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Vidor needs a change, I don't know how though. I don't wish ill-will on em even though some of their fans are kinda weird. Hope they can turn it around. I actually like their HC, sat to him at a Memorial game and talked ball with him, cool dude. 

The Pirates need a "Get right" game whose next? I still think they can finish as a top 3 seed in this district based on their history.

Vidors qb has to be moved back to linebacker they can find someone else to hand the ball off the defense is a different animal with him at linebacker 

It’s cool to take shots at other teams, that’s one of the things the board is for. It’s different to badger a situation though, especially with non-football commentary. Y’all are 0-2 with two real bad losses, I know how disturbed you are. We’ve been there. The last thing you need me doing while y’all are in here talking football is making a bunch of unnecessary comments. 

Let me guess......................................all play action passes ?  🙄

they're better than past Santa Fe teams. they have a pretty good WR and a good DL. 

4 turnovers and a multitude of penalties. Lots of work to be done.

2.7 seconds left in the third quarter.
going for two, conversion is good.
21-14 Sante Fe! 

Vidor at the SF 15

I believe you are correct it's easy and has had success in the past so if it don't work now it's gotta be the kids not the coaches is the mindset I get coming out of the program, I will be in the stands tonight we will see what if any changes was made from last week

A lot of our rbs would be good slot receivers. i honestly think Vidors coach doesnt want to install a new system this late in his career. It would be too much work , its a sit it and forget it type of thing. Complacency !

Can't wait till tonight!  I believe the Pirates will look much improved over last week.  

I don't think it necessarily has to be one scheme or another but could be a hybrid scheme or maybe slot t with a few wrinkles.  (combining some sets or play action)  .  The main thing would be developing the QB and WRs and not just throw on obvious 2nd or 3rd and long situations.  The biggest issue with this offense is if they get behind the sticks due to penalty or loss of yards and trying to make that up with either sticking to the slot t or making an obvious throw.

I Agree, I would think not being so predictable should be figured into the game plan but I don’t want to start bashing coaches. They know all the variables going on with the team way more than a fan imo. You still have to be more physical in that offense. It’s still one loss against a very good football team. 
 
 

Agree, and agree.  It’s not the same Slot T we’ve been running.  And like you, why have the kid passing rolling to the left is inexplicable.  I watched the video of the 2019 game against Crosby were we passed more than I ever remember (about 260 yards).  All were rolling to the right or drop back.  And the kids blocking last year put defenders on the ground.  Did the rules just change?  And now our go to play is what was referred to as “student body left” (or right).  And for heaven sakes, throw a pass on first down once in a while.  And do we even have a screen pass in the playbook?
Forgive this old man.  He’s confused and frustrated.

It's is not about running the spread or the slot T, in fact with rule changes to blocking we can do very little cutting anymore which is why you didn't see many tigers on the ground Friday. We don't truly run the slot T anymore there is no mis direction it is all straight forward here we come, mis direction is what makes the slot T work never knowing who has the ball linebackers have to fill gaps instead of running to the ball every play. My thoughts on this is we don't develop qbs it's a new kid every yr so they are learning the offense on the fly instead of having a kid that played it since a freshman and knows it like the back of his hand. By no means do I believe we need to line up in shotgun with 5 wrs but also given time and working on it I think we got the kids that could do it. What I am saying though if we are going to run the slot T than run the true slot T not a knocked down version of it that makes it easy to defend, and for the love of god when we do try to throw why would you think it is a good idea to roll the qb left against his throwing shoulder 

When Crueder took over the offense we started this current philosophy of how the Slot-T is ran. Every coordinator since then emulated this bad habit. It was a methodical offense under DuBois ,where he used plays to set up other plays and the first half play calling was used to open up things in the second half. They went to to hurry up because Liberty Hill went to it ! Years ago when DuBois/Mathews first Liberty Hill to learn the offense it was different but teams started figuring out how to stop it. People still believe that Vidor is incapable of running another type of offense and that's completely absurd . They tried to throw a little in the SHOT-T days but people scuffed at the idea. The truth is that the naysayers just didn't want their kids to  be there during the transition phase to endure the growing pains. They abandon the idea after one year but where has the Slot-T got us in the many years it has been installed ? If we would have spent that much time on the spread then I think we could of figured it out. Close minded
   Vidor doesn't play with passion and desire anymore. Arm tackling is the norm. I don't think they are buying into the coaching philosophy anymore.

Let’s Go Pirates!🏴‍☠️

Let’s remember this was just one game. The first game of the season. I don’t have blinders on. I see it for what it is an who they are.  Does anyone really think Vidor going to a spread offense that just about every team in the state of Texas runs an defends would do better?  I think not. Ran correctly with the right personnel this offense can be effective but you have to have a decent defense to go with it. Vidors defense has always been pretty decent over the years but last night was not typical Pirate Defense. I’ll say it again. Silsbee is a Solid team that will go deep in the playoffs imo. Let’s see how they respond next week. I truly haven’t heard any solutions except maybe some tweaking on player movement other than that all I’ve heard is I am sick of being mediocre and we have the talent…we’ll then tell us what you’d do with that talent?

That was my thought too, the defense looked like one of the worst Vidor has had in a long time. It’s supposed to be our strong suit, their best chance may be to go back to the old tried and true. Stack the defense with all of the best players and try to keep games close. Wouldn’t have mattered last night but maybe in the future. Who we got at JV quarterback lol I’m already looking at moving youngsters up.

You make some valid points but I disagree with you on the bulking up. My son plays on the Freshman team. He tells me what they do for conditioning at School, an it’s workouts that help put on bulk. A lot of the kids take creatinine in moderation to help bulk up. He’s put almost 30 lbs on his frame since last year at this time with most of it being muscle. Of course he’s at that age of growing but he works his tail off to get bigger,stronger and faster. Whatever he doesn’t feel like he gets at school he goes to our 24 hr fitness gym we belong to an puts in extra work. There’s always other kids up there putting in the extra work from freshman to JV to Varsity football players. So I disagree on the conditioning part. 
 
At the end of the day I think the coaches are trying to do the best with what they got. I definitely don’t have all the answers that’s why I am not a coach. 
  
Improvement can be made on tackling, taking proper angles to make the tackles, blockers staying on their blocks till the sound of the whistle and being disciplined on false starts.
Other than that they just have to learn from last night and keep working hard. I know it’s hard to watch sometimes.

Unwoke, here is a change I would make. We moved our best defensive player to qb. I'm not saying he is a bad qb, not at all. Kid is 110% every play. But, with him at qb we lose him at linebacker. It is a huge loss on defense. I dont think his upside at qb is worth losing him at linebacker.   Odom is a BEAST at linebacker. Teamwise we are much better with him on defense. He is 1 of the best linebackers we've ever had. Ain't no way he shouldn't playing in the middle of that defense

I know it’s just the first game but that Vidor offense doesn’t look very crisp so many flags and no explosive plays. The defense looks like they don’t want to tackle anybody not just Miller I mean anybody. They just look defeated already, like they don’t want it. Big step back from last years scrappy little team but we lost some key players to graduation so who knows maybe they figure it out later in the season. I’m out of here boys, good luck to Silsbee y’all look pretty good this year, we got a lot of work to do in Pirate Land.

We already threw our pass for the game
and he dropped it

good to see you updating, BYB!