CardinalBacker

Have you ever seen Carthage, for instance? You’re nowhere near as stacked as dozens of 4A schools.  Once again, I don’t want to sound hateful, but I don’t think a single kid on the Newton squad has ever played a snap of D1 ball... much less in the SEC. 
Kids who are projected to be D1 talent from small schools tend to get exposed when they step onto the field at the next level. Every kid with a few shreds of talent looks like a world beater when facing 3A D2 teams. Every few years we hear all about how Newton has a whole new crop of “D1 Talent” and then they are never heard from again. Except for the ones that go to McNeese  
Once again... I wish we had our choice of some of those kids here in BC. I’m not being hateful. You guys just wrecked your division.... 3A D2. I tend to think you guys would attract a whole lot less hate if you stuck your bird chests out and said “we’re the best in 3A D2!!! Do y’all want to see our rings again?” instead of hitting the message boards trying to convince the masses that you’d have rolled through all of 3A and 4A. 
Makes trips to Jerryworld the next three years and we’ll still say you’re inferior to WOS... because you’re doing it against weaker comp. 

It was a fairly decent rivalry game with all of the local “pageantry”... a banquet, trophies, etc.... it just got a little rowdy in the last few games. There was a fairly decent brawl in the last one and OF decided to stop participating. We figured that would last a few years but it’s been five now, I think. 
Kinda stupid they were still district opponents in every other sport.  Our kids and OF kids all play little baseball in BC’s program as well as little dribblers and stjfl. The fun only stops when it gets to school organized fb. 
My favorite memory of that rivalry is when some genius made a sign for a basketball game that looked like the IHOP logo.... but it said “I Hate Orangefield People.”  

People complain about you fanning the flames at times but this is why I love reading your posts on this site.  Killed me. 

That's weird.... I use a computer to do all of my math for me.  
It's never made a mistake yet. 
Sounds like somebody got reminded that the education system is here to support the athletic programs... not the other way around. 

Like i said in the girls section , this may be even more embarrassing.

I've always wonder why during football season, so many JV players become ineligible when grades come out, but no varsity players.  Guess I didn't understand the "rules".  

That's weird.... I use a computer to do all of my math for me.  
It's never made a mistake yet. 
Sounds like somebody got reminded that the education system is here to support the athletic programs... not the other way around. 

That's weird.... I use a computer to do all of my math for me.  
It's never made a mistake yet. 
Sounds like somebody got reminded that the education system is here to support the athletic programs... not the other way around. 

That's weird.... I use a computer to do all of my math for me.  
It's never made a mistake yet. 
Sounds like somebody got reminded that the education system is here to support the athletic programs... not the other way around. 

And I dare say that Carthage faced a better Silsbee squad than Newton did based on personnel changes, post hurricane bs, etc, etc.....

Newton was far and away the best team in 3A D2.  No question about it.  Could they have won it all in the next class up?  We'll never know.  Here's what we do know...the last time Newton was in that upper classification they didn't make it out of the region.  Is this Newton team better than those other Newton teams?  Maybe.  Probably.  But we'll never know.  And just because a team could beat the state champ in the next classification up doesn't mean they could win the state title in that class.  Anything can happen in 1 game...but the road to the title is completely different for each classification.  It speaks volumes not even having a competitive game until about round 4.  I'm sure every team could perform better at JerryWorld if all of their kids were fresh when they got there.

Well, you're good at what you practice.  Generally, your run based offenses like Wing -T, slot T, or anything like that, you're mainly going to practice running so the QB will be good at other things like play faking, running, blocking.  You just don't have many opportunities to practice passing unless you have an exceptional group that comes through.  Teams like Orangefield, Vidor, Bridge City, they'll run, run run, until you stop it.  They're ok with not passing.  But to get to the next level like Pleasant Grove, you have to be consistant passing too... 

THIS....

They beat them because unlike most slot teams they could pass the ball.. however, they did run the ball pretty well against wos

And I dare say that Carthage faced a better Silsbee squad than Newton did based on personnel changes, post hurricane bs, etc, etc.....

Halfway through the 3rd quarter there were more people from Newton there.

The quality of opponent also will effect the newton fan travel.  If you schedule BC, a newton fan will leave their truck broke down in the front yard all week.  If you have WOS scheduled, they will be hitch hiking to napa all week getting parts together to get the truck running for the trip down 87. 

With all due respect..... Newton would get their feelings hurt. 
Every few years Newton goes on a rip and dominates the minor leagues and forgets that they're still Newton.  You can hang with a lot of the middle of the road bigger schools, but it doesn't mean you can step up and hang with the elite big schools.    Carthage would have put 40 on Newton this year.  

I’m not real certain about the Cardinals this year. I’m less connected to the team than I have been in years. I know that we lost a lot of key personnel after the 2016 season, then got absolutely devastated by injuries last year. 
I saw a few positives for the coming year... Dubois has created an absolute army of kids who want to be one of the Cardinal RBs. Hopefully fb Lara has the kind of season that we expected from him last year. Ply looked really good when called up for action last year. It seems like we’ve lost a lot of key pieces on defense this year.  
The whole question to me is whether the kids are in the weight room right now handling their business. You have successful football seasons because of the work you do in the offseason. I’m not sure if these kids want to win football games or just have their senior picture made with a letterman jacket. Time will tell. 
 

Does anybody remember how it ended way back in 2014 when WOS had to fall back to their 4th option at qb? 
With all due respect, they won district the year the year that #12 passed away during a game! 
If you really believe that this is your year because they’ll be starting a new qb, you’re setting yourself up for a bitter disappointment. 
I can’t believe I’m actually talking trash for WOS. 

we all don't wear rose colored glasses. I know they have divisions for a reason and I am glad they do. Carthage had a mean team last year and no I would not want to play them.

Chain gang > young guns
 

With all due respect..... Newton would get their feelings hurt. 
Every few years Newton goes on a rip and dominates the minor leagues and forgets that they're still Newton.  You can hang with a lot of the middle of the road bigger schools, but it doesn't mean you can step up and hang with the elite big schools.    Carthage would have put 40 on Newton this year.  

While most of us recognize the value of choosing to play a good program like Newton in the buildup to district play, not everybody feels that way. 
If you are a coach with big aspirations of moving on in your coaching career, it’s hard to do much with a bad winning percentage. Locking yourself into 2-3 guaranteed Ls each year isn’t a good way to get a better paying gig. 
Plus, a big school playing Newton is kinda like picking a fight in a gay bar. You can’t brag if you win, but you’d better not lose. 

once again don't let a few rotten apples spoil the barrel. I don't think anybody is running scared. I've always wanted to play WOS. Win or lose( lost more than we won 1- 7) always could get a good feel about the team from that game.