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Has it ever been good other than a handful of 1-2 year(s) runs of decent players?

One act play??

Do you have the link? I'm not seeing it the tswa page.

Nobody's expecting perfect. Just thrown some periods in there every once in a while... There's no need to seem ignorant when spellcheck can do the work for you. And it's *those. Rattle those gums.. not them.

Punctuation matters.

Sam Harrell is a friend of mine.. and arguably one of the most inspiring comeback stories in all of sports... and Alvarez took over a job with a recent history of success at that time.

There has to be something going on here.. Even though Hardin has been terrible all year, they put up more of a showing than this. They were at least around 30 in every district game (according to maxpreps).

I have no doubt in anything you've typed here. Do you honestly think that's unique to Carthage? Considering the number of coaches that travel the state over emulating exactly what all successful coaches do in order to bring to their program.. And considering the coaches that may have left Carthage after seeing what success looks like.. I know you don't believe that Carthage is the only school with great coaches down to JH, focuses on small details, and has that type of pride within the young kids in town. Surely you don't think that.

So 31% of Texas high school football coaches are elite coaches? That seems high...

Who's blaming kids? It's not the kids' fault when they just smaller, weaker, or slower than state championship caliber athletes. Now.. a coach can help/motivate them to get bigger, stronger, and faster. Possibly more so than any other coach. And some coaches will give those kids a better chance to win than many other coaches. But sometimes it's not enough. That's not kid blaming. That's reality. There's not a 5'6, 145 kid in the world that realistically blames their old coach that they didn't get into the NFL. But you.. you're saying that an "elite coach" can win a title with a team full of average to below average kids. You're the dodo bird in this argument.

There was mucho sarcasm in my post that you replied to. A joke, in fact. Anyone with any sense knows that it isn't the coach's fault when they obviously have nothing to work with.

Only in high school football. You forgot that part..

What's the percentage of state champion coaches that only won one?

I'm excited to hear the explanation for this stat.... 39 exceptions to the rule is quite a few.

When you win a championship or more.. then come back to the SAME SCHOOL and go 23-21, who's fault is it? Who should get the blame.. because you know it's gonna be placed somewhere. I'm curious now.

No matter how many examples you give, it will be an "exception to the rule".

Sounds like you're a kid blamer. He would absolutely have West Hardin winning a state title within 7 years. Max.

I'm not proposing anything. I don't know that anything can be done, actually. In fact, one could argue that it was all of the things I mentioned that money buys that made it possible for kids without the God given athleticism to be competitive. It just got out of control in that direction. Suggestions? I don't have any. There will always be haves and have nots unfortunately.

You can't make a donkey win a race horse... no matter how good the trainer is.

Even though money can have less impact the smaller the classification... because one or a handful of stud players can change an entire season.. Let's see who knocked out Newton and WOS going back to 2010 10-11 Newton- C.H. Yoe 11-12 Newton- Crockett 12-13 Newton- C.H. Yoe 13-14 Newton- White Oak 14-15 Newton- Waskom 15-16 Newton- Franklin 16-17 Newton- Arp 17-18 Newton- State Title over Gunter 18-19 Newton- State Title over Canadian 19-20 Newton- Daingerfield 20-21 Newton- Omaha Paul Pewitt 21-22 Newton- Waskom 22-23 Newton- Harmony 10-11 WOS- Brookshire-Royal 11-12 WOS- Coldspring 12-13 WOS- Navasota 13-14 WOS- Carthage 14-15 WOS- Gilmer 15-16 WOS- State Title over Celina 16-17 WOS- State Title over Sweetwater 17-18 WOS- Pleasant Grove 18-19 WOS- Silsbee 19-20 WOS- Silsbee 20-21 WOS- China Spring 21-22 WOS- China Spring 22-23 WOS- Bellville You really wanna compare facilities of many of these schools that made them exit? Not all.. but many..

How many schools in the state have never been past round 3? What if a school has never in its history won 2 playoff games in the same year and hardly ever even makes the playoffs? What if it's a school like Sabine Pass.. or Warren? You know.. habitual punching bags. Then a coach starts making the playoffs consistently and maybe wins a playoff game every once in a while. Still need to be fired for not getting to at least 4th round in 7 years?

In a way, it does correlate to athleticism. Because players with access to money, state of the art facilities, personal trainers, proper nutrition, adequate sleep habits, etc. will likely be in better physical shape than a kid without access to those. It's not the RULE, but it definitely makes it more likely. By the way, and I've been clear about this, it's referring to a LIKLIHOOD. There are always and will always be exceptions. I don't understand why that's so hard to understand. By the way.. which years are you talking about? 20-21 was Austin Westlake and Katy. 21-22 was Northshore and Austin Westlake. Include the 5A champions... Aledo, Guyer, Katy Paetow... you not familiar with the areas? Even if you're correct about 3 out of 4 including this year, look at the last 10 years. Or 15.. list the football state champions for 4A/5A/6A and tell me the percentage of those communities that have an average household income higher than the state average. Not to mention the state champs in all other sports. If you don't see that communities with money have a higher likelihood of success in athletics (not to be confused with athleticism), then your eyes are closed.

Yeah, I'm done. It's like arguing with a wall anyway.

There isn't anything I've posted that's difficult to understand. If you think I agreed with you then you stopped reading at, "it's most certainly easy". Because otherwise you would've seen me say that the reason he had a mediocre stretch was because he had mediocre players.

By agreeing with me, you're admitting that the "7 year program" doesn't work without players good enough to win. Which is what we've all been saying for several pages now.