The Save Act

[UT alum]

15 hours ago, Porter said:

We have the most ridiculous corrupt voting system in the world and it’s not even close. It has literally turn into a voting season with all the time that is allotted to vote much less the piss poor verification process. It’s almost to the point of being theater when it’s time to vote. You keep believing your nonsense when it comes to fair elections. I promise you that you will never convince me so don’t waste your time. 

Whether or not I’ll convince you makes you no less wrong.

[UT alum]

2 hours ago, baddog said:

Even their white privilege failed them. Voter suppression at its finest.

I can accept voter ID. Citizenship proof at registration is unAmerican.

[UT alum]

14 hours ago, Porter said:

Yep and the NGO’s fund this nonsense. Of course when I say NGO’s I mean the taxpayers fund it. Our government is nothing more than money laundering organization. This is why we are almost bankrupt and all our politicians do is sit around and talk about it. I already had a suspicion of this but listen to this clip. 14 TRILLION DOLLARS!!!!

 

What is he even talking about?  Sounds like she’s been at the bar too long.

[SmashMouth]

I don't have a problem having to show a common ID and proving that I'm eligible to vote. I think that is a must. But this is getting a bit ludicrous. What does having to show a passport or birth certificate accomplish? Does anyone here think it solidifies a person is who they say they are? Do we really believe that these forms of ID (especially birth certificates) are not easily forged or falsified?

I don't think this SAVE Act is intentional voter suppression, although I think it could have that effect. I think it's more like the political right saying, "Hey look what we did! They stole the election, and we are going to fix it!" It's a dollar store band-aid at best.

And the Left cries "VOTER SUPPRESSION!". But if they hadn't tried to open the borders to illegals in order to garner more votes, if they hadn't been caught with their hand in the cookie jar on numerous occasions and if they would agree to simple voter ID (not the SAVE Act), then this whole SAVE Act thing would never have been an issue.

Asking for proof of identification at the ballot box, a precaution deemed necessary when buying alcohol or boarding an airplane and many other common instances, hardly seems inappropriate.

Nor does it seem outlandish for states to routinely inspect their voter rolls to detect and purge inaccurate and out-of-date registrations, a requirement under the National Voter Registration Act.

But, for me, the SAVE Act is unnecessary. It really doesn't accomplish what we want to believe it will.

 

[TheMissingBand]

34 minutes ago, SmashMouth said:

I don't have a problem having to show a common ID and proving that I'm eligible to vote. I think that is a must. But this is getting a bit ludicrous. What does having to show a passport or birth certificate accomplish? Does anyone here think it solidifies a person is who they say they are? Do we really believe that these forms of ID (especially birth certificates) are not easily forged or falsified?

I don't think this SAVE Act is intentional voter suppression, although I think it could have that effect. I think it's more like the political right saying, "Hey look what we did! They stole the election, and we are going to fix it!" It's a dollar store band-aid at best.

And the Left cries "VOTER SUPPRESSION!". But if they hadn't tried to open the borders to illegals in order to garner more votes, if they hadn't been caught with their hand in the cookie jar on numerous occasions and if they would agree to simple voter ID (not the SAVE Act), then this whole SAVE Act thing would never have been an issue.

Asking for proof of identification at the ballot box, a precaution deemed necessary when buying alcohol or boarding an airplane and many other common instances, hardly seems inappropriate.

Nor does it seem outlandish for states to routinely inspect their voter rolls to detect and purge inaccurate and out-of-date registrations, a requirement under the National Voter Registration Act.

But, for me, the SAVE Act is unnecessary. It really doesn't accomplish what we want to believe it will.

 

And how you would like to be an election worker when some grumpy old white dude who had to leave his maga hat in the Crown Vic finds out that he can’t vote because he didn’t re-register, and has to come up with a birth certificate or more to be registered for the next go-round?

[SmashMouth]

6 minutes ago, TheMissingBand said:

And how you would like to be an election worker when some grumpy old white dude who had to leave his maga hat in the Crown Vic finds out that he can’t vote because he didn’t re-register, and has to come up with a birth certificate or more to be registered for the next go-round?

On that note, I'm looking for a Crown Vic - old 90's police interceptor style if anyone has one hanging around.

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16 hours ago, thetragichippy said:

I had to get a copy of my Son’s BC for something to do with sports, and I went to DT beaumont and it took 30 minutes.  It was easier than getting my DL renewed when I couldn’t do it online

Everyone’s not from Jefferson County. Around 13,000,000 of us Texans were born in another state.

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[SmashMouth]

4 minutes ago, UT alum said:

Around 13,000,000 of us Texans were born in another state.

13 million... State? Don't you mean born in another country? Lmao. Sorry, I could not resist.

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1 hour ago, SmashMouth said:

13 million... State? Don't you mean born in another country? Lmao. Sorry, I could not resist.

I saw it coming, believe me

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Maybe a birth certificate isn't the worst idea?

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Maybe a birth certificate isn't the worst idea?

Of course it doesn't stop a fake birth certificate. It only stops the legal honest people in my opinion.

[thetragichippy]

2 hours ago, UT alum said:

Everyone’s not from Jefferson County. Around 13,000,000 of us Texans were born in another state.

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But everyone has a brain right?  That would include all demographics, right?

I have faith that anyone 18 or older can figure out how to obtain what they need to vote. 

Funny story - My son at 18 figured out how to obtain a drivers license claiming he was 22 from China that actually scanned.....What he didn't count on is me illegally opening his mail.....lol  The funny part, it was not really to use to drink, but to go to a casino......

[thetragichippy]

11 minutes ago, SmashMouth said:

Of course it doesn't stop a fake birth certificate. It only stops the legal honest people in my opinion.

It is another layer of security.....

Democrats, some on this forum, claimed in 2020 that walls/fences didn't work.  The Biden administration claimed that as they put a fence around the white house.  You could use that claim that locks don't work.....People put metal front doors on their home and feel secure, while they have 37 windows on their homes that could be broken into in a matter of seconds.

Layers of security will help prevent fraud......but as we get smarter, so do the crooks.....

Apparently the only ones that don't get smart are women and poor folks who can't figure out how to change their names....

[SmashMouth]

5 minutes ago, thetragichippy said:

It is another layer of security.....

Democrats, some on this forum, claimed in 2020 that walls/fences didn't work.  The Biden administration claimed that as they put a fence around the white house.  You could use that claim that locks don't work.....People put metal front doors on their home and feel secure, while they have 37 windows on their homes that could be broken into in a matter of seconds.

Layers of security will help prevent fraud......but as we get smarter, so do the crooks.....

Apparently the only ones that don't get smart are women and poor folks who can't figure out how to change their names....

One could say DNA testing could be used instead. It would definitely be more effective. But it's over the top and, quite frankly, is unwarranted. 

Anyone can fake a birth record with minimal effort. But our political "leaders" come up with stupid crap that for some reason we blindly jump on board with thinking, "Yeah, that'll show 'em!" But it doesn't do anything if someone really wants to cheat the system. All it really does is muddy the water and give the other side a chance to claim SUPPRESSION! RACISM! 

Hell, let's cut the crap and just start getting chipped.

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7 minutes ago, SmashMouth said:

One could say DNA testing could be used instead. It would definitely be more effective. But it's over the top and, quite frankly, is unwarranted. 

Anyone can fake a birth record with minimal effort. But our political "leaders" come up with stupid crap that for some reason we blindly jump on board with thinking, "Yeah, that'll show 'em!" But it doesn't do anything if someone really wants to cheat the system. All it really does is muddy the water and give the other side a chance to claim SUPPRESSION! RACISM! 

Hell, let's cut the crap and just start getting chipped.

Don’t give ‘em ideas…

[baddog]

What’s sad is that real Americans are trying to find ways to keep “outsiders” out of our elections. One would think the dems would be on board with that notion since they spent years and millions of taxpayer dollars trying to prove Russian collusion. So if Russians had made a mass migration into the US under Biden’s open border policies, they could vote, but let them “influence” our elections, the dems would cry foul. Someone make that make sense.