PhatMack19 Posted December 20, 2015 Report Posted December 20, 2015 I watched most of the games over the weekend and came away with 1 thought. It seems like playing great defense and the power running game was the ticket to a championship this year. Are the D coordinators figuring out the spread? I was surprised how these high flying spread offenses were totally shut down by good defenses. I love me some smash mouth football! It was good to see another team besides Katy succeed with that formula. smitty, Mr. Buddy Garrity, robanadana and 3 others 6 Quote
cowboysfan88 Posted December 20, 2015 Report Posted December 20, 2015 I said the same thing but Katy was the mastered on D this weekend like they been all yr Quote
77 Posted December 20, 2015 Report Posted December 20, 2015 That Katy defense may be the best high school defense I've seen! robanadana and Mr. Buddy Garrity 2 Quote
vp93 Posted December 20, 2015 Report Posted December 20, 2015 Yes, I love watching a hard hitting, and aggressive defenses take over a game. I was there for the last 5 games and the more physical team won all of them. WOS played agresive and hungry, capitalising when they saw the doubt in Celona. North Shore beat up on Westlake from the opening kick off. I have to add Ehlinger is a tough young man, taking hit after hit and kept looking for more. But it takes a toll on you after 3 quarters and the Mustangs owned the 4th and ot. Katy does what Katy does, hit you in the mouth every play. LT looked ready to throw the towel in by the 2nd qtr. Football is still a physical game. So, playing fundamentally sound and physical game will allow you to win a lot of games. robanadana and outanup 2 Quote
prepballfan Posted December 20, 2015 Report Posted December 20, 2015 You are right I was considereing making a similar post Quote
kicker Posted December 20, 2015 Report Posted December 20, 2015 Off subject here but I was posting about Location being important to SC Winners. Looks like sleeping in your own bed the night before your game is HUGE! Example: 2015 DFW 0-4 2015 6-0 I believe(could be wrong). Flip Flopped. WOS history, except for 1 game, 88, we win close but lose far from home.This could be a coincidence but take WOS for example.1986 SC- Won in Astrodome-1.5 hour drive1987 SC-Won at Kyle Field-2.5 hour drive.1988 SC- Lost at Kyle Field(I think it was Kyle field) 2.5 hour drive (Only ecxception)2000 SC- Lost at Texas Stadium-5+ hour drive2014 SC- Lost at ATT Stadium-5+hour drive2015 SC-Won at NRG-1.5 hour drive.Maybe someone can correct me if Im wrong but I believe 88 was at Kyle field. I remeber it being very cold and raining! robanadana, WOSgrad, Mr. Buddy Garrity and 1 other 4 Quote
Mr. Buddy Garrity Posted December 20, 2015 Report Posted December 20, 2015 Off subject here but I was posting about Location being important to SC Winners. Looks like sleeping in your own bed the night before your game is HUGE! Example: 2015 DFW 0-4 2015 6-0 I believe(could be wrong). Flip Flopped. WOS history, except for 1 game, 88, we win close but lose far from home.This could be a coincidence but take WOS for example.1986 SC- Won in Astrodome-1.5 hour drive1987 SC-Won at Kyle Field-2.5 hour drive.1988 SC- Lost at Kyle Field(I think it was Kyle field) 2.5 hour drive (Only ecxception)2000 SC- Lost at Texas Stadium-5+ hour drive2014 SC- Lost at ATT Stadium-5+hour drive2015 SC-Won at NRG-1.5 hour drive.Maybe someone can correct me if Im wrong but I believe 88 was at Kyle field. I remeber it being very cold and raining!+1000 MMstangfan and robanadana 2 Quote
MMstangfan Posted December 20, 2015 Report Posted December 20, 2015 (edited) Off subject here but I was posting about Location being important to SC Winners. Looks like sleeping in your own bed the night before your game is HUGE! Example: 2015 DFW 0-4 2015 6-0 I believe(could be wrong). Flip Flopped. WOS history, except for 1 game, 88, we win close but lose far from home.This could be a coincidence but take WOS for example.1986 SC- Won in Astrodome-1.5 hour drive1987 SC-Won at Kyle Field-2.5 hour drive.1988 SC- Lost at Kyle Field(I think it was Kyle field) 2.5 hour drive (Only ecxception)2000 SC- Lost at Texas Stadium-5+ hour drive2014 SC- Lost at ATT Stadium-5+hour drive2015 SC-Won at NRG-1.5 hour drive.Maybe someone can correct me if Im wrong but I believe 88 was at Kyle field. I remeber it being very cold and raining!I may be wrong also , but I think in 88 we went to Paris to play , lost a home / home flip . Of course I may be off my rocker again , done that on several posts this year. Edited December 20, 2015 by MMstangfan Spell Quote
SFA85 Posted December 20, 2015 Report Posted December 20, 2015 That may help but I wanna say Trinity won in '09 beating Westlake in San Antonio. Sleeping in your own bed the night before helps but a punishing running game and a head hunting D goes a long way Mr. Buddy Garrity and robanadana 2 Quote
Gasilla Posted December 20, 2015 Report Posted December 20, 2015 In 88 we lost at Kyle Field. MMstangfan 1 Quote
