Carthage at West Orange-Stark

[bullets13]

10 hours ago, BBfan061 said:

I don’t even know if it’s a handful that could… off the top of my head in 4A D2 I’d say  La Vega… Nothing against the mustangs I’m just not gonna include them with that group yet… But I’ll be there Friday night and I hope they prove me wrong 

Pleasant Grove is another, they only lost by 14 to them last year. Last year Athens lost to Carthage 61-56. They’re 4-0 so far this year. I’m just saying, there’s a couple of teams out there that can keep it close under the right circumstances. 

[house]

Keep in mind the Carthage starters almost never finish the game.  Typically their opponent will score once or twice at the end of the game.  Surratt will normally pull the starters as soon as he can.  

[AggiesAreWe]

15 minutes ago, house said:

Keep in mind the Carthage starters almost never finish the game.  Typically their opponent will score once or twice at the end of the game.  Surratt will normally pull the starters as soon as he can.  

Just like any other coach in a blow out.

[keepitcas]

12 minutes ago, AggiesAreWe said:

Just like any other coach in a blow out.

Actually there are way too many coaches out there that who are more focused on running up the score as high as they can. 

[prepballfan]

Lets go WOS upset everyones thoughts on the game. 

[AggiesAreWe]

8 minutes ago, keepitcas said:

Actually there are way too many coaches out there that who are more focused on running up the score as high as they can. 

Most I have seen in my lifetime of watching high school football they let off the gas.

Now they may keep the offense producing yards and points, but it's with the backups. And that's what was discussed.

[keepitcas]

I think this game is going to be a toss up. By the comments here it seems some of y'all are trying to lay a dramatic foundation for an epic upset.  Unfortunately WO-S thirst for revenge is not valid - these are not the exact teams that played for the state championship. WO-S is pretty much the same unit returning most if not all starters. Carthage on the other hand lost A LOT and therefore have a lot of new parts and first year starters. They have some ares they are figuring out.  I don't think it will be an upset if WO-S wins this game. 

[keepitcas]

2 minutes ago, AggiesAreWe said:

Most I have seen in my lifetime of watching high school football they let off the gas.

Now they may keep the offense producing yards and points, but it's with the backups. And that's what was discussed.

and i was referring to the fact not all coaches do that - there are indeed too many that will keep starters in the game regardless of the score. Hell there are even some who can be up 3+ scores, call a timeout with a minute left in the game to score again. Seen that too many times with my own eyes. 

[bullets13]

5 minutes ago, keepitcas said:

I think this game is going to be a toss up. By the comments here it seems some of y'all are trying to lay a dramatic foundation for an epic upset.  Unfortunately WO-S thirst for revenge is not valid - these are not the exact teams that played for the state championship. WO-S is pretty much the same unit returning most if not all starters. Carthage on the other hand lost A LOT and therefore have a lot of new parts and first year starters. They have some ares they are figuring out.  I don't think it will be an upset if WO-S wins this game. 

it'll most certainly be an upset if WOS wins.

[AggiesAreWe]

6 minutes ago, keepitcas said:

and i was referring to the fact not all coaches do that - there are indeed too many that will keep starters in the game regardless of the score. Hell there are even some who can be up 3+ scores, call a timeout with a minute left in the game to score again. Seen that too many times with my own eyes. 

I'm not saying that there are not a small faction of coaches that fit your bill. But they are in the vast minority.

[keepitcas]

4 hours ago, bullets13 said:

Pleasant Grove is another, they only lost by 14 to them last year. Last year Athens lost to Carthage 61-56. They’re 4-0 so far this year. I’m just saying, there’s a couple of teams out there that can keep it close under the right circumstances. 

actually the most recent matchup between Carthage and Athens was 63-28.

 

2 minutes ago, bullets13 said:

it'll most certainly be an upset if WOS wins.

You are just trying to create bulletin board material and a foundation for a possible documentary-worthy moment. But the facts are this:  these are not the same exact teams from the championship game in December, for the most part WO-S stayed intact but Carthage is still figuring things out with so many first-year starters.  Carthage is vulnerable. 

[bullets13]

7 minutes ago, keepitcas said:

actually the most recent matchup between Carthage and Athens was 63-28.

 

You are just trying to create bulletin board material and a foundation for a possible documentary-worthy moment. But the facts are this:  these are not the same exact teams from the championship game in December, for the most part WO-S stayed intact but Carthage is still figuring things out with so many first-year starters.  Carthage is vulnerable. 

literally 6 weeks before that game they played and it was 61-56. so you missed my point there, apparently. but the vast disparity in scores makes mine, which was that a team with the right weapons that catches carthage on the right night always has a chance, no matter how small. and you are putting a lot of thought into what is merely a comment on a forum. I don't care who wins this game. In fact, I hope carthage beats them by 50. It might help my team out two weeks later. 

[AggiesAreWe]

Pretty much across the board Carthage is the favorite. From 6 points up to 27.

A WO-S win would definitely qualify as an upset no matter how many the Mustangs have returning and what Carthage is "figuring out".

Just in our pickems here on the site, out of 33 folks so far that have picked the game. 32 has picked Carthage.

[89Falcon]

26 minutes ago, keepitcas said:

I think this game is going to be a toss up. By the comments here it seems some of y'all are trying to lay a dramatic foundation for an epic upset.  Unfortunately WO-S thirst for revenge is not valid - these are not the exact teams that played for the state championship. WO-S is pretty much the same unit returning most if not all starters. Carthage on the other hand lost A LOT and therefore have a lot of new parts and first year starters. They have some ares they are figuring out.  I don't think it will be an upset if WO-S wins this game. 

Team that just lost to Bay City is not going to be in a “toss up” with Carthage. If WOS wins it will be a great upset. 
 

 

[BBfan061]

57 minutes ago, keepitcas said:

I think this game is going to be a toss up. By the comments here it seems some of y'all are trying to lay a dramatic foundation for an epic upset.  Unfortunately WO-S thirst for revenge is not valid - these are not the exact teams that played for the state championship. WO-S is pretty much the same unit returning most if not all starters. Carthage on the other hand lost A LOT and therefore have a lot of new parts and first year starters. They have some ares they are figuring out.  I don't think it will be an upset if WO-S wins this game. 

Definitely a upset… no need to lay a foundation for that

[BBfan061]

43 minutes ago, keepitcas said:

actually the most recent matchup between Carthage and Athens was 63-28.

 

You are just trying to create bulletin board material and a foundation for a possible documentary-worthy moment. But the facts are this:  these are not the same exact teams from the championship game in December, for the most part WO-S stayed intact but Carthage is still figuring things out with so many first-year starters.  Carthage is vulnerable. 

Which results from Carthage’s first three games show they are vulnerable?