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    watup reacted to BBfan061 in Pollok Central 44 East Chambers 51/FINAL   
    We could be headed for a Kountze vs East Chambers rematch.
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    watup reacted to Knox34 in Orangefield HIRED Bryan Whitmire   
    2 png parents said that same parent from OF is trying to get his son to play there 🤔. Btw. Whitmire is orangefields coach. I believe it’s official. 
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    watup reacted to Knox34 in Orangefield HIRED Bryan Whitmire   
    The thing is orangefield should be a desirable place to go coach. They have talent and have a city that supports them and a school that supports them. The problem is when you get parents that are too involved and want to lead the team or think they no more than the coaches. They turn a desirable job into a vacancy that will be very hard to fill with an experienced good coach. All these coaches talk and know what to expect from the parents going into it. A lot of them will stay clear of that job to avoid the headaches that come with it. If the parents want the best for the team they need to keep their opinions to themselves. 
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    watup reacted to VHS73 in DuBois named Vidor new AD/Head Football Coach   
    Applicants for Vidor HC/AD:
    Robert Deshazo-Lumberton
    Milton Dwayne Dubois- retired former Vidor, BC, HJ
    Ricklan Holmes-Tyler
    Bruce Munden-Eureka Kansas
    Robie Robbins-Rockport-Fulton DC
    Jake Smith-HC Hardin
    Michael Trahan-Vidor OC
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    watup reacted to Fortheloveofthegame in DuBois named Vidor new AD/Head Football Coach   
    I don't think so.  DuBois and Mike Trahan (who is on the current coaching staff) were the two I knew of.  There were two more that had applied I believe. 
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    watup got a reaction from Reagan in DuBois named Vidor new AD/Head Football Coach   
    Have they released a list of who applied yet?
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    watup reacted to Mr. Buddy Garrity in United vs. West Brook, Gm 4 predictions   
    I figured it would be San Antonio, I've heard good things about that chapter lately. 
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    watup reacted to oldschool2 in Timpson basketball coach   
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    watup reacted to AggiesAreWe in Buna 60 vs. Kountze 49/FINAL - Play In Game   
    Went local and the three here are as good as you can get. Couple of college level officials 
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    watup reacted to mfd814 in Hardin 35 East Chambers 86/FINAL   
    Probably because Coach Sutherland is a nice guy and didn’t run it up like it was possible. 
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    watup reacted to TxHoops in Buna playoffs??   
    I think everyone would agree Joubert is a good coach.  Yet from 2014 through 2017, Whitmire had a winning record against Kountze and that was during the Arnold, Harper, Stanford era when Kountze basketball was at a really good place (not the apex of Lion basketball but certainly toward the top).  So I would, in fact, argue Whitmire did more with less.  And that is no slight on Wilson.  He was also a really good hire. But to try and downplay what Whitmire did at Buna shows either sour grapes or an extreme lack of knowledge of the game of basketball (or both).  
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    watup reacted to AggiesAreWe in Lumberton 61 Bridge City 45/FINAL   
    Just for the matter of accuracy, it wasn't Vidor who pushed Jasper to OT in that tourney game. Vidor had a 25 point lead at one time in that game and led the entire game right up to the final 45 seconds. Jasper is the one that sent the game to overtime.
    Vidor really had no business losing that game. I will say they have probably digressed the most of all the teams in the district from the first of the season.
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    watup reacted to JimThorpe in Lumberton 61 Bridge City 45/FINAL   
    Big win for the Raiders who just locked up 3rd place and a date with Hamshire Fannett or less likely HJ.  If they play that whole game like they the first half against Silsbee last Tuesday the Raiders have a shot at the second round.    

    Bridge city will meet Jasper on Friday to decide 4th place in the district.  They'll have to play better than this to win but they can do it.  
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    watup reacted to cb3plus3 in Lumberton 61 Bridge City 45/FINAL   
    Lumberton shot lights out had a better strategy in 2nd half, we couldn't stop. Our guys played poorly no excuses. They were better tonight. 
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    watup reacted to AggiesAreWe in East Chambers 61 Anahuac 58/FINAL   
    Win #899 for Coach Sutherland.
    Next win will be #900. Very elite status this man walks among.
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    watup got a reaction from 409_Lion in SETX Officiating - A Victim of an Official Shortage or an Epidemic of Incompetence   
    Open letter to: Fans, parents; players, coaches and AD’s.
    Keep It Positive!
    You may or may not know we are having a shortage of officials.  Veteran officials are leaving the game and younger officials are hard to recruit.
    There are many reasons but one of the biggest concerns is, in game behavior towards officials.
    As a reminder, this is not our job.  We do it for the game, we do it for the players; we do it for your children.  Yes, we get paid, but for $45 to $70 would you leave work at 5PM, drive an hour away, do a 7:30 game and get home between 9:00 and 10:30, 4 to 5 nights a week?  And, have people you never met, yell when you make a call or don’t make a call.  Did I mention we have to pay annual fees and dues to the state and local associations?  Did I mention we must also attend a number of on-line and local association meetings?  And of course, buy uniforms.  Would you give up your Friday and Saturday nights for four months for my child?
    Yes, some officials are not the most fleet of foot, some are still learning, and some are just not that good, but they are still out there so your children can play.  You’re not going to get NCAA officials for your junior high school game.  What you get, is a dedicated; passionate person who loves the game.
