Englebert

These kooks worship the literal draft dodger, while trashing war vets like mattis and McCain, and have the nerve to call themselves patriots…
 
just straight up delusional 
 
 

I’ll attempt to put this in a nutshell…..
 Trump was seen as the man who would shake up the festivities of the Democratic Party aka. the deep state, and their millions in pocket money. You can’t be Mr. Nice Guy and get things accomplished. He rubbed people the wrong way and that is a good thing, whether you like it or not. 
 
This country was founded on the middle finger so I can’t see why true Americans get their panties wadded over some harsh words and criticism. Democrats are the sorriest  group of nut jobs I have ever seen. They deserved everything Trump said about any of them…. And a few Republicans too. 

TDS is really not good for your emotional well-being, but it does produce some hillarious posts. I'm starting to think that you are just "yanking our chains". It's not really conceivable that someone can actually be this unhinged. The hatred espoused must be a joke. Okay, you fooled me. You win. Can we now go back to semi-rational discussions.

This is not a reply to you Bullets, just a rant I want to expound upon my previous post. You got me riled up...in a good way.
I think I can make my point clearer. If Trump would have "abdicated his thrown" for whatever reason the first week into his presidency, Mike Pence would have assumed the role. Pence's moral/social standing is impeccable. If Pence would have enacted the same exact policies as Trump, I have absolutely no doubt, repeat, absolutely no doubt, that the same character assassinations would have commenced upon him. Lies, fake conspiracies, fake accusations would have been just as rampant. (See Brett Kavanaugh.) Pence's policy successes would have been ignored/buried per Liberal playbook. Through these unconscionable attacks, the Liberal media would have mobilized the anti-"GOP" vote no matter who was at the helm. History has shown this clear as day to me. It is even worse now. Watch how the media treats politicians differently based on party. Watch which scandals based on evidence get buried, and which scandals "go viral" based on zero credible evidence, you know...anonymous sources backed up by biased "experts". It has come to pass, it will come again.

Somehow my point is no getting across, Trump is a rude, crude blowhard, no argument from me.  You have never seen me defend his behavior.
I will also not defend folks that willingly vote for a destructive candidate over their hurt feelings.
I read regularly on this forum where parents are hammered for running a good coach out of town because he cussed or yelled at their kids, or worked them too hard.  If only the coach had been nicer, to heck with results, don't hurt feelings...how are those programs doing.
Only difference is this is much more important to our lives.

I never get bent out of shape, unless you go in the gutter...then I start playing. (You know I'm not referring to you.)
You are conflating the issue. I'm not apologizing at all for Trump's tweets/actions. In fact, I didn't like many of them, hated some. I liked that he did punch back when a punch was thrown at him. Probably because McCain, Romney, Bush never fought back against the punches (lies) thrown at them. What I'm doing is putting less weight on his tweets/personal actions and judging him more on his policy results. You are putting more weight on his tweets/personal actions than I do to evaluate the man. That's a slight but very common difference in philosophy. Everyone has their own set of weights. But I'm definitely not apologizing for him.
I will defend him for the media outrage that was perpetrated on him. Some of it was deserved because of his own actions, but most of it was just pure hatred by the Liberals. This has been their tactic (see Romney, McCain, Bush, Bush, and Reagan), but it was ramped up ten fold for Trump. I found that unacceptable and am disgusted by it. If the media would have bashed him for his bad behavior, but also treated him fairly for his policy successes, then he would have won in a landslide. He did not doom his candidacy, he was railroaded by the media. The media mobilized the Democrat voters through lies. Those lies against him, or anyone, is unacceptable to me.
And I definitely want to make that clear to as many as possible. The next GOP candidate will be accused of every immoral action known to man. The media/Liberals now know they can get away with this ratcheted strategy because it worked so well on Trump. We actually have people that voted for an incompetent fool because the media trashed a very, very successful incumbent. Social media tech was complicit and an active participant in the hijacking of the election, and will ramp it up even more in the next election. So no, no apologies, only a realistic view of poor actions from both sides, weighted appropriately.

