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I remember it well and made a few social media posts about it. It also showed that Qualified Immunity didn’t stop the police officer from a 60 prison sentence for falsifying a probable cause affidavit. Obviously that long sentence was not for perjury but that the perjury led to a Felony Murder charge.
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In both cases I believe that they are open to being charged in a crime. That is to say that they have no Qualified Immunity that protects them from criminal prosecution (as in all cases). Both cases resulted in intentionally or knowingly killing a person (Texas culpable mental states) so Murder unless under self defense which is the issue. Everyone knows who did it and the results. The only real question in my opinion is whether there is proof beyond a reasonable doubt that it was clearly not a case of self defense. Without knowing Minnesota or federal laws on self defense, I will rely on Texas law only as a similar situation. The shooting of Good in my opinion clearly has reasonable doubt that it was not Murder. I don’t think the agent had the culpable mental state (as I have seen claimed numerous times) of, I know that I am not in danger but here’s a chance to take out a protester. If this incident happened locally, I would expect a No Bill from the grand jury. I have no clear opinion on Pretti but I lean toward the same results but not as clear. In Good the agent was alone and we could see what happened for the most part. In Pretti at the speed in which it happened and agents (possibly including the shooter) yelling gun and the continued struggle, I believe that it would take some definitive information that the agent knew that no one was in danger and merely chose to take out a demonstrator. Unlike Good, we have no clear video of what happened in the scrum as the one video called it. As you know that the burden is always on the government to prove the case beyond a reasonable doubt. Only as an anecdote, I was the supervisor on scene of a homicide where two guys confronted each other outside of a club about a block away from the entrance. One guy pulled a gun and fired it, possibly to scare the other guy away. It worked and the other guy left. However….. He walked about a block away in the other direction, got a pistol out of his car, came back and confronted the guy who fired the shot and then shot and killed him. I said at the scene that it was clearly Murder because it wasn’t a stand your ground case in my opinion. The suspect had left the scene and was out of danger since the guy who fired the shot didn’t follow him. He came back to the scene, now armed, to continue the argument and ended up killing the other guy. The DA did not get an indictment from the grand jury. Obviously by law it’s the grand jury‘s opinion and not the DA’s but it was clearly a Murder under Texas law (intentionally or knowingly took another person‘s life) but with self defense as a defense to prosecution. Obviously the DA could likely have pushed for an indictment and let a trial jury make the call (a principle which I do not believe in) but apparently there was a reasonable doubt in the opinion of the DA that they could not overcome in front of a jury. It does not matter if the guy was guilty. What matters is the proof beyond a reasonable doubt. If a jury is 90% sure that a crime was committed, that to me is not guilty. It is the same standard everywhere. The elements might change depending on jurisdiction. It is the same in the Pretti case for now. Is there body cameras which show a clear picture of what happened and the agent knew that no one was in danger? That’s possible but I believe that is what it would take to bring criminal charges. So Good in my opinion should be a No Bill unless there’s evidence that hasn’t been made public which is always possible. Pretti is in limbo but that in my opinion means no case unless there is evidence that hasn’t been made public. The other agent grabbing Pretti’s pistol before the shots were fired will probably have no bearing unless it can be shown that the agent shooting knew that the danger had been removed and had time to respond. More in a layman’s terms, if an issue is debatable then there is no proof beyond a reasonable doubt. If it is beyond debate or the evidence clearly shows that there was no reasonable belief of possible serious bodily injury or death, it should be brought to trial. Notwithstanding that a defense will always claim there is a reasonable doubt. Do you think there is evidence beyond a reasonable doubt, in what is now public information, that the agent knew that there was no threat under split second decision making under the Supreme Court ruling in Graham v. Connor?
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Homan's full press conference with questions & answers. He also mentions the networks that are organizing people against law enforcement have justice coming. I’d believe him if I were them. He doesn’t impress me as a bluffer. About 35 minutes. But, a good listen. [Hidden Content]
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How the Top 10 fared thru this week's games (Tuesday/Wednesday) 6A/5A 1. Atascocita defeated #5 Humble 60-54 2. Beaumont West Brook defeated Port Neches-Groves 69-43 3. Beaumont United defeated #7 Baytown Sterling 73-60 4. North Shore defeated Goose Creek Memorial 75-56 5. Humble lost to #1 Atascocita 60-54 6. Barbers Hill defeated Port Arthur Memorial 61-40 7. Baytown Sterling lost to #3 Beaumont United 73-60 8. CE King lost to Summer Creek 87-83 9. West Fork defeated Splendora 64-59 10. Crosby defeated Kingwood Park 48-44 4A/3A 1. Livingston defeated Liberty 96-57 2. Onalaska defeated Anderson-Shiro 113-70 3. Orangefield defeated Warren 84-37 4. Bridge City defeated West Orange-Stark 77-54 5. Hardin-Jefferson defeated #8 Hamshire-Fannett 86-72 6. East Chambers defeated Kirbyville 62-51 7. Huntington defeated Central Heights 39-33 8. Trinity defeated New Waverly 55-47 9. Hamshire-Fannett lost to #5 Hardin-Jefferson 86-72 10. Huffman off 2A/1A/Private 1. Chireno defeated #8 Shelbyville 60-46 2. Brookeland defeated Burkeville 77-25 3. Sabine Pass lost #4 Big Sandy 68-66 4. Big Sandy defeated #3 Sabine Pass 68-66 5. Beaumont Legacy defeated Chinquapin Prep 48-14 6. San Augustine defeated West Sabine 51-37 7. Corrigan defeated Hemphill 69-61 8. Shelbyville lost to #1 Chireno 60-46 9. Chester defeated Goodrich 51-22 10. Spurger defeated Hull-Daisetta 56-46
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It does happen. I don't know how many people remember this one. But, it put a big stain on HPD for a while. [Hidden Content]
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Deport all illegals. Report anyone suspected of being an illegal in your neighborhood or job to 1-866-DHS-2-ICE (1-866-347-2423), the official 24/7 U.S. Immigration and Customs Enforcement (ICE) Tip Line - it is now active.
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I am usually humored on social media on how many people believe that Qualified Immunity protects an officer/agent from being charged in a crime.
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More than I love white conservatives who like to arrest and/or kill them They’re sending them whether legal or not. Deport first, ask questions later..
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UIL Realignment Live Broadcast Mon Feb 2 8:45am
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Yes. While LEO's operate under fairly static rules, the threats to them are as real as they were to me. The only difference is that my conduct under DOD was regulated differently on each assignment by mission specific Rules of Engagement. So, no interdiction was ever exactly the same from a legal standpoint.
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ANOTHER ICE SHOOTING IN Minneapolis
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2026 CLASS 1A REGION III DISTRICT FINISH PREDICTIONS
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EastTexas1AFan replied to KF89's topic in High School Baseball
I hope they fix these districts, everyone is auto bid to playoffs except 2 districts. Why does district 23 have 2 teams and district 24 with 5. Same with district 22 they have 4 but others only have 1 or 2. The alignments don't even make sense..... 24 - Brookeland, Chester, Burkeville, Zavalla, Apple Springs 23 - Broaddus, Martinsville 22 - Neches, Kennard, Wells, Centerville 21 - Oakwood, Slocum, North Zulch Easy fixes = Zavalla to District 23 - Neches to District 21 - Apple Springs to 22 Everyone at least would then have 3 teams in the district and something to play for. -
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thetragichippy replied to thetragichippy's topic in Political Forum
You should really read the link I posted. -
ANOTHER ICE SHOOTING IN Minneapolis
thetragichippy replied to thetragichippy's topic in Political Forum
CNN is trying to say there is a change in tone😂 There is no change in tone…if you are here illegally, you are gone! -
In your opinion did the officers violate the law?
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ANOTHER ICE SHOOTING IN Minneapolis
thetragichippy replied to thetragichippy's topic in Political Forum
Welp…… Homan made it clear they are not walking away from Minneapolis….Staying until the problem is gone. They will draw down agents ONLY if there is cooperation from local police and jails…. He ALSO mentioned and supported Kristi Noem -
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8 minute video explains it so simply, even a liberal could understand. I know it doesn’t fit the narrative, but it explains reality. For those living in Disneyland, you’re too far gone anyway….
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Under duress?
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Should we sit outside and honk our horns if we see an illegal?
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Bell was a gorgeous lesbian. Where are the liberal comments on their fearless leader? Please, stand up and protect your Somali fraudster. Funny, y’all protect this thief but cry because Trump sold Bibles. What he did was legal. You people have no direction and follow anyone who hates Trump. That’s policy? Lmao
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Big if at the end of the day. If you violate the law the government will not protect you if it is outside the scope of your duties. If you do violate it can be costly.
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Now we know why Maduro was snatched and brought to the U.S. We needed to have someone with election integrity relook at and monitor our elections.
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The treasonous politicians of Georgia are trying to accuse Trump of stealing thier fraudulent ballots from 2020. The squirming has begun. Lol
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I guess the conspiracy theorists are about to be right again. Lol
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Imagine that, if you didn’t violate the law then you can’t be personally sued.
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2 Border patrol agents placed on Administrative leave. Bavino was not being honest when he said the agents were still working in other states. [Hidden Content]