    Shooters don’t make every shot. Football players miss tackles and hold.  In MLB baseball the three statistics always shown are Runs, Hits and ERRORS.  Yes Errors.  The best athletes in the world make mistakes.  And so do officials, we are human.  The world will not end because of a missed travel.
    Imagine doing your job and every 3 minutes, a stranger looks over your shoulder and tells you “You’re horrible”. “You’re doing it wrong”.  They may be right, but could you work under those conditions? Would you want to?  And it’s become more physical.  Just last week alone, there were two incidents where parent fans attacked officials.  One was a Tennessee senator!
    What makes it worse, is when those people yelling at you have no idea what your job is.
    The reason for this letter is to ask for a commitment.  If we don’t make changes, youth sports may be in serious trouble.  The average high school official is 58 years old.  Many games had to be cancelled the last two years due to shortage of officials.
    If you’re a parent or a fan, support the players, cheer for them. Just because you paid your $6.00 doesn’t give you the right to scream and yell obscenities to the officials.  Cheer for your team.  Keep it positive.
    If you’re a player, ask your parents to behave, have better social skills.  It’s embarrassing to the child when we have to remove a player’s parent.  If you want to make a difference, when you’re done with school, become an official we need them.
    If you’re a coach or AD, lead by example.  Respect the officials, give feedback to your assignors we will work on improving their skills.  Demand your parents sign a Code of Conduct at your parent’s meetings.   As simple as, “We understand if anyone is anything but positive, to opposing teams, fans or officials, they will be removed from the event.  The second time they will be banned for the season”.  Remind them every pre-game. Then please enforce it. Zero tolerance.
    We hear all the time, “the gym and athletics are an extension of the classroom”. Would you let these things happen in “your” class?  We can’t allow it to continue.  We have 15 minutes of warm up, make the announcement.  AT EVERY GAME.  I know no one wants to be the bad guy but their behavior is what caused it.  By letting this behavior continue it’s only going to get worse. Set the example.
    I am committed to you, to continue to educate officials. I am asking you to commit to helping us keep them on the court.
    One of the many reasons fans and even coaches yell and scream, is that they don’t understand NFHS rules.
    What you see on TV is not National Federation High School rules.  There are at least 5 sets of different rules, between the pro and high school levels.  So let me start with a few simple top 10 rules that many people don’t understand, and we hear them every night.  Feel free to share these at your parent meetings or send home or give to your players.
     
    1)     Over the Back- There is no foul for “over the back”.  Over the back means a taller player reached over and secured the ball.  Over the back is legal.  On the back or pushing through the back to get a ball is illegal.  It’s a push.
    2)     A player, while dribbling can fumble the ball all the way down the court legally.  As long as it’s not intentional.  It is impossible to travel if you don’t have control of the ball.  It’s ugly but we have no call for ugly.
    3)     A dribbler who lets the ball bounce high, even over their head has not “carried” the ball.  It is a high dribble.  As long as the hand doesn’t go under to “carry” or come to rest in the hand, the dribble is legal.
    4)     Three seconds in the key.  This only applies while the ball is in the front court.  “If a player has been in for less than three seconds and dribbles in or attempts a goal no call should be made”. 
    The three second count restarts on every shot attempt and doesn’t start until the team has control of the rebound.  So yes, a player could be in the key for 10 or more seconds if attempts are being made to score.
    5)     A player diving for a lose-ball, even once securing the ball, can slide any distance without traveling.  It is only if the player rolls over to avoid a defender or attempts to get up without dribbling that a violation occurs.
    6)     A “box out” is securing a position on the floor.  Displacement is pushing somebody off a position and is illegal.  A player can not crash into an opponent as a box out.  That is a foul.
    7)     A kick violation was changed to an intentional act, so if a player throws the ball off a foot or a leg it is not a violation.  Only an intentional kick is a violation.
    😎     The definition of a foul is: Illegal contact, on an opponent, during a live ball, that hinders their ability to make an offensive or defensive play. 
    Therefore:
    1)     A moving screen with no contact is not illegal.  An illegal screen is when a player does not set a legal screen and makes contact or once contact is made, then makes illegal contact.
    2)     Not all contact is a foul. There can be contact that doesn’t “hinder” a player’s ability to make the play. High school athletes can play through some contact.
    9)     A player does not have to be “set” to take a charge.  Once “legal guarding position” is established, the defender can move sideways, backwards and even jump and still be legal.    (Legal Guarding Position = both feet on the floor facing their opponent)
    10)  All four sides of the backboard are in bounds (on a square backboard).  The ball can legally bounce on the top of the backboard, roll on the top and fall into the basket and be a good goal.  Over the backboard from either side or touching any of the support straps, springs or cables cause the ball to be out of bounds
    These are the top 10 rules that are misunderstood. There are plenty more, but this is a good start
    Let’s all make an effort to keep the kids playing.  We need your help. 
    Keep It Positive!  Please.
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    watup reacted to Knox34 in SETX Officiating - A Victim of an Official Shortage or an Epidemic of Incompetence   
    If I’m not mistaken. The varsity coaches do approve the officials well before the game. They know who and what they are getting and can turn down any official they don’t want. And as far as the experience surely they are required more than a year of before hitting varsity level.  I’ll let one of these officials weigh in on that though 
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    watup got a reaction from gogo173489 in SETX Officiating - A Victim of an Official Shortage or an Epidemic of Incompetence   
    I'm recruiting you not throwing you under the bus.
