MackLewis

Coaching can be explained at WOS.   
 
Aledo is a different answer.    They’ve won with 3 different coaches.    They have coaching, talent, and community support.    A culture of winning.    Until they move up, they won’t be pushed.   Once they go 6A-D2, see if they win a title within 6 years.   Is the new coach at Aledo a big time coach, or is he coaching a big time program?  Maybe both.
Carthage always had the talent, just like Jasper has got the talent.    Surratt was the perfect fit for that community.   Surratt would not do the same thing at any of those schools mentioned….. or would have a extremely slim chance.
There are as many elite coaches that have won a state title after 7 years, than before.   Your logic is flawed and your vision is one of fantasy.

Carthage also has the special talent many other schools don’t.   Athletic talent.
A great coaching job at HJ or Liberty would be the 3rd or 4th round.
Reggie Samples, Claude Mathis, or Gary Joseph could come to Beaumont United and a great coaching job would be to get 2nd or 3rd in that district.  
 
Some people live in reality, others fantasy.   

The spreads work well with a lot of kids running 4.8’s
Didn’t you know. 

Some of us live in Houston but born and raised in Orange and have a lot of pride for SETEX. 
Switching teams now Let's go North Shore!

Might as well have full-on chaos. NS and SC got one job today/tonight 😁 

Saw it with Belleville vs Gilmer.    PNG is struggling with wrapping up, and tackling that back.   He’s not big, but a hard runner.
Make SOC throw it.   That kid can’t beat PNG with his arm.

Carthage also has the special talent many other schools don’t.   Athletic talent.
A great coaching job at HJ or Liberty would be the 3rd or 4th round.
Reggie Samples, Claude Mathis, or Gary Joseph could come to Beaumont United and a great coaching job would be to get 2nd or 3rd in that district.  
 
Some people live in reality, others fantasy.   

Carthage also has the special talent many other schools don’t.   Athletic talent.
A great coaching job at HJ or Liberty would be the 3rd or 4th round.
Reggie Samples, Claude Mathis, or Gary Joseph could come to Beaumont United and a great coaching job would be to get 2nd or 3rd in that district.  
 
Some people live in reality, others fantasy.   

Man... you are sad.  Only about wins and losses.  Nothing more, nothing less.  Such a simple mind.  Maybe one day you'll be able to see that coaches are much more than wins and losses. 

Surratt's talent pool isn't everywhere either, (a dozen 300lb.'ers each year and D1's everywhere is pretty special) I understand the point you are making and I agree... but to be fair, Deweyville would have to beat Mart to make it to State. We just absolutely do not match talent. Mart (although they lost to Albany) just made their 7th straight State appearance...not many schools compete with Mart. But I know what you mean. Coaching (IMO) means you get everything out of what you have...build some success and talent will come or it won't and you go somewhere with more talent and get the best out of them! 🤣

Do you think Surratt’s are everywhere?
You start gauging coaches off of what he’s done, and no one’s job will be safe.
Do you think Deweyville, or Evadale is gonna compete with Mart and make it to state?

Do you think Surratt’s are everywhere?
You start gauging coaches off of what he’s done, and no one’s job will be safe.
Do you think Deweyville, or Evadale is gonna compete with Mart and make it to state?

Is HF not setx anymore? Because Mark Waggoner has 4 state titles. 

Gunter will win this by 3 scores. Thought they would go up to 3A1 but they have a guardian angle looking over them. 

Two well coached ball teams and maybe the most evenly matched game of the weekend. 

Yes he is….,

One thing is certain.    Every 7 years they will be hiring a new head man.

No more slot T is much more likely than facilities upgrade.   The stadium is basically the same when I started Kindergarten in 83.

One thing is certain.    Every 7 years they will be hiring a new head man.

Sure do, Coach Foster is doing well, yes he is currently retired. Will private message you more info... 
Great Coach who mentored me alot both as player and then again as a young coach and Defensive Coordinator.

Be careful what you wish for

I’ll lean towards coaching… but you better have the talent level to go with it.    You shouldn’t have to have Duncanville talent every year to win, but you have to have athleticism.
But a head coach, perhaps more importantly the staff he hires, and the culture he instills is most important in the success of a program…. Just my opinion.

Science teaches - to have a fire you need three things… fuel, air, and ignition source. 
 
I’d argue that to have a TOP TIER football program, you need athletes, coaching, and community support. Sometimes you end up with a really talented bunch of kids or a really exceptional coach and it’s the last thing that you needed… but not “the biggest reason for our success.”  You can look at the recent local rises and falls of historic programs and take your own conclusions, but the fact remains… you’ve got to have all three to be consistently successful. 
 
Did Coach Rowe at Bellville finally learn how to coach over the summer? No, he’s got a good group of kids.  PNG has shut a lot of mouths that said “you’ll never see another SC from mid-county-they don’t have the athletes.” WOS is an example of what a great coach (or a not-so-good coach) can accomplish with a group of good athletes. 
 
It takes all three (talent, coaching, and support) with the first two being almost equally important and the last being a minority third. 

Just a thought here and I understand there might be some controversy around this. 
I think Crosby's implosion and PNG's ascension should teach us a couple very important lessons. 
1) We overvalue the effect of athletes (bo's and joes) on the success of a program and undervalue the effect of coaching. 
2) Great coaches will get the enrollment involved and working. At the end of the day the single most important thing for late playoff success is depth and coaching. Yes losing a great QB/RB/WR/LB can end a season early but if you don't have depth at all the "not superstar" positions and if the backups aren't just as willing, able and wanting to play as the starters you cannot have success at the highest levels. 
I think this is true because of a couple of reasons, Winner win. If you are successful and win others want to be a part of that, from that 6'8 300 lbs kid that's never touched a football to that 5'6 kid who will run through a wall to get his chance. They all are important and they all need to feel like part of the team. If you win then no one cares about being the backup. If you win people will be happy to just be on the team. If you win you can have 65 athletes on Varsity every single year. 
Even a team without elite athletics' talent can execute plays at a high level if they are well coached. Practice times, culture of work, and accountability set the standards for developing 14 year old's into athletic 17 years old's. That being said great coaches can overcome program deficiencies that previously existed. 
 
Crosby and PNG prove this. PNG has no more talent now than it has for the last decade. Crosby has no less talent than it has for the last decade. It's about how that talent is coached, brought through the system, and executes daily. 
 
My ramblings. 
 

I agree to a point.
PNG also has a history, culture, and quite a bit of talent.
PNG was no stranger to the 3rd and 4th round, they just needed to learn to play defense.   They went and found their answer.
OF has a long ways to go to be playing in Arlington.   They should be happy with the leader they’ve had.   Hiring a man to come in and take them from the 1st round, to the 3rd or 4th round would take a miracle.
Not that it shouldn’t be the goal, just don’t let the goal be the expectation.