than me, but you have to cut the "wants" (athletics, band, other extra-curricular activities) first before you even think about cutting the "needs" (core subject teachers).  If a coach teaches a core subject, he or she should get priority.  But, I think that most athletic staffs are going to have to learn to do more with less for the time being.  It's unfortunate, but probably necessary right now.  Most of the districts in this area have very competent and able athletic directors and asking a high school football staff to make it with nine coaches instead of ten or a middle school staff to make it with three instead of four should not greatly impact what the kids are learning. 

Wow, Smitty, it's March and you are already in mid-season form!  The offseason has been good to you. Your argument is ridiculous.  You seem to be saying that since Nederland hasn't won a State Championship that the DC is a failure.  By that measure, 95+% of all coordinators and head coaches in the State are failures.  With so many failures, who is there left to hire in Smittyville?

[quote name="stevenash" post="980294" timestamp="1299721139"] Hate for that to happen but dont believe raising taxes is the answer.  If they make cuts, they need to look where there might be too many administrative positions before considering teachers [/quote] You hit the nail on the head.  Almost every district in this area is extremely top-heavy.  There is a lot of duplication of duties and jobs can be consolidated without any impact on the students.  You can hire almost three new teachers for what is paid to one average administrator.

Just a guess, either you are a HS baseball coach or your kid didn't get picked for the select team you wanted him to play on.  Or both.  Coaching is like any other profession, there are good ones and there are bad ones.  For the most part, this area is very lucky in that most of the HS coaches are pretty knowledgeable.  As for select ball, is there a certain amount of daddyball, especially at the lower levels of select, sure.  But that holds true for Little League as well and any other youth sports organization.  But once they get to the 14, 15, 16 year-old level, I think the kids are there for the right reasons and are trying to get better.  They shouldn't be derided for that. 

[quote name="u_dnt_kno_me" post="980472" timestamp="1299772377"] a VERY close insider as told me the score will be Eula 50 Evadale 3 [/quote] I don't live in or have any ties to Evadale, but I will always root for local teams when they advance this far.  You sir, are a complete jack***.

Now that I think of it, Nederland's tennis team really suffered last fall because Trevin Sonnier, Stephen Schlett and Kelvin Smith were all selfishly playing other sports that they excel in and not serving and volleying all fall.  How dare those selfish kids not participate like Redhead demands. 

[b]And if your an athlete you should play all sports otherwise you are only being selfish!!![/b] That is without a doubt, the dumbest, most incoherent thing that I have ever read on this website.  I guess in Redhead's world, any kid who shows any kind of athletic ability should play every sport out there, even if he doesn't like it or it conflicts with something he loves and is really good at, just for some misplaced sense of school or town pride.  I would assume that by everything, you are talking about the kids that don't play football being selfish because they choose to play basketball or baseball and don't entertain you every Friday night in the fall.