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    watup reacted to Coach 01 in SETX Officiating - A Victim of an Official Shortage or an Epidemic of Incompetence   
    I've been to alot of games this year. The worst officiated game I have seen, by far, was called by the Houston Chapter. But, could be a matter of perspective as the team I pull for was on the wrong side of 90% of the calls. I assume the team we were playing against thought it was a well officiated game and would probably welcome that particular crew back with open arms.
    Officials have gotten worse, parents have gotten worse, kids have gotten worse, and coaches have gotten worse. I have been embarrassed of some of the crap I hear from our own fans. More than a handful of coaches that spend more time with their hands up and begging for calls than they do coaching their kids. Kids with zero respect for any type of adult or authority figure. Officials that get offended and use the whistle or lack thereof as a tool to get back and the people that are yelling and screaming at them. I would say the vast majority of the "bad calls" I have seen this year isn't a matter of knowing the rules. It feels like they know full well what the rules are, but you wanna yell and scream and act like a fool and disparage my every move, watch this call not go your way again the rest of the game. It's not right, but that's typically what a "poorly officiated game" is the result of, from what I have seen.
    You also get what you pay for. $15 an hour for 3-4 hours on a Friday night is dirt cheap. My solution for the quality official shortage, would be to offer quality compensation. $75 a night is not getting high level officials in the door, and it definitely isn't going to keep them there long.  
     
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    watup got a reaction from rhino1877 in SETX Officiating - A Victim of an Official Shortage or an Epidemic of Incompetence   
    Open letter to: Fans, parents; players, coaches and AD’s.
    Keep It Positive!
    You may or may not know we are having a shortage of officials.  Veteran officials are leaving the game and younger officials are hard to recruit.
    There are many reasons but one of the biggest concerns is, in game behavior towards officials.
    As a reminder, this is not our job.  We do it for the game, we do it for the players; we do it for your children.  Yes, we get paid, but for $45 to $70 would you leave work at 5PM, drive an hour away, do a 7:30 game and get home between 9:00 and 10:30, 4 to 5 nights a week?  And, have people you never met, yell when you make a call or don’t make a call.  Did I mention we have to pay annual fees and dues to the state and local associations?  Did I mention we must also attend a number of on-line and local association meetings?  And of course, buy uniforms.  Would you give up your Friday and Saturday nights for four months for my child?
    Yes, some officials are not the most fleet of foot, some are still learning, and some are just not that good, but they are still out there so your children can play.  You’re not going to get NCAA officials for your junior high school game.  What you get, is a dedicated; passionate person who loves the game.
    Shooters don’t make every shot. Football players miss tackles and hold.  In MLB baseball the three statistics always shown are Runs, Hits and ERRORS.  Yes Errors.  The best athletes in the world make mistakes.  And so do officials, we are human.  The world will not end because of a missed travel.
    Imagine doing your job and every 3 minutes, a stranger looks over your shoulder and tells you “You’re horrible”. “You’re doing it wrong”.  They may be right, but could you work under those conditions? Would you want to?  And it’s become more physical.  Just last week alone, there were two incidents where parent fans attacked officials.  One was a Tennessee senator!
    What makes it worse, is when those people yelling at you have no idea what your job is.
    The reason for this letter is to ask for a commitment.  If we don’t make changes, youth sports may be in serious trouble.  The average high school official is 58 years old.  Many games had to be cancelled the last two years due to shortage of officials.
    If you’re a parent or a fan, support the players, cheer for them. Just because you paid your $6.00 doesn’t give you the right to scream and yell obscenities to the officials.  Cheer for your team.  Keep it positive.
    If you’re a player, ask your parents to behave, have better social skills.  It’s embarrassing to the child when we have to remove a player’s parent.  If you want to make a difference, when you’re done with school, become an official we need them.
    If you’re a coach or AD, lead by example.  Respect the officials, give feedback to your assignors we will work on improving their skills.  Demand your parents sign a Code of Conduct at your parent’s meetings.   As simple as, “We understand if anyone is anything but positive, to opposing teams, fans or officials, they will be removed from the event.  The second time they will be banned for the season”.  Remind them every pre-game. Then please enforce it. Zero tolerance.
    We hear all the time, “the gym and athletics are an extension of the classroom”. Would you let these things happen in “your” class?  We can’t allow it to continue.  We have 15 minutes of warm up, make the announcement.  AT EVERY GAME.  I know no one wants to be the bad guy but their behavior is what caused it.  By letting this behavior continue it’s only going to get worse. Set the example.
    I am committed to you, to continue to educate officials. I am asking you to commit to helping us keep them on the court.
    One of the many reasons fans and even coaches yell and scream, is that they don’t understand NFHS rules.
    What you see on TV is not National Federation High School rules.  There are at least 5 sets of different rules, between the pro and high school levels.  So let me start with a few simple top 10 rules that many people don’t understand, and we hear them every night.  Feel free to share these at your parent meetings or send home or give to your players.
     
    1)     Over the Back- There is no foul for “over the back”.  Over the back means a taller player reached over and secured the ball.  Over the back is legal.  On the back or pushing through the back to get a ball is illegal.  It’s a push.
    2)     A player, while dribbling can fumble the ball all the way down the court legally.  As long as it’s not intentional.  It is impossible to travel if you don’t have control of the ball.  It’s ugly but we have no call for ugly.