Maybe the Dems should have given him the chance to show humility, instead of impeaching him knowing they were doing so with criteria that was proven false.  He had every right to go after the Dems and media as he did.  There’s not another man that would have stuck it out for four years like Trump did.  Personally, I feel biden is paving the way for his return.  He is single handedly setting the Dim party back years!

Don’t get bent out of shape, because I don’t disagree with much that you said here, but this is literally a trump apologist post.  I think trump did a pretty good job as president, and I voted for him twice.  The only difference between myself and a lot of folks on here is that I’m willing to place blame on him for the way he acted.  It’s directly affecting you, me, and everyone else as we speak.  He brought democratic voters out to the polls in a way that lame duck Biden never could, and pushed a lot of centrists left.  Y’all can continue to blame everyone that he upset for how stupid they were for voting for Biden, but that doesn’t change the fact that had he shown some humility and common sense, and not devoted so much time to insulting people, we wouldn’t be having this conversation (and our country would be a lot better off).

Who are the "Trump apologists"? Who are the ones defending his mean tweets?
As petulant as Joe Biden acts now, can you imagine how he would react if the media treated him like they do Trump? Talk about "bigly" petulance. 
Do you think the media will go after the GOP candidate (whoever it may be) with every derogatory, unsavory, unethical accusation known to man? And yet, somehow Trump will still get the blame.

If a person is still perpetuating the resoundingly debunked fire extinguisher narrative, maybe that person should shy away from commenting on any Jan. 6 topic.

You just keep getting worse.
No, 95% of that stuff was false. Trump was accused of being a racist easily over 100,000 times by the media in the first month of his tenure (very, very, VERY conservative estimate). And as you well know, it was a lie (a lie you brush off or just refuse to acknowledge). Just that fact alone should tell you about the media. It's is amazing and very disappointing that your hatred for the man blinds you from obvious facts.
Just another tidbit on your wild claims brought on by TDS. White supremacists, the few left that you can find, universally supported Bush...according to the media, especially craphole racists like the Southern Poverty Law Center. Refute that fact! We currently have more members of BLM and Antifa than the KKK running wild in the United States. Which politician do they support? Will you chastise Biden/Dems for "accepting" (coveting) support of BLM. Please explain your rationale for blindness on one side. I have a feeling you are suffering from the racism of low expectations...except "racism" in this case are the Dems. I can accept that, but you have gone so overboard that it is embarrassing for you. Blind hatred would be laughable if it didn't affect such good people.
It's amazing that you bring up Christianity to chastise Trump/supporters, but will refuse to acknowledge Biden and Dems "support" (or lack of) of Christianity. This is obvious. Why do you do this? See paragraph above.
It is absolutely baffling that practically everything you show as support for your hatred of Trump is exemplified and personified twice as much by the Democrats. Having knowledge of this fact, you still attempt to chastise Trump and supporters, but turn a blind eye to worse behavior by Dems. See two paragraphs above. It's obvious. Your double standards are glaring.
Now, let's address the power of the media. If I could convince the media to label you a pedophile, and the media capitulates by running this narrative 24/7, how long do you think you could last on this board? Truth doesn't matter. Your objections, past history, moral turpitude will be on trial. Social media will ban all dissenting viewpoints/evidence. Do you think you could survive? How fired up will your supporters, who know the truth, be to defend you? The answer is very, very obvious.

It's really a shame that some refuse to see the big picture and evaluate who really deserves the blame. It really is a shame, and a huge, huge disappointment...because of the obvious.

