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37 minutes ago, Waterboys said:

Yea Buna has no athletes and no kids with natural talent. Get out of here with that ...

I think you're taking what was intended as a complement and turning it into something else.  I saw Buna this year and they were competitive with a bunch of guys who don't jump out at you athletically.  Thats pretty standard for Buna with most teams being a little better. Lots of good players have come through there, but I don't recall a whole lot of 6'6 guys tearing down rims.  Whitmire always did more with less and that's impressive.

3 hours ago, TxHoops said:

Man I hope not.  What a hire that could be for OF. 

I hope not too.  Orangefield has been really good with McDonald and could continue to be really good with Whitmire.  He has a good track record of taking kids without much athleticism and natural talent and turning them into good players and teams.

Those Connells really are the best.  I heard Whitmire is going to pass due to too much drama.  If true, that's a shame because he's a really good coach.  Buna should have never let him walk.

3 hours ago, Cu Chulainn said:

The Bobcats averaged 65 points per game last season and broke 80 (6 times) as well as 70 (13 times). 80 could have been the goal all along, just saying. Guard heavy teams find themselves needing to play fast and keep bigger opposing lineups winded by running the floor. It's just "Small Ball - 101". If you have bigger/dominant posts then slowing the game down could be the better strategy because your size in the paint makes you better suited for the half-court style of play (example: Orangefield would have wanted to slow the pace down when Valentine Cat was there. Dump it down every time down the floor to Cat until they double, then kick out to your open shooters (Coy Bryant) when they do). Orangefield will have some BIGS coming the next few years, but probably not another 6'10".

What would have happened had the cats tried to score 80 against Hitchcock?  I'll tell you.  Would have gotten 40 popped.  You/dad should stick to turning valves.

50 minutes ago, bullets13 said:

He’s got a really good thing going where he is.  The community and kids are bought in.  

You sure?  I always had the feeling he leads the area in parent complaints.  To stay on topic, I saw the ghosts daddy declared his support for a candidate.  Interesting move.

1 hour ago, JackofAll said:

I see lots of talk but no facts... where the stats? Were they all district? Honorable mention? Nope

The only kids that made those lists were there from the get-go.

Bridge City kid was 2nd team.  Fort Bend kid was honorable mention.  Those are facts, Jack.  Another fact is your football coach begging Orangefield's best 8th grader to move to LCM.  This is a basketball thread.  See ya!

4 hours ago, JackofAll said:

Sorry to derail the conversation but just out of curiosity can you name me two players who've made a meaningful impact that have "moved in" since the new head coach came in?

One starting wr from bc another from fort bend.  WOS qb got benched and moved over mid season.  WOS rb moved over week 10.  So not a ton of impact, but not for lack of trying...

Back on track.  I believe DJ Wilson is interviewing early next week.

I poked at him earlier, but you guys are being a little hard on the guy.  He just wants the best for his son.  If Orangefield doesn't hire a coach to his liking they will likely be taking his talents to IMG Academy.

So we could get Whitmire at OF and DJ at Buna head to head?  Or DJ gets OF and Buna begs Whitmire to come home?  I like it.  Who is Hoyt?

On 4/23/2023 at 2:29 PM, buccaneers4lyfe said:

Same Scales who plays for Orangefield? If that happened it could be a made for TV reality series. 

If you're talking about the kids dad that always wears the cool flat bill hat, then I could not think of a worse idea.  I guess it would make for good TV though. 

18 hours ago, Hawks18 said:

😂😂 I think they would run someone off if they hired a one year assistant coach 

Hearing DJ Wilson's name a lot and one has to believe that the current assistant is involved.  He's got some really good head coaching experience.  Bobcats can't go wrong with either one of those guys...and they're related!

9 hours ago, TxHoops said:

I like BC’s pg a lot.  Lumberton returns the “other” offensive mvp, the one who just committed to Lamar.  It will be Silsbee, Lumberton, and then the other 5 fighting for the other two spots.  Good news is the other two teams who would have been locks (HJ and HF) are in another district. 

I usually agree with you, but i think Lumberton finishes towards the bottom.  They lost a ton.  So does Silsbee, but they're Silsbee.  Rest of the district bring a lot back from poor teams.  I think this is the weakest the district has probably ever been.  I do think Jake McDonald gets your Bobcats into the playoffs.

The HF, HJ, Huffman district will be a battle.  Three good teams.  I'll be interested to see who is suiting up for the Horns, but they should be good.

Good list, but you only put seven.  Add Anthony Allen (Lincoln), Daimon Sweet (Central), Imannuel McElroy (Lincoln), Kelvin McKyer (Lincoln), Darryl McArthur (Silsbee), Keena Young (Ozen), Braelon Bush (Silsbee) all have to be in that discussion.  Guy from Nederland named Buddy Davis played in the NBA and won a gold medal in the Olympics, but I never saw him play.  Probably has the resume to make it though.

6 hours ago, TxHoops said:

So when Cade Cunningham and Scottie Barnes are the best players on their respective teams in high major conferences in 8 months (Big 12/ACC) - was it this 8 months that made the difference?  Because their bodies won’t look much different.  In fact, Cunningham has an NBA body at 18.  
 

As for coaching, I would imagine Boyle has been offered a TON of mid major jobs.  He’s a legend in HS coaching (coached at St Pat’s in Jersey before Montverde).  Some guys like the HS level, especially when they are compensated like a mid major college coach.  If he ever makes the jump to the collegiate level, it will be to take a head job at a Power 5.  
 

Having said all that, I’m not convinced they would beat SFA either.  But I can’t imagine they aren’t favorites against the other 13 SLC teams.  
 