    3)     A dribbler who lets the ball bounce high, even over their head has not “carried” the ball.  It is a high dribble.  As long as the hand doesn’t go under to “carry” or come to rest in the hand, the dribble is legal.
    4)     Three seconds in the key.  This only applies while the ball is in the front court.  “If a player has been in for less than three seconds and dribbles in or attempts a goal no call should be made”. 
    The three second count restarts on every shot attempt and doesn’t start until the team has control of the rebound.  So yes, a player could be in the key for 10 or more seconds if attempts are being made to score.
    5)     A player diving for a lose-ball, even once securing the ball, can slide any distance without traveling.  It is only if the player rolls over to avoid a defender or attempts to get up without dribbling that a violation occurs.
    6)     A “box out” is securing a position on the floor.  Displacement is pushing somebody off a position and is illegal.  A player can not crash into an opponent as a box out.  That is a foul.
    7)     A kick violation was changed to an intentional act, so if a player throws the ball off a foot or a leg it is not a violation.  Only an intentional kick is a violation.
    😎     The definition of a foul is: Illegal contact, on an opponent, during a live ball, that hinders their ability to make an offensive or defensive play. 
    Therefore:
    1)     A moving screen with no contact is not illegal.  An illegal screen is when a player does not set a legal screen and makes contact or once contact is made, then makes illegal contact.
    2)     Not all contact is a foul. There can be contact that doesn’t “hinder” a player’s ability to make the play. High school athletes can play through some contact.
    9)     A player does not have to be “set” to take a charge.  Once “legal guarding position” is established, the defender can move sideways, backwards and even jump and still be legal.    (Legal Guarding Position = both feet on the floor facing their opponent)
    10)  All four sides of the backboard are in bounds (on a square backboard).  The ball can legally bounce on the top of the backboard, roll on the top and fall into the basket and be a good goal.  Over the backboard from either side or touching any of the support straps, springs or cables cause the ball to be out of bounds
    These are the top 10 rules that are misunderstood. There are plenty more, but this is a good start
    Let’s all make an effort to keep the kids playing.  We need your help. 
    Keep It Positive!  Please.
  21. Thanks
    watup got a reaction from itsme2 in SETX Officiating - A Victim of an Official Shortage or an Epidemic of Incompetence   
    Open letter to: Fans, parents; players, coaches and AD’s.
    Keep It Positive!
    You may or may not know we are having a shortage of officials.  Veteran officials are leaving the game and younger officials are hard to recruit.
    There are many reasons but one of the biggest concerns is, in game behavior towards officials.
    As a reminder, this is not our job.  We do it for the game, we do it for the players; we do it for your children.  Yes, we get paid, but for $45 to $70 would you leave work at 5PM, drive an hour away, do a 7:30 game and get home between 9:00 and 10:30, 4 to 5 nights a week?  And, have people you never met, yell when you make a call or don’t make a call.  Did I mention we have to pay annual fees and dues to the state and local associations?  Did I mention we must also attend a number of on-line and local association meetings?  And of course, buy uniforms.  Would you give up your Friday and Saturday nights for four months for my child?
    Yes, some officials are not the most fleet of foot, some are still learning, and some are just not that good, but they are still out there so your children can play.  You’re not going to get NCAA officials for your junior high school game.  What you get, is a dedicated; passionate person who loves the game.
    Shooters don’t make every shot. Football players miss tackles and hold.  In MLB baseball the three statistics always shown are Runs, Hits and ERRORS.  Yes Errors.  The best athletes in the world make mistakes.  And so do officials, we are human.  The world will not end because of a missed travel.
    Imagine doing your job and every 3 minutes, a stranger looks over your shoulder and tells you “You’re horrible”. “You’re doing it wrong”.  They may be right, but could you work under those conditions? Would you want to?  And it’s become more physical.  Just last week alone, there were two incidents where parent fans attacked officials.  One was a Tennessee senator!
    What makes it worse, is when those people yelling at you have no idea what your job is.
    The reason for this letter is to ask for a commitment.  If we don’t make changes, youth sports may be in serious trouble.  The average high school official is 58 years old.  Many games had to be cancelled the last two years due to shortage of officials.
    If you’re a parent or a fan, support the players, cheer for them. Just because you paid your $6.00 doesn’t give you the right to scream and yell obscenities to the officials.  Cheer for your team.  Keep it positive.
    If you’re a player, ask your parents to behave, have better social skills.  It’s embarrassing to the child when we have to remove a player’s parent.  If you want to make a difference, when you’re done with school, become an official we need them.
    If you’re a coach or AD, lead by example.  Respect the officials, give feedback to your assignors we will work on improving their skills.  Demand your parents sign a Code of Conduct at your parent’s meetings.   As simple as, “We understand if anyone is anything but positive, to opposing teams, fans or officials, they will be removed from the event.  The second time they will be banned for the season”.  Remind them every pre-game. Then please enforce it. Zero tolerance.
    We hear all the time, “the gym and athletics are an extension of the classroom”. Would you let these things happen in “your” class?  We can’t allow it to continue.  We have 15 minutes of warm up, make the announcement.  AT EVERY GAME.  I know no one wants to be the bad guy but their behavior is what caused it.  By letting this behavior continue it’s only going to get worse. Set the example.