Let's see: 95% to 99% non-stop negative coverage. Omission of coverage on positive things...even spun to make them negative. False accusations and flat out lies bombarding the airwaves 24/7. Nobody can survive that type of character assassination...not even the Pope. Trump deserves some credit for some negative coverage, but if he would have had fair and honest press coverage then he would have won in a land slide. But let's put all of the blame on one man's actions instead of the obvious "collusion" perpetrated by the media. "Obvious" is not nearly a strong enough word.
I can predict it now. The next GOP presidential candidate will be label by the media as: racist, homophobic, a threat to LBGT (whatever the other letters are), a threat to all "minorities" (including women), misogynistic, a firm supporter of White supremacy, a bully, zenophobic, etc. This will be true despite the race or gender of the candidate. Anyone want to take this bet? This is the Democrat playbook, executed to the hilt against Trump. And it worked. We actually have intelligent people right here on this very board that fell for the character assassination. The Dems will continue this strategy. So again, would anyone like to bet on whether these accusations will be levied? (This bet coming from someone that doesn't gamble.)

Let's see: 95% to 99% non-stop negative coverage. Omission of coverage on positive things...even spun to make them negative. False accusations and flat out lies bombarding the airwaves 24/7. Nobody can survive that type of character assassination...not even the Pope. Trump deserves some credit for some negative coverage, but if he would have had fair and honest press coverage then he would have won in a land slide. But let's put all of the blame on one man's actions instead of the obvious "collusion" perpetrated by the media. "Obvious" is not nearly a strong enough word.
I can predict it now. The next GOP presidential candidate will be label by the media as: racist, homophobic, a threat to LBGT (whatever the other letters are), a threat to all "minorities" (including women), misogynistic, a firm supporter of White supremacy, a bully, zenophobic, etc. This will be true despite the race or gender of the candidate. Anyone want to take this bet? This is the Democrat playbook, executed to the hilt against Trump. And it worked. We actually have intelligent people right here on this very board that fell for the character assassination. The Dems will continue this strategy. So again, would anyone like to bet on whether these accusations will be levied? (This bet coming from someone that doesn't gamble.)

Another worthless post meant only to deride. Do you take pleasure in derailing your own topic? Do you think we should put any stock in the analysis of someone thoroughly debilitated by TDS?

I know this is controversial 
but I am 100% in support 
of mandatory vacations
for everyone and booster vacations
every four months.
Sorry if this offends anyone. 

Me too.
I'm also for mandating a strict, healthy food regime for everyone. Have you noticed all of those fat slobs in the doctors office. I have to wait for hours to see the doctor because of these idiots. Let's force them to eat healthy. Ban meat. Ban dairy. Ban everything unhealthy in the name of protecting me, my family, my loved ones, and of course, our fearless political leaders. We need an "Operation Warp Speed" diet commission to produce a pill that those idiots must take so they will be healthy and will not fill up the hospitals. I hate looking at those disgusting people. They need to be forced into submission.
I'm also in favor of mandatory exercise for these disgusting slobs. If you cannot show a body/fat ratio test that falls within a government mandated acceptable range, you cannot enter a restaurant. You cannot enter any public workplace. You cannot board a plane. I don't want to be forced to pay extra fuel costs trickled down into the cost of my plane ticket due to these fatties.
Let's also mandate masks, year round, in all public and private places. I can't stand when these people cough or sneeze within 50 feet of me while not wearing a mask. Some of these disgusting people have the nerve to enter a grocery store during flu season...while I'm there. Don't these idiots realize they are spreading their disgusting germs in my presence. Mandatory masks will solve this problem. Of course we will need a federal commission to study how many masks these filthies must wear. I'm guessing 2 for first offense, 5 for second offense. The third offense should result in stapling the masks to their face.
We must also control procreation. We, and every fellow enlightened one can agree, surely don't want these disgusting people spitting out more vile copies of themselves. Our leaders must mandate who can reproduce, and with who. This will greatly improve my future, as well as everyone I care about. I voted these political leaders into office. Their job is to protect me from those who make bad health choices in life.
Luckily I, and our leaders are "sophisticated" and do not need to follow these rules. But those disgusting people must conform. So yes, I'm on board. Let's mandate the unwashed masses until they conform or die. The Earth will be a much better place once we get rid of the people that won't obey. Once we get rid of the unintelligent degenerates, then we can have a more scientific debate on what is healthy for the rest of us. 

Me too.
I'm also for mandating a strict, healthy food regime for everyone. Have you noticed all of those fat slobs in the doctors office. I have to wait for hours to see the doctor because of these idiots. Let's force them to eat healthy. Ban meat. Ban dairy. Ban everything unhealthy in the name of protecting me, my family, my loved ones, and of course, our fearless political leaders. We need an "Operation Warp Speed" diet commission to produce a pill that those idiots must take so they will be healthy and will not fill up the hospitals. I hate looking at those disgusting people. They need to be forced into submission.
I'm also in favor of mandatory exercise for these disgusting slobs. If you cannot show a body/fat ratio test that falls within a government mandated acceptable range, you cannot enter a restaurant. You cannot enter any public workplace. You cannot board a plane. I don't want to be forced to pay extra fuel costs trickled down into the cost of my plane ticket due to these fatties.
Let's also mandate masks, year round, in all public and private places. I can't stand when these people cough or sneeze within 50 feet of me while not wearing a mask. Some of these disgusting people have the nerve to enter a grocery store during flu season...while I'm there. Don't these idiots realize they are spreading their disgusting germs in my presence. Mandatory masks will solve this problem. Of course we will need a federal commission to study how many masks these filthies must wear. I'm guessing 2 for first offense, 5 for second offense. The third offense should result in stapling the masks to their face.
We must also control procreation. We, and every fellow enlightened one can agree, surely don't want these disgusting people spitting out more vile copies of themselves. Our leaders must mandate who can reproduce, and with who. This will greatly improve my future, as well as everyone I care about. I voted these political leaders into office. Their job is to protect me from those who make bad health choices in life.
Luckily I, and our leaders are "sophisticated" and do not need to follow these rules. But those disgusting people must conform. So yes, I'm on board. Let's mandate the unwashed masses until they conform or die. The Earth will be a much better place once we get rid of the people that won't obey. Once we get rid of the unintelligent degenerates, then we can have a more scientific debate on what is healthy for the rest of us. 

I agree with pretty much all of this. But what is really stranger than the people that worship Trump, is the people that despise Trump. According to the election results, the people that hate Trump far outnumber the people who love him. So why do the worshippers get all the negative publicity, but the haters get a pass? (Rhetorical question...we know why.)

Wow, are you actually trying to use an off-handed remark meant for amusement as some sort of evidence to justify your contempt for Trump. I guess that is the result of blind hatred...and a lot of hatred exists. Far more hatred than love.

Is "blind loyalty" akin to "blind hatred"? Which is worse? Which side has a majority of the afflicted?
It's sometimes fun (and simplistic) to put people in a box with a label when one doesn't understand their reasoning processes. But blind loyaty and blind hatred both lead to deranged analysis, and both can lead to very bad outcomes...a la Biden. Who won the election with a record number of votes?

Hitler? Blind loyalty?  Good grief!
I would vote for Trump hands down again if I had the chance, not out of undying loyalty (I don't even like the guy) but because I like the way the country was going when he was in office as opposed to what we have now.
Is what happened at the capitol worse that what's happening in Afghanistan and at the border?
I'll answer...no.
 

I don't know who the next Republican presidential nominee will be, but we already know a few things about him/her. The nominee will be racist (even if he is Black), will be misogynistic (even if she's a woman), will be xenophobic, will hate immigrants, will hate gay/transgender people, and will hate anyone that fits into a minority category. These are undeniable certainties. I hope the next nominee gets banned from social media in order to protect those who levy these accusations. We don't want the next candidate to be labeled a bully. That will surely turn off the "moderates" and doom the candidacy. 

How about this: Trump tried to drain the swamp, but was being stifled by both parties. You forget the fourth, and most obvious choice. Somehow even you (LOL) didn't know what the most obvious choice was...obviously.

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