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Was reading a thread on this game and there was a pretty big scuffle apparently on the Henderson sideline.  My question here is just a rule question, apparently A large number of the Henderson players crossed the 25 yard line leaving the team “box”and 10-15 Carthage players crossed the field into the fight area.  I am not going to make any speculations as to what happened, but should these players from both teams that left their team “box” have been ejected?  All that was done was double unsportsmanlikes were called. No ejections. Really only wanting the rule question answered, I am not going to get into a discussion on the fight didn’t see it not going to speculate but  this could have had a major impact on the rest of the playoffs.

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A coach or player that participates in a fight is subject to a game disqualification according to NCAA (and thus UIL rules).  However, the rule leaves vague as to what constitutes "participating in a a fight."  In reviewing the rules, I did not see a specific rule mandating ejection if a player leaves the team "box."

This is probably to give the officials leeway in restoring order.  And from what I gathered, order was restored and no further incidents of that magnitude occurred.  Of course, the UIL has the discretion to review the matter given that it was a playoff game, but that nothing really came of it, I don't see them doing so.

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2 hours ago, ST413 said:

Was reading a thread on this game and there was a pretty big scuffle apparently on the Henderson sideline.  My question here is just a rule question, apparently A large number of the Henderson players crossed the 25 yard line leaving the team “box”and 10-15 Carthage players crossed the field into the fight area.  I am not going to make any speculations as to what happened, but should these players from both teams that left their team “box” have been ejected?  All that was done was double unsportsmanlikes were called. No ejections. Really only wanting the rule question answered, I am not going to get into a discussion on the fight didn’t see it not going to speculate but  this could have had a major impact on the rest of the playoffs.

It was a pretty good brawl

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9 hours ago, ST413 said:

Haven’t found any but it sounded big.

56 minutes ago, ST413 said:

I think they had one called back that might have been it.  Either way I didn’t see the large number of Henderson players that I read about,  it didn’t really look as bad as what I read.

I agree I thought the LCM and Dayton fight actually looked worse

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I was watching the game on texanlive.com when it happened (wife is a Henderson graduate).  Henderson intercepted the pass and took it down the Henderson sideline.  DB for Henderson was tackled by Carthage all-world RB.  It was hard to make out what exactly happened on the sideline and the cameras cut away pretty quickly.  I have several contacts at the game (on the Henderson side mind you so it might be a slanted take on what happened), but those contacts were saying that Carthage running back took exception to Henderson celebrating, some pushing and shoving on the sideline, and then Carthage RB threw punches.  The swings brought both benches to the party but all that happened was unsportsmanlike on both teams (cheap way out by the officials but if they didn't see the swings, then they didn't see the swings).  If Carthage RB is ejected, its a completely different ball game, but I think Carthage still would have had too much for Henderson to keep up.  NOTE:  it was 7-0 Carthage when this happened and Henderson never scored.

Also, if punches were thrown and no ejections, UIL might be taking a look at the video in a lil more detail.

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