    I am committed to you, to continue to educate officials. I am asking you to commit to helping us keep them on the court.
    One of the many reasons fans and even coaches yell and scream, is that they don’t understand NFHS rules.
    What you see on TV is not National Federation High School rules.  There are at least 5 sets of different rules, between the pro and high school levels.  So let me start with a few simple top 10 rules that many people don’t understand, and we hear them every night.  Feel free to share these at your parent meetings or send home or give to your players.
     
    1)     Over the Back- There is no foul for “over the back”.  Over the back means a taller player reached over and secured the ball.  Over the back is legal.  On the back or pushing through the back to get a ball is illegal.  It’s a push.
    2)     A player, while dribbling can fumble the ball all the way down the court legally.  As long as it’s not intentional.  It is impossible to travel if you don’t have control of the ball.  It’s ugly but we have no call for ugly.
    3)     A dribbler who lets the ball bounce high, even over their head has not “carried” the ball.  It is a high dribble.  As long as the hand doesn’t go under to “carry” or come to rest in the hand, the dribble is legal.
    4)     Three seconds in the key.  This only applies while the ball is in the front court.  “If a player has been in for less than three seconds and dribbles in or attempts a goal no call should be made”. 
    The three second count restarts on every shot attempt and doesn’t start until the team has control of the rebound.  So yes, a player could be in the key for 10 or more seconds if attempts are being made to score.
    5)     A player diving for a lose-ball, even once securing the ball, can slide any distance without traveling.  It is only if the player rolls over to avoid a defender or attempts to get up without dribbling that a violation occurs.
    6)     A “box out” is securing a position on the floor.  Displacement is pushing somebody off a position and is illegal.  A player can not crash into an opponent as a box out.  That is a foul.
    7)     A kick violation was changed to an intentional act, so if a player throws the ball off a foot or a leg it is not a violation.  Only an intentional kick is a violation.
    😎     The definition of a foul is: Illegal contact, on an opponent, during a live ball, that hinders their ability to make an offensive or defensive play. 
    Therefore:
    1)     A moving screen with no contact is not illegal.  An illegal screen is when a player does not set a legal screen and makes contact or once contact is made, then makes illegal contact.
    2)     Not all contact is a foul. There can be contact that doesn’t “hinder” a player’s ability to make the play. High school athletes can play through some contact.
    9)     A player does not have to be “set” to take a charge.  Once “legal guarding position” is established, the defender can move sideways, backwards and even jump and still be legal.    (Legal Guarding Position = both feet on the floor facing their opponent)
    10)  All four sides of the backboard are in bounds (on a square backboard).  The ball can legally bounce on the top of the backboard, roll on the top and fall into the basket and be a good goal.  Over the backboard from either side or touching any of the support straps, springs or cables cause the ball to be out of bounds
    These are the top 10 rules that are misunderstood. There are plenty more, but this is a good start
    Let’s all make an effort to keep the kids playing.  We need your help. 
    Keep It Positive!  Please.
  22. Like
    watup got a reaction from STiger85 in SETX Officiating - A Victim of an Official Shortage or an Epidemic of Incompetence   
    Open letter to: Fans, parents; players, coaches and AD’s.
    Keep It Positive!
    You may or may not know we are having a shortage of officials.  Veteran officials are leaving the game and younger officials are hard to recruit.
    There are many reasons but one of the biggest concerns is, in game behavior towards officials.
    As a reminder, this is not our job.  We do it for the game, we do it for the players; we do it for your children.  Yes, we get paid, but for $45 to $70 would you leave work at 5PM, drive an hour away, do a 7:30 game and get home between 9:00 and 10:30, 4 to 5 nights a week?  And, have people you never met, yell when you make a call or don’t make a call.  Did I mention we have to pay annual fees and dues to the state and local associations?  Did I mention we must also attend a number of on-line and local association meetings?  And of course, buy uniforms.  Would you give up your Friday and Saturday nights for four months for my child?
    Yes, some officials are not the most fleet of foot, some are still learning, and some are just not that good, but they are still out there so your children can play.  You’re not going to get NCAA officials for your junior high school game.  What you get, is a dedicated; passionate person who loves the game.
    Shooters don’t make every shot. Football players miss tackles and hold.  In MLB baseball the three statistics always shown are Runs, Hits and ERRORS.  Yes Errors.  The best athletes in the world make mistakes.  And so do officials, we are human.  The world will not end because of a missed travel.
    Imagine doing your job and every 3 minutes, a stranger looks over your shoulder and tells you “You’re horrible”. “You’re doing it wrong”.  They may be right, but could you work under those conditions? Would you want to?  And it’s become more physical.  Just last week alone, there were two incidents where parent fans attacked officials.  One was a Tennessee senator!
    What makes it worse, is when those people yelling at you have no idea what your job is.
    The reason for this letter is to ask for a commitment.  If we don’t make changes, youth sports may be in serious trouble.  The average high school official is 58 years old.  Many games had to be cancelled the last two years due to shortage of officials.
    If you’re a parent or a fan, support the players, cheer for them. Just because you paid your $6.00 doesn’t give you the right to scream and yell obscenities to the officials.  Cheer for your team.  Keep it positive.
    If you’re a player, ask your parents to behave, have better social skills.  It’s embarrassing to the child when we have to remove a player’s parent.  If you want to make a difference, when you’re done with school, become an official we need them.
    If you’re a coach or AD, lead by example.  Respect the officials, give feedback to your assignors we will work on improving their skills.  Demand your parents sign a Code of Conduct at your parent’s meetings.   As simple as, “We understand if anyone is anything but positive, to opposing teams, fans or officials, they will be removed from the event.  The second time they will be banned for the season”.  Remind them every pre-game. Then please enforce it. Zero tolerance.
    We hear all the time, “the gym and athletics are an extension of the classroom”. Would you let these things happen in “your” class?  We can’t allow it to continue.  We have 15 minutes of warm up, make the announcement.  AT EVERY GAME.  I know no one wants to be the bad guy but their behavior is what caused it.  By letting this behavior continue it’s only going to get worse. Set the example.
    I am committed to you, to continue to educate officials. I am asking you to commit to helping us keep them on the court.
    One of the many reasons fans and even coaches yell and scream, is that they don’t understand NFHS rules.
    What you see on TV is not National Federation High School rules.  There are at least 5 sets of different rules, between the pro and high school levels.  So let me start with a few simple top 10 rules that many people don’t understand, and we hear them every night.  Feel free to share these at your parent meetings or send home or give to your players.
     
    1)     Over the Back- There is no foul for “over the back”.  Over the back means a taller player reached over and secured the ball.  Over the back is legal.  On the back or pushing through the back to get a ball is illegal.  It’s a push.
    2)     A player, while dribbling can fumble the ball all the way down the court legally.  As long as it’s not intentional.  It is impossible to travel if you don’t have control of the ball.  It’s ugly but we have no call for ugly.
    3)     A dribbler who lets the ball bounce high, even over their head has not “carried” the ball.  It is a high dribble.  As long as the hand doesn’t go under to “carry” or come to rest in the hand, the dribble is legal.
    4)     Three seconds in the key.  This only applies while the ball is in the front court.  “If a player has been in for less than three seconds and dribbles in or attempts a goal no call should be made”. 
    The three second count restarts on every shot attempt and doesn’t start until the team has control of the rebound.  So yes, a player could be in the key for 10 or more seconds if attempts are being made to score.
    5)     A player diving for a lose-ball, even once securing the ball, can slide any distance without traveling.  It is only if the player rolls over to avoid a defender or attempts to get up without dribbling that a violation occurs.
    6)     A “box out” is securing a position on the floor.  Displacement is pushing somebody off a position and is illegal.  A player can not crash into an opponent as a box out.  That is a foul.
    7)     A kick violation was changed to an intentional act, so if a player throws the ball off a foot or a leg it is not a violation.  Only an intentional kick is a violation.
    😎     The definition of a foul is: Illegal contact, on an opponent, during a live ball, that hinders their ability to make an offensive or defensive play. 
    Therefore:
    1)     A moving screen with no contact is not illegal.  An illegal screen is when a player does not set a legal screen and makes contact or once contact is made, then makes illegal contact.
    2)     Not all contact is a foul. There can be contact that doesn’t “hinder” a player’s ability to make the play. High school athletes can play through some contact.
    9)     A player does not have to be “set” to take a charge.  Once “legal guarding position” is established, the defender can move sideways, backwards and even jump and still be legal.    (Legal Guarding Position = both feet on the floor facing their opponent)
    10)  All four sides of the backboard are in bounds (on a square backboard).  The ball can legally bounce on the top of the backboard, roll on the top and fall into the basket and be a good goal.  Over the backboard from either side or touching any of the support straps, springs or cables cause the ball to be out of bounds
    These are the top 10 rules that are misunderstood. There are plenty more, but this is a good start
    Let’s all make an effort to keep the kids playing.  We need your help. 
    Keep It Positive!  Please.
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    watup reacted to Knox34 in SETX Officiating - A Victim of an Official Shortage or an Epidemic of Incompetence   
    Great post!! Can’t stand all the whining at games. The officials get zero respect from fans which teaches our kids they shouldn’t respect the officials. 
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    watup got a reaction from bullets13 in SETX Officiating - A Victim of an Official Shortage or an Epidemic of Incompetence   
    Open letter to: Fans, parents; players, coaches and AD’s.
    Keep It Positive!
    You may or may not know we are having a shortage of officials.  Veteran officials are leaving the game and younger officials are hard to recruit.
    There are many reasons but one of the biggest concerns is, in game behavior towards officials.
    As a reminder, this is not our job.  We do it for the game, we do it for the players; we do it for your children.  Yes, we get paid, but for $45 to $70 would you leave work at 5PM, drive an hour away, do a 7:30 game and get home between 9:00 and 10:30, 4 to 5 nights a week?  And, have people you never met, yell when you make a call or don’t make a call.  Did I mention we have to pay annual fees and dues to the state and local associations?  Did I mention we must also attend a number of on-line and local association meetings?  And of course, buy uniforms.  Would you give up your Friday and Saturday nights for four months for my child?
    Yes, some officials are not the most fleet of foot, some are still learning, and some are just not that good, but they are still out there so your children can play.  You’re not going to get NCAA officials for your junior high school game.  What you get, is a dedicated; passionate person who loves the game.
    Shooters don’t make every shot. Football players miss tackles and hold.  In MLB baseball the three statistics always shown are Runs, Hits and ERRORS.  Yes Errors.  The best athletes in the world make mistakes.  And so do officials, we are human.  The world will not end because of a missed travel.
    Imagine doing your job and every 3 minutes, a stranger looks over your shoulder and tells you “You’re horrible”. “You’re doing it wrong”.  They may be right, but could you work under those conditions? Would you want to?  And it’s become more physical.  Just last week alone, there were two incidents where parent fans attacked officials.  One was a Tennessee senator!
    What makes it worse, is when those people yelling at you have no idea what your job is.
    The reason for this letter is to ask for a commitment.  If we don’t make changes, youth sports may be in serious trouble.  The average high school official is 58 years old.  Many games had to be cancelled the last two years due to shortage of officials.
    If you’re a parent or a fan, support the players, cheer for them. Just because you paid your $6.00 doesn’t give you the right to scream and yell obscenities to the officials.  Cheer for your team.  Keep it positive.
    If you’re a player, ask your parents to behave, have better social skills.  It’s embarrassing to the child when we have to remove a player’s parent.  If you want to make a difference, when you’re done with school, become an official we need them.
    If you’re a coach or AD, lead by example.  Respect the officials, give feedback to your assignors we will work on improving their skills.  Demand your parents sign a Code of Conduct at your parent’s meetings.   As simple as, “We understand if anyone is anything but positive, to opposing teams, fans or officials, they will be removed from the event.  The second time they will be banned for the season”.  Remind them every pre-game. Then please enforce it. Zero tolerance.
    We hear all the time, “the gym and athletics are an extension of the classroom”. Would you let these things happen in “your” class?  We can’t allow it to continue.  We have 15 minutes of warm up, make the announcement.  AT EVERY GAME.  I know no one wants to be the bad guy but their behavior is what caused it.  By letting this behavior continue it’s only going to get worse. Set the example.
    I am committed to you, to continue to educate officials. I am asking you to commit to helping us keep them on the court.
    One of the many reasons fans and even coaches yell and scream, is that they don’t understand NFHS rules.
    What you see on TV is not National Federation High School rules.  There are at least 5 sets of different rules, between the pro and high school levels.  So let me start with a few simple top 10 rules that many people don’t understand, and we hear them every night.  Feel free to share these at your parent meetings or send home or give to your players.
     
    1)     Over the Back- There is no foul for “over the back”.  Over the back means a taller player reached over and secured the ball.  Over the back is legal.  On the back or pushing through the back to get a ball is illegal.  It’s a push.
    2)     A player, while dribbling can fumble the ball all the way down the court legally.  As long as it’s not intentional.  It is impossible to travel if you don’t have control of the ball.  It’s ugly but we have no call for ugly.
    3)     A dribbler who lets the ball bounce high, even over their head has not “carried” the ball.  It is a high dribble.  As long as the hand doesn’t go under to “carry” or come to rest in the hand, the dribble is legal.
    4)     Three seconds in the key.  This only applies while the ball is in the front court.  “If a player has been in for less than three seconds and dribbles in or attempts a goal no call should be made”. 
    The three second count restarts on every shot attempt and doesn’t start until the team has control of the rebound.  So yes, a player could be in the key for 10 or more seconds if attempts are being made to score.
    5)     A player diving for a lose-ball, even once securing the ball, can slide any distance without traveling.  It is only if the player rolls over to avoid a defender or attempts to get up without dribbling that a violation occurs.
    6)     A “box out” is securing a position on the floor.  Displacement is pushing somebody off a position and is illegal.  A player can not crash into an opponent as a box out.  That is a foul.
    7)     A kick violation was changed to an intentional act, so if a player throws the ball off a foot or a leg it is not a violation.  Only an intentional kick is a violation.
    😎     The definition of a foul is: Illegal contact, on an opponent, during a live ball, that hinders their ability to make an offensive or defensive play. 
    Therefore:
    1)     A moving screen with no contact is not illegal.  An illegal screen is when a player does not set a legal screen and makes contact or once contact is made, then makes illegal contact.
    2)     Not all contact is a foul. There can be contact that doesn’t “hinder” a player’s ability to make the play. High school athletes can play through some contact.
    9)     A player does not have to be “set” to take a charge.  Once “legal guarding position” is established, the defender can move sideways, backwards and even jump and still be legal.    (Legal Guarding Position = both feet on the floor facing their opponent)
    10)  All four sides of the backboard are in bounds (on a square backboard).  The ball can legally bounce on the top of the backboard, roll on the top and fall into the basket and be a good goal.  Over the backboard from either side or touching any of the support straps, springs or cables cause the ball to be out of bounds
    These are the top 10 rules that are misunderstood. There are plenty more, but this is a good start
    Let’s all make an effort to keep the kids playing.  We need your help. 
    Keep It Positive!  Please.
  25. Like
    watup got a reaction from KF89 in SETX Officiating - A Victim of an Official Shortage or an Epidemic of Incompetence   
    Open letter to: Fans, parents; players, coaches and AD’s.
    Keep It Positive!
    You may or may not know we are having a shortage of officials.  Veteran officials are leaving the game and younger officials are hard to recruit.
    There are many reasons but one of the biggest concerns is, in game behavior towards officials.
    As a reminder, this is not our job.  We do it for the game, we do it for the players; we do it for your children.  Yes, we get paid, but for $45 to $70 would you leave work at 5PM, drive an hour away, do a 7:30 game and get home between 9:00 and 10:30, 4 to 5 nights a week?  And, have people you never met, yell when you make a call or don’t make a call.  Did I mention we have to pay annual fees and dues to the state and local associations?  Did I mention we must also attend a number of on-line and local association meetings?  And of course, buy uniforms.  Would you give up your Friday and Saturday nights for four months for my child?
