ANOTHER ICE SHOOTING IN Minneapolis

[Reagan]

16 minutes ago, bullets13 said:

Not sure if that’s sarcasm or not. Still dodging my question. 

No sarcasm.  Without any video, it’s my opinion that she was shot by a rogue cop.  

[Big girl]

3 hours ago, UT alum said:

He never drew his legal weapon.

They disarmed him then they executed him

[Big girl]

1 hour ago, baddog said:

Both were ex-cons with one being a sex offender. Rittenhouse was acquitted of all charges.

It is legal to carry a concealed weapon in that state.

[DCT]

54 minutes ago, Reagan said:

Take the leftest radicals away and let ICE do their job, these killings would not have happened.  So, no, it has nothing to do with training.  

He was sprayed with O/C struck multiple times to the face with what appeared to be the OC canister and taken to the ground by 5 to 6 officers.  Every officer shouting instructions.  Gun is removed  and victim is shot 9 times at close range. Sounds like proper training?

[OlDawg]

In the midst of all the details of these incidents, I’m still confused on when it became okay for people to interfere in an active law enforcement scene.

[Reagan]

7 minutes ago, DCT said:

He was sprayed with O/C struck multiple times to the face with what appeared to be the OC canister and taken to the ground by 5 to 6 officers.  Every officer shouting instructions.  Gun is removed  and victim is shot 9 times at close range. Sounds like proper training?

Again, if the radicals were not there — there would have been no shooting!   So, how would lack of training fit into this scenario?!

[thetragichippy]

3 minutes ago, OlDawg said:

In the midst of all the details of these incidents, I’m still confused on when it became okay for people to interfere in an active law enforcement scene.

It’s crazy…..I remember being called racist when I agreed with jury/cops decisions on “unarmed black man”…..now we have a white guy armed with a weapon getting in the middle of police business, and I’m hearing he had a right to conceal carry…..so, the only common denominator is they don’t like cops…..because I’ve said this on several social media sites, if you don't teach your kids to comply and not resist or fight the cops, it’s child abuse…..there is a risk for every decision people make….if I drink and drive and hit a telephone pole and kill myself…..did I deserve to die? No, but that decision put me there……

Until people stop blaming everyone else for their poor decisions, nothing is going to change….I’m not lowering my standards, both of the deaths were because of stupid, dumb and illegal decisions they both made. 

[Porter]

26 minutes ago, thetragichippy said:

It’s crazy…..I remember being called racist when I agreed with jury/cops decisions on “unarmed black man”…..now we have a white guy armed with a weapon getting in the middle of police business, and I’m hearing he had a right to conceal carry…..so, the only common denominator is they don’t like cops…..because I’ve said this on several social media sites, if you don't teach your kids to comply and not resist or fight the cops, it’s child abuse…..there is a risk for every decision people make….if I drink and drive and hit a telephone pole and kill myself…..did I deserve to die? No, but that decision put me there……

Until people stop blaming everyone else for their poor decisions, nothing is going to change….I’m not lowering my standards, both of the deaths were because of stupid, dumb and illegal decisions they both made. 

Yep

[DCT]

1 hour ago, Reagan said:

Again, if the radicals were not there — there would have been no shooting!   So, how would lack of training fit into this scenario?!

“President Donald Trump said he was placing his border czar, Tom Homan, in charge of the mission, with Homan reporting directly to the White House, after Bovino drew condemnation for claiming the man who was killed, Alex Pretti, had been planning to “massacre” law enforcement officers, a characterization that authorities had not substantiated”

 

Excerpt From

“Border Patrol chief to leave Minneapolis as Trump reshuffles the leadership of his immigration crackdown”

The Associated Press

 

[Porter]

1 hour ago, DCT said:

He was sprayed with O/C struck multiple times to the face with what appeared to be the OC canister and taken to the ground by 5 to 6 officers.  Every officer shouting instructions.  Gun is removed  and victim is shot 9 times at close range. Sounds like proper training?

 

[DCT]

19 minutes ago, Porter said:

 

There was no avoidance confrontation or deescalation.  Which is apart of training. You just gave a perfect example.
 Bravino has just been replaced.

[Porter]

6 minutes ago, DCT said:

There was no avoidance confrontation or deescalation.  Which is apart of training.  Bravino has just been replaced.

It’s really not that hard to not get shot by law enforcement.

[OlDawg]

5 minutes ago, DCT said:

There was no avoidance confrontation or deescalation.  Which is apart of training.  Bravino has just been replaced.

We won’t know that for sure until/unless the BORTAC agent’s body cam footage is released. Only then will we see what happened before the released videos shot by onlookers. It’s been reported that multiple agents still had body cams, and they were on.

[DCT]

1 minute ago, OlDawg said:

We won’t know that for sure until/unless the BORTAC agent’s body cam footