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Even though we are letting 3 and 4 teams make the playoffs these days, it's still a big deal to those teams to make the playoffs. Success is definitely measured differently by folks but to say a school is not successful in a sport because they have not won a state championship is ludicrous.

[quote name="sleepy" post="815027" timestamp="1277747147"] [quote author=football10 link=topic=70692.msg815025#msg815025 date=1277746852] In Anahuac they do a universal offseason.  They made the playoffs in football. They made to the Regional Finals in basketball. They made the playoffs in Baseball and sent 23 kids to regionals in track.  They lift and do agility everyday but game day.  Universal offseason works. [/quote] It works at the 2A level.  Not at 3A and above! [/quote] So, it's okay if East Chambers and Kountze uses the universal theory. True Clueless, are you listening. ;)

I am hearing that there is a change in the Silsbee scrimmage schedule. According to some of the Kirbyville fans, Silsbee is too scared to even scrimmage Kirbyville therefore Silsbee is opting to scrimmage either Southlake Carroll or North Shore. Also, WOS has asked Silsbee to drop LCM from their scrimmage schedule so that they can get a piece of LCM since they do not play them in the regular season any longer. Silsbee and Nederland may be scrimmaging each other now. ::) ::) ::) ::) ;D

As for universal training goes, this is how I feel and how some coaches that I know feel about it. I am in agreement with this following statement: Universal off- season should be just that, workouts performed during each sports offseason. The basketball problem is this: the athletic period is when most of the peripheral and  basic skill work takes place ie.. inbounds plays, special situation work and plays, position specific work, rebounding,dribbling, and shooting drills, etc. In football much of this same time is spent working "peripherals" such as kickoffs, punts, returns (both k/o and punt) among others and in both sports team work is usually reserved for afterschool practices, (putting  all the work together). The way universal off -season is being run deprives other sports of this valuable time while allowing football to remain able to use this same valuable time. The other sports deserve to have this time as well when they are "in season". This says it all.

[quote name="stevenash" post="814993" timestamp="1277737161"] [quote author=sleepy link=topic=70692.msg814981#msg814981 date=1277735044] [quote author=AggiesAreWe link=topic=70692.msg814977#msg814977 date=1277732270] I have a question. I totally understand the arguements for both sides of this topic of "universal training". But my question is this, what are schools like HJ and Kountze doing to enhance their football programs? Football at these schools are greatly lacking in success. Why is that? Is it because they don't do "universal training"? [/quote] Come on AAW there is not a school in the state of Texas that does not do ENOUGH to make there football program succesful.  Very weak and you know why HJ is not winning in football.  [/quote] If you are going to compare football to basketball, you must consider the numbers involved.  If you have 6 solid basketball players, you  have a great chance to do well.  You need three times that many to have that same chance on the football field.  I wonder why Lufkin Hudson has such a good basketball program.  I dont think it has anything to do with Universal Off Season. [/quote] Again, another bad example. Hudson does not play football. My question was what were schools like HJ and Kountze doing to enhance their non -successful football programs. I was not questioning if they were doing enough or not.

[quote name="speechless" post="814985" timestamp="1277735291"] Aaa....that was my point exactly about ponder thnx for proving it... [/quote] I believe the topic was of comparison. If you don't play the other sport (football) obviously you have more time to devote to basketball skill training. I think using an example of a school that doesn't play both sports is not a fair example of this subject matter. BTW, nice use of the 3rd person. ;)

[quote name="sleepy" post="814981" timestamp="1277735044"] [quote author=AggiesAreWe link=topic=70692.msg814977#msg814977 date=1277732270] I have a question. I totally understand the arguements for both sides of this topic of "universal training". But my question is this, what are schools like HJ and Kountze doing to enhance their football programs? Football at these schools are greatly lacking in success. Why is that? Is it because they don't do "universal training"? [/quote] Come on AAW there is not a school in the state of Texas that does not do ENOUGH to make there football program succesful.  Very weak and [b]you know why HJ is not winning in football[/b].  [/quote] Why? What about Kountze?

[quote name="speechless" post="814980" timestamp="1277734827"] Got one word for ya...ponder....think they spend their time in off season while they were busy winning three of the last four state titles [/quote] They haven't been playing football up until this season. ;) Bad example.

I have a question. I totally understand the arguements for both sides of this topic of "universal training". But my question is this, what are schools like HJ and Kountze doing to enhance their football programs? Football at these schools are greatly lacking in success. Why is that? Is it because they don't do "universal training"?

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I don't think you can label Silsbee as a basketball school. Yes, we have had more success in that sport, but Silsbee prides themselves on being good in every sport. I think it has shown over the last several years in that Silsbee has had more success in multiple sports than the other 21-3A schools, both boys and girls combined. Of course it does help that Silsbee is the largest school in the district. ;) Football is still king in Silsbee, but basketball has had more success. Bottom line, if you are to label Silsbee, it should be an Athletic school. ;D

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I can speak for Silsbee's AD in that he wants all the school's sports to succeed. McGallion knows what kind of success the basketball program at Silsbee has had for many decades. He is not going to do anything to jeopardize that success. I think it's not fair to be lumping every AD into your assessments of how school athletics are run.

[quote name="Wildcatter" post="814603" timestamp="1277477568"] Disagree, [b]if you look at WOS last year those were straight bball kids on the court[/b].  All I am saying is I watched kids last year who were having to max out on game day because a football coach said they should.  My son plays fball as well and his time was spent on game day watching film not maxing out. In order for our baseball team to be able to use their period as they wanted the kids would have to be at the fieldhouse before school to complete their off season workout even though most did not even play football.  All I am saying is if you are going to do it on bball game day do it on the beloved Friday night.  [/quote] It's my understanding that Francis, Villory-Griffin and Cotton all played football. Those were three of the five starters for the Mustang basketball team. Only Davis and Budwine did not play football.

[quote name="knows2much" post="814556" timestamp="1277436111"] here's the difference between the "known" basketball programs (kountze, silsbee, hj, ozen).  1st of all, they don't have to worry about the football coach taking them on game days because a lot of those kids, [b]the better ones especially, are strait basketball kids. [/b]  Also, kids at those schools play basketball RELIGIOUSLY all year.  ALL YEAR.  Those kids have open gyms once or twice a week throughout the year.  Football season, BASKETBALL season, summer, it doesn't matter.  They play all of the time.  That's why they're good. Plus they have tremendous athletes.  That never hurts.  Hamshire doesn't have those types of athletes, or play enough [/quote] A little FYI. Silsbee's basketball roster for last season had only 5 straight basketball players on the team with 8 football/basketball players on the team. Three of the straight players started (Stallworth, Jones and Thomas) and 2 of the football players started (Hill and Lane). Next season's roster looks to have the same number of straight and football players but it looks as though only two of the straight players will start (Stallworth and Harris). Lane, Gaines and one of the Barrett twins will start and each of them play football. There is still speculation that a couple of these straight players may play football this season. ;)

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I believe East Chambers has established themselves over the years as a very successful basketball program in this area, no disputing that fact. Only clueless and foolish people would think otherwise. ::) I do agree though, [b]IF[/b] ;) there were lifting on game day, that's not helpful.

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[quote name="True Blue" post="814351" timestamp="1277342586"] [quote author=alice link=topic=70622.msg814212#msg814212 date=1277297531] trueblue why is Blaine not playing summer league? Did he do any serious damage to his knee a couple of weeks back? [/quote] No he did not hurt it that bad I think it scared him more than anything. He is at camps the next 3 weeks, SFA, Texasprep, and Im not sure were in week3 .But he should be there tomorrow night in Kountze.[b] And the real reason I have picked WOS so high I might know who their next coach is going to be[/b]. Cant say for sure but if the rummer is true they will be better than some people ( Aggie) thinks. [/quote] A new coach can make a difference, but sometimes that difference is not good. But, regardless of who the coach might be, WOS lost too much to contend for the district title. They could get 3rd agian. BTW, Silsbee's JV dominated WOS's JV last year, winning both games by an average of 22 points. ;)

[quote name="bmrm" post="814209" timestamp="1277296584"] [quote author=AggiesAreWe link=topic=70622.msg814169#msg814169 date=1277256676] [quote author=True Blue link=topic=70622.msg814168#msg814168 date=1277255515] Like I said that is JMO from what I have seen this summer. Silsbee looks to be a one man team, but they might have players not playing in the summer games. And I also know that summe games or just that summer games but you can see if they have talented players, and sorry I have just seen one in Sislbee , he is real good but it is hard to be a one man team at the 3a level. But no were have I said that Silsbee would be week I said that there will be good games between all three teams. And Aggie you never heard me say that he would not see the floor ;)  But Kelly I am basing my pick on seeing Sislbee play but looks like maybe not all of their players. That is what I love about this site If you make a pick that is not what Aggie thinks is right you get attacked or they deleate you acount ;D Just hope that one of these days he makes that attack face to face :o [/quote] Nobody has attacked. ::) I never said that you said he wouldn't see the floor. Actually, that talk came from HJ people. ;) Folks tell you that you are clueless because of the statements that you make are not accurate. Example, you say that Silsbee and WOS are close but you obviously don't know each team well enough. I stated that Silsbee has had the upper hand over the last several years over WOS which is far from being close. Also you stated that WOS had several top players that were juniors yet the 4 players that made all district and 88% of the team scoring last year were from seniors. Then you say that HJ's JV would beat most of 21-3A's varsity teams. That's ridiculous! Comments like these make you look very foolish. Like I said, before making these "opinions", do a little more research next time. ;) [/quote] If memory serves, when HJ played @ WOS last year it was senior night for the Mustangs.  Someone correct me if I'm wrong, but out of all the kids in uniform for WOS that night, there were only two or three that were not introduced as seniors.  I would think WOS would be a little weaker this year with the majority of their talent graduating last year.    [/quote] You are not wrong, bmrm. WOS lost a lot to graduation. True Clueless obviously lacks knowledge.