    Yes, some officials are not the most fleet of foot, some are still learning, and some are just not that good, but they are still out there so your children can play.  You’re not going to get NCAA officials for your junior high school game.  What you get, is a dedicated; passionate person who loves the game.
    Shooters don’t make every shot. Football players miss tackles and hold.  In MLB baseball the three statistics always shown are Runs, Hits and ERRORS.  Yes Errors.  The best athletes in the world make mistakes.  And so do officials, we are human.  The world will not end because of a missed travel.
    Imagine doing your job and every 3 minutes, a stranger looks over your shoulder and tells you “You’re horrible”. “You’re doing it wrong”.  They may be right, but could you work under those conditions? Would you want to?  And it’s become more physical.  Just last week alone, there were two incidents where parent fans attacked officials.  One was a Tennessee senator!
    What makes it worse, is when those people yelling at you have no idea what your job is.
    The reason for this letter is to ask for a commitment.  If we don’t make changes, youth sports may be in serious trouble.  The average high school official is 58 years old.  Many games had to be cancelled the last two years due to shortage of officials.
    If you’re a parent or a fan, support the players, cheer for them. Just because you paid your $6.00 doesn’t give you the right to scream and yell obscenities to the officials.  Cheer for your team.  Keep it positive.
    If you’re a player, ask your parents to behave, have better social skills.  It’s embarrassing to the child when we have to remove a player’s parent.  If you want to make a difference, when you’re done with school, become an official we need them.
    If you’re a coach or AD, lead by example.  Respect the officials, give feedback to your assignors we will work on improving their skills.  Demand your parents sign a Code of Conduct at your parent’s meetings.   As simple as, “We understand if anyone is anything but positive, to opposing teams, fans or officials, they will be removed from the event.  The second time they will be banned for the season”.  Remind them every pre-game. Then please enforce it. Zero tolerance.
    We hear all the time, “the gym and athletics are an extension of the classroom”. Would you let these things happen in “your” class?  We can’t allow it to continue.  We have 15 minutes of warm up, make the announcement.  AT EVERY GAME.  I know no one wants to be the bad guy but their behavior is what caused it.  By letting this behavior continue it’s only going to get worse. Set the example.
    I am committed to you, to continue to educate officials. I am asking you to commit to helping us keep them on the court.
    One of the many reasons fans and even coaches yell and scream, is that they don’t understand NFHS rules.
    What you see on TV is not National Federation High School rules.  There are at least 5 sets of different rules, between the pro and high school levels.  So let me start with a few simple top 10 rules that many people don’t understand, and we hear them every night.  Feel free to share these at your parent meetings or send home or give to your players.
     
    1)     Over the Back- There is no foul for “over the back”.  Over the back means a taller player reached over and secured the ball.  Over the back is legal.  On the back or pushing through the back to get a ball is illegal.  It’s a push.
    2)     A player, while dribbling can fumble the ball all the way down the court legally.  As long as it’s not intentional.  It is impossible to travel if you don’t have control of the ball.  It’s ugly but we have no call for ugly.
    3)     A dribbler who lets the ball bounce high, even over their head has not “carried” the ball.  It is a high dribble.  As long as the hand doesn’t go under to “carry” or come to rest in the hand, the dribble is legal.
    4)     Three seconds in the key.  This only applies while the ball is in the front court.  “If a player has been in for less than three seconds and dribbles in or attempts a goal no call should be made”. 
    The three second count restarts on every shot attempt and doesn’t start until the team has control of the rebound.  So yes, a player could be in the key for 10 or more seconds if attempts are being made to score.
    5)     A player diving for a lose-ball, even once securing the ball, can slide any distance without traveling.  It is only if the player rolls over to avoid a defender or attempts to get up without dribbling that a violation occurs.
    6)     A “box out” is securing a position on the floor.  Displacement is pushing somebody off a position and is illegal.  A player can not crash into an opponent as a box out.  That is a foul.
    7)     A kick violation was changed to an intentional act, so if a player throws the ball off a foot or a leg it is not a violation.  Only an intentional kick is a violation.
    😎     The definition of a foul is: Illegal contact, on an opponent, during a live ball, that hinders their ability to make an offensive or defensive play. 
    Therefore:
    1)     A moving screen with no contact is not illegal.  An illegal screen is when a player does not set a legal screen and makes contact or once contact is made, then makes illegal contact.
    2)     Not all contact is a foul. There can be contact that doesn’t “hinder” a player’s ability to make the play. High school athletes can play through some contact.
    9)     A player does not have to be “set” to take a charge.  Once “legal guarding position” is established, the defender can move sideways, backwards and even jump and still be legal.    (Legal Guarding Position = both feet on the floor facing their opponent)
    10)  All four sides of the backboard are in bounds (on a square backboard).  The ball can legally bounce on the top of the backboard, roll on the top and fall into the basket and be a good goal.  Over the backboard from either side or touching any of the support straps, springs or cables cause the ball to be out of bounds
    These are the top 10 rules that are misunderstood. There are plenty more, but this is a good start
    Let’s all make an effort to keep the kids playing.  We need your help. 
    Keep It Positive!  Please.
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