kicker Posted December 20, 2015 Report Posted December 20, 2015 I may be wrong also , but I think in 88 we went to Paris to play , lost a home / home flip . Of course I may be off my rocker again , done that on several posts this year.Its because your getting old M! MMstangfan 1 Quote
MMstangfan Posted December 20, 2015 Report Posted December 20, 2015 Its because your getting old M! lol, u got that right . Was it Paris we played ? Quote
kicker Posted December 20, 2015 Report Posted December 20, 2015 (edited) Yep. 1 play beat us. Literally 1 play. They ran it over and over. We had no answer. Sweep left, sweep right I believe. Edited December 20, 2015 by kicker Quote
robanadana Posted December 21, 2015 Report Posted December 21, 2015 Yep. 1 play beat us. Literally 1 play. They ran it over and over. We had no answer. Sweep left, sweep right I believe.Pretty well what Brock ran to perfection. Mr. Buddy Garrity 1 Quote
robanadana Posted December 21, 2015 Report Posted December 21, 2015 Defense is everything. Great thread. Quote
Mr. Buddy Garrity Posted December 21, 2015 Report Posted December 21, 2015 Defense is everything. Great thread.defense is what DFW doesn't play, thats why minus Argyle they came down South and caught arse whoopings. robanadana and Tiger33 2 Quote
PURPLE 4EVER Posted December 21, 2015 Report Posted December 21, 2015 Of all the games I have videoed I still thing the largest factor in HS football is defensive speed. If your defensive speed is quicker than a team running the spread, you can still shut them down. aka GRHS and Lake Ridge. Mr. Buddy Garrity and robanadana 2 Quote
Cougar14.2 Posted December 21, 2015 Report Posted December 21, 2015 I've long said high school defense is about what you have as left overs from offense. North Shore, GR, La Vega and WOS all had better athletes than the offenses lined up across from them. All of those squads except WOS also had very high level recruits in the defensive side of the ball which helps immensely. Money can buy you a lot of things as a high school program, but it's not going to buy you the level of athlete those schools put on the field over the weekend. studd88, WOSgrad and outanup 3 Quote
outanup Posted December 21, 2015 Report Posted December 21, 2015 Its always been my belief that offense wins games....But defense wins championships!!!! Plenty of good offenses at home in late December, give me a full back, te, and a ball control Offense, and a stingy Defense anyday. robanadana 1 Quote
GUNHO Posted December 21, 2015 Report Posted December 21, 2015 I agree with what's been said to a certain extent.There are always exceptions.We had one of the best defenses in the state and Navasota destroyed us.The roll of the defense is to slow the other team down and give your offense a chance to win it.Navasota's offense was just unreal and with all the points that Gilmer put up last year they were no where near that team. Quote
pe2009 Posted December 21, 2015 Report Posted December 21, 2015 When you have a great defense....you need a slow, boring offense....like Katy......the longer the offense is on the field...the more rest the already good defense gets......Katy outscored opponents 778-62 this season..... bronco pride, Raiders94 and Mr. Buddy Garrity 3 Quote
kicker Posted December 21, 2015 Report Posted December 21, 2015 When you have a great defense....you need a slow, boring offense....like Katy......the longer the offense is on the field...the more rest the already good defense gets......Katy outscored opponents 778-62 this season.....I honestly believe we would have had a few more shutouts this year if our offense wasnt so nasty at scoring from any where, at any time. It was almost detremental to our defense(as crazy and stupid as that sounds). Defense gets off the field then BAM TD WOS on first offenseive play. Defense had only the kickoff to rest lol. wo-s#1 1 Quote
GUNHO Posted December 22, 2015 Report Posted December 22, 2015 I honestly believe we would have had a few more shutouts this year if our offense wasnt so nasty at scoring from any where, at any time. It was almost detremental to our defense(as crazy and stupid as that sounds). Defense gets off the field then BAM TD WOS on first offenseive play. Defense had only the kickoff to rest lol.I think that's why coach T tried to go back to a more run type offense a few years back so the defense could get some rest.Of course we didn't have the line for that and it didn't take long before we went back to the spread. Quote
pe2009 Posted December 22, 2015 Report Posted December 22, 2015 I honestly believe we would have had a few more shutouts this year if our offense wasnt so nasty at scoring from any where, at any time. It was almost detremental to our defense(as crazy and stupid as that sounds). Defense gets off the field then BAM TD WOS on first offenseive play. Defense had only the kickoff to rest lol.Manvel is the perfect example....their offense kept their Defense on the field....they were usually gassed late in games. A team could have a long scoring drive against them......then their offense scores in 2-3 plays...then they were right back on the field. Quote
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