And Findlay Prep no longer exists.  

I see your point and I think those two will be NBA players.  So will others at Montverde.  Eight months doesn't make a huge difference, but when the gap is two or three years it adds up.  That's not just s&c, but experience, discipline, and maturity as well.  This is why I think the teams dominated by one and done kids don't win as many championships as people think they should.  

Montverde, IMG, Oak Hill, Sunrise, Findlay, etc are all very, very good, but they should be.  They pull talent from all over the country and even the world.  Of course they should strum a school like Yates, who only pulls players from all over Houston.  And a typical high school team only gets kids from their own town or district.  It's not a level playing field, but we're not getting into that again.

Now, Montverde vs SFA or a mid-major is an interesting question.  They'd be more talented and their potential is MUCH higher, but I've heard Marvin Lewis say potential gets you beat.  The difference in the body of a 21 yr old compared to a 16 yr old is huge.  The difference mentally is even more pronounced.  I'd argue that coaching would be in favor of an SFA as well.  Those prep coaches would jump at the opportunity to be a D1 coach.  How much strategy goes into beating high school teams by 50 with a team of all stars?  How much struggle and adversity?  The benefit of going to those prep schools is to practice against the best day in and day out and they serve that purpose.  I don't think Montverde would win a mid major conference though.

31 minutes ago, AggiesAreWe said:

Who said Tigee voted for himself?

BTW, WO-S voted for Sigler. The man told me so.

Of course he voted for himself.  Anyone who didn't vote for him must be racist.  Just like the refs are racist when he loses.  Great message to send to kids.  Now, sign on all your different logins and blast away, coach.

3 hours ago, Mamba said:

You would side with other team always one who had to fix massa his ice tea !!!!!!!

What the hell is wrong with you?  

1 hour ago, Magic Johnson said:

Rideuax not the COACH OF THE YEAR...I know it was them "WHITE BOYS" that voted against him...

Clay Davis(HJ), Brad Jeffcoat(LCM), and Randall Robertson(BC) y'all some bitter A$$ coaches...

 

 

What are they bitter about? 

31 minutes ago, idiotproof1981 said:

Remember Rideaux only won because he had the better players according to this forum, but as I look at the all district selections it seems that he had only had 2 all district players. HJ and silsbee had 5 lumberton had 4. I’m confused 

Now why in the world would the district coaches not vote for those HF kids?

1 minute ago, TxHoops said:

I’m saying him winning this district with the roster he had isn’t earth shattering.  And at least a couple of the other coaches in that district did more with less imo.  And yes, I believe 2-3 other coaches in that district “could” (not “would” because this is obviously pure speculation and conjecture) have won district outright with that team.  And again, let’s not turn this into a Sigler isn’t a good coach argument. He’s obviously an excellent coach.  He just wouldn’t have been my choice for COTY in THIS particular year.  Only because there were a couple of other remarkable jobs done in this district. 
 

But again, it’s not the worst part of the superlative voting on this team. 

What is the worst part?

I can.  This cat doesn't think any rules apply to him.  I can't wait for him and his boys to get on here and comment.

I assume you are saying Coach Rideaux voted for himself.  Is that something that they aren't supposed to do?

1 hour ago, Cardinal 1 said:

So what you are saying is that you don't like the coach and the new students at HF? 🤔 You honestly think schools who hire good coaches don't attract talent and retain the talent they have? The problem is really that you don't like Coach Rideaux and that's evident, but the hundreds of folks that crowded the gym and thousand that followed them in their two playoff games think otherwise 🤷‍♂️. HF is an open enrollment campus and can accept kids from outside the district just like HJ can. They have their stipulations and grade requirements for these students that apparently are being followed. I know for sure that many of the new faces actually live in the district and was actually attending other schools outside of it. With the hiring of Coach Rideaux, they simply transferred to the school they are zoned for. Are you making the accusation that these kids aren't smart and are in some way bypassing HF standards because of sports? 🤔 I know for sure one kid that is looking to transfer there next year is National Honor society and will graduate top of his class sooooo.....

I don't like cheaters and I believe that the current coach is breaking rules.  The two transfers are really good players and always conducted themselves how they should, but I believe they were recruited to come to HF by the head coach.  I believe other students were recruited to HF that didn't come with them.  I believe that more students will be recruited by the coach to HF and eventually they will get HF in trouble.  I know that you think your friend has a great coaching pedigree and reputation, but he is not Greg Wise and HF is not Yates.  Eventually it will hit the fan.  And I'll still be embarrassed of how HF is operating.  

8 hours ago, idiotproof1981 said:

You aren’t a fool but you are definitely a bitter person. I’ve watched you sit her and bad mouth HF post after post. Get a life and stop accusing kids and people you do not know of things you know nothing about. I love that this forum was created to keep people informed about local athletics but the fact that it’s anonymous gives some of you people way too much bravery.  

More embarrassed than bitter.  My school district hasn't always been the best athletically, but it's always been a good school district that did things right and we always put academics first.  There has always been talent at HF, but we've missed on coaching hires basically since Jeff Keener.  This latest hire is a miss too.  Those transfers haven't always lived in HF and the new ones won't either and everyone knows it.  I'd rather lose with our kids and coaches who do it right than openly break the rules and then brag about how great they are.  Nobody is buying it.  I'm old enough to know that winning isn't everything.

It's not bravery to point out something is wrong.  For what it's worth I've made my opinion known to the principal, AD, and superintendent at HF so I'm not hiding behind an anonymous message board.

Haggerty at Crosby is the best player in the area next year.  Unless he moves to Yates. 

It's been one really nice run over there!