America Spends $7.8B Monthly On SNAP, Remove ILLEGALS From SNAP The Cost Would Reduce 70%!

[LumRaiderFan]

1 hour ago, AggiesAreWe said:

But the person who created this thread claimed the data was factual.

Reagan's reply to someone asking who was Mila Joy, "The one stating the facts!"

So what you are saying is folks like Reagan post threads just to get discussion going, regardless if the subject of the thread is factual.

Got it.

Not sure why we need that kind of discussion here.

I guess I should be used to Reagan flooding the forum with the opinion pieces from the right.

This place is getting very depressing.

Reagan can make his own argument and IF they weren’t facts, simply dispute them with the real facts.

There are several things that could depress me, but a sports forum (even being the best one ), ain’t one of them, lol.

[OlDawg]

1 hour ago, Porter said:

No doubt AI has to be fed truth or it will cause confusion on social media. Elon Musk harps on the must of feeding AI truth. 

 

AI still has too many issues right now. People who use it without back-checking are foolish. As an example, type in the below two questions EXACTLY as typed:

1. How many illegal aliens in Texas 2025?
2. How many undocumented immigrants in Texas 2025?

We know the questions are asking about the exact same subset of the population. But, the AI answers—and sources—you receive will be quite different. AI isn’t smart enough to figure that out. It’s merely going on key words. Not really intelligence in my book. A big misnomer.

[AggiesAreWe]

50 minutes ago, LumRaiderFan said:

Reagan can make his own argument and IF they weren’t facts, simply dispute them with the real facts.

There are several things that could depress me, but a sports forum (even being the best one ), ain’t one of them, lol.

Not talking about the sports part of this website. In fact, it's what pays the bills around here and keeps the website free.

If it were up to me........

[Reagan]

8 minutes ago, OlDawg said:

AI still has too many issues right now. People who use it without back-checking are foolish. As an example, type in the below two questions EXACTLY as typed:

1. How many illegal aliens in Texas 2025?
2. How many undocumented immigrants in Texas 2025?

We know the questions are asking about the exact same subset of the population. But, the AI answers—and sources—you receive will be quite different. AI isn’t smart enough to figure that out. It’s merely going on key words. Not really intelligence in my book. A big misnomer.

As I’ve stated before, I know for a fact that AI can get things wrong.  I have asked it things before that I knew for a fact were true and it gave a different answer.  So, you are right, you gotta watch it.  

[OlDawg]

36 minutes ago, AggiesAreWe said:

Not talking about the sports part of this website. In fact, it's what pays the bills around here and keeps the website free.

If it were up to me........

I like to think about political discourse like being a member of a church. If you only go to Christmas, Easter, and/or the occasional Sunday service, the church seems very typical of the community. I’d say that’s akin to the typical voter experience who only votes every 4 years.

Then, there’s the church member who is also a member of the steering and business committee of the church. This member sees the ugly underbelly of the church as a business. This can disillusion the member if they don’t remember the real reason they attend anyway. I’d say this is akin to the voter who is more informed, votes even in local elections, and participates in political discussions.

Both members are valuable to the congregation. One is much easier to deal with, and causes no qualms for the most part. But, the church couldn’t function without the more involved member.

There’s a need for a place to discuss politics, as unsettling as it may be sometimes. Many of the topics, I wouldn’t know anything about if it weren’t for this forum. This forum actually makes me investigate things. I become more informed, and whether I agree or not is irrelevant. That—to me—is a very big positive.

[bullets13]

13 hours ago, Porter said:

I don’t disagree with you but if the source bothers you then do some research and enlighten us all. 
 

This is an opinion platform. Whatever is posted is a good starting point for an individual to do their own research if they are curious enough to know if it is true. Left or Right everyone should do their own verification.

It’s lazy to  just throw out whatever numbers off of Twitter from whatever random user and then say “prove it wrong.” How about proving it right before you post, especially if you’re going to say it’s fact? 

[mat]

17 hours ago, UT alum said:

 

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I don’t put a lot of credibility to Regan’s post having factual data. By the same token your first link study was from 2013, and who is Propel and Julianna Lai?

[Porter]

2 hours ago, bullets13 said:

It’s lazy to  just throw out whatever numbers off of Twitter from whatever random user and then say “prove it wrong.” How about proving it right before you post, especially if you’re going to say it’s fact? 

It’s also lazy to not read this thread and know that I didn’t post the numbers and I also didn’t say that the numbers were fact. I said I wouldn’t be surprised if they accurate. Please tell us all where the one source of all truth comes from when it comes to actual real news worthy issues. 
 

And as far as Twitter is concerned I have seen a lot more truth come off Twitter than from our government officials and the mainstream media. A lot times Twitter is 6 months ahead of the mainstream media. 😂
 

If I am not mistaken I believe you posted a lot of disinformation about COVID numbers and how effective the vaccine was back when we were going through that nonsense. Look what’s come out since then as it pertains to that poison that was pushed upon the American people. So you may want to step down from behind your pulpit.

 

[bullets13]

51 minutes ago, Porter said:

It’s also lazy to not read this thread and know that I didn’t post the numbers and I also didn’t say that the numbers were fact. I said I wouldn’t be surprised if they accurate. Please tell us all where the one source of all truth comes from when it comes to actual real news worthy issues. 
 

And as far as Twitter is concerned I have seen a lot more truth come off Twitter than from our government officials and the mainstream media. A lot times Twitter is 6 months ahead of the mainstream media. 😂
 

If I am not mistaken I believe you posted a lot of disinformation about COVID numbers and how effective the vaccine was back when we were going through that nonsense. Look what’s come out since then as it pertains to that poison that was pushed upon the American people. So you may want to step down from behind your pulpit.

 

I wasn’t crediting you with the numbers posted. I was responding to your comment about them. And I’d step down from your vaccine pulpit. That’s way off topic here. 

[Porter]

7 minutes ago, bullets13 said:

I wasn’t crediting you with the numbers posted. I was responding to your comment about them. And I’d be real careful before you get back on your vaccine pulpit. That’s way off topic here. 

I am not on a vaccine pulpit. You brought up the legitimacy of Twitter and sources of information to be posted so I brought up your  inaccurate posts of the past about Covid. What does be real careful mean? Are you threatening me with something?

You failed to tell us where the one source of all truth comes from. We are waiting. Sounds like you do not like anyone questioning you but you like to question everyone else.

[bullets13]

7 minutes ago, Porter said:

I am not on a vaccine pulpit. You brought up the legitimacy of Twitter and sources of information to be posted so I brought up your  inaccurate posts of the past about Covid. What does be real careful mean? Are you threatening me with something?

You failed to tell us where the one source of all truth comes from. We are waiting. Sounds like you do not like anyone questioning you but you like to question everyone else.

The problem with posting tweets as fact is that literally anyone can post anything. The fact of the matter is, I agree with the sentiment of the original post. But that doesn’t mean it’s a legitimate source of information. And someone asking for an actual source for the numbers and being told “to prove it wrong” isn’t how debating works. 

[Porter]

5 minutes ago, bullets13 said:

The problem with posting tweets as fact is that literally anyone can post anything. The fact of the matter is, I agree with the sentiment of the original post. But that doesn’t mean it’s a legitimate source of information. And someone asking for an actual source for the numbers and being told “to prove it wrong” isn’t how debating works. 

Maybe I am missing something but I don’t believe the individual that made this post said this is fact. 
 

I am still waiting for you to give us all the ultimate source to go to in order to get truth and facts. Main stream media has failed, government officials have cooked the books and lied. 

[AggiesAreWe]

1 minute ago, Porter said:

Maybe I am missing something but I don’t believe the individual that made this post said this is fact. 
 

I am still waiting for you to give us all the ultimate source to go to in order to get truth and facts. Main stream media has failed, government officials have cooked the books and lied. 

Reagan (the originator of this thread) told the person that asked who was Mila Joy that she was the one stating facts.

[bullets13]

12 minutes ago, Porter said:

Maybe I am missing something but I don’t believe the individual that made this post said this is fact. 
 

I am still waiting for you to give us all the ultimate source to go to in order to get truth and facts. Main stream media has failed, government officials have cooked the books and lied. 

I don’t know. It’s hard to trust anything these days. But “some lady on Twitter” doesn’t seem like a good option either. 

[Porter]

12 minutes ago, AggiesAreWe said:

Reagan (the originator of this thread) told the person that asked who was Mila Joy that she was the one stating facts.

Ok, what did you find out about those numbers? I am not curious enough to look into it but it wouldn’t surprise me.

 

[AggiesAreWe]

2 minutes ago, Porter said:

Ok, what did you find out about those numbers? I am not curious enough to look into it but it wouldn’t surprise me.

 

Not curious enough myself.

[Porter]

5 minutes ago, bullets13 said:

I don’t know. It’s hard to trust anything these days. But “some lady on Twitter” doesn’t seem like a good option either. 

Well if you don’t know then I don’t know if it’s a good idea to be chastising people on here that post off twitter. I never heard of her before but the very little research I’ve done it looks like she’s pretty accurate in some things she’s posted.

[bullets13]

46 minutes ago, Porter said:

Well if you don’t know then I don’t know if it’s a good idea to be chastising people on here that post off twitter. I never heard of her before but the very little research I’ve done it looks like she’s pretty accurate in some things she’s posted.

Well, if through limited research Porter has determined that she’s pretty accurate sometimes, that oughta be good enough for everyone I guess. You’re falling back on the same “it’s up to other people to prove random stuff that’s posted on Twitter wrong” argument again. If her numbers are correct, Reagan should be able to find a real source for them. Or more importantly, why didn’t she post the source herself? Anyway, feel free to get the last word in so we can get back on topic. 

[nappyroots]

No, undocumented immigrants (often called "illegals") are not eligible for federal SNAP (food stamp) benefits; federal law prohibits them from receiving these benefits, though their U.S. citizen children may qualify for assistance within mixed-status households, and recent legislation (

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 immigrants' access too. SNAP eligibility focuses on U.S. citizens, nationals, and qualified legal permanent residents, with strict rules and waiting periods for many non-citizens, while state-funded programs or other benefits (like emergency Medicaid for health) might cover some ineligible groups. 

[LumRaiderFan]

3 minutes ago, bullets13 said:

Well, if through limited research Porter has determined that she’s pretty accurate sometimes, that oughta be good enough for everyone I guess. You’re falling back on the same “it’s up to other people to prove random stuff that’s posted on Twitter wrong” argument again. If her numbers are correct, Reagan should be able to find a real source for them. Or more importantly, why didn’t she post the source herself? 

So which news sources would you consider a REAL source?  Why is it that some “random” lady couldn’t possibly know the facts about something.

And you are wrong, if a post is made and you think it’s wrong, don’t simply bash the source, provide evidence that it is wrong. 
 

[LumRaiderFan]

10 minutes ago, nappyroots said:

No, undocumented immigrants (often called "illegals") are not eligible for federal SNAP (food stamp) benefits; federal law prohibits them from receiving these benefits, though their U.S. citizen children may qualify for assistance within mixed-status households, and recent legislation (

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 immigrants' access too. SNAP eligibility focuses on U.S. citizens, nationals, and qualified legal permanent residents, with strict rules and waiting periods for many non-citizens, while state-funded programs or other benefits (like emergency Medicaid for health) might cover some ineligible groups. 

Problem solved, they’re not eligible.

 

[AggiesAreWe]

10 minutes ago, LumRaiderFan said:

So which news sources would you consider a REAL source?  Why is it that some “random” lady couldn’t possibly know the facts about something.

And you are wrong, if a post is made and you think it’s wrong, don’t simply bash the source, provide evidence that it is wrong. 
 

But who is saying the data is wrong?

Maybe she is a blind hog that found an acorn.

I just think the subject matter would have more credibility than coming from a social media influencer (self titled btw). The "influencer" part is what sticks out to me. They don't really want to educate, just influence.

[LumRaiderFan]

5 minutes ago, AggiesAreWe said:

But who is saying the data is wrong?

Maybe she is a blind hog that found an acorn.

I just think the subject matter would have more credibility than coming from a social media influencer (self titled btw). The "influencer" part is what sticks out to me. They don't really want to educate, just influence.

Thanks for proving my point, she could be right.

Look at the information being posted and critique that before simply dismissing the source.

I’m not sure why this is so hard.

[baddog]

If I find a topic on Fox, I Google the topic to see if it is covered by msm because so many people hate Fox and their conservative lean, they will refuse to believe it, yet Fox still has better numbers than all the other news sources COMBINED. Funny what people will believe and for what reasons.

[AggiesAreWe]

3 minutes ago, LumRaiderFan said:

Thanks for proving my point, she could be right.

Look at the information being posted and critique that before simply dismissing the source.

I’m not sure why this is so hard.

But my point was it didn't matter to those on the right where this subject came from. It was something that supported that side, came from a MAGA supporter so therefore all of you guys took it as truth. Not one of you (other than baddog) cared to verify the data. You had no motivation to verify the data because that supports what you support. Just said prove it wrong. 

Even some said it didn't matter if Elmer Fudd posted the data. 

I am betting that had a lefty posted, some of you would have provided many sources to either verify or dispute. You would not have taken their word.

All I am saying, let's not be so blind. How about posting real sources and not leftwing or rightwing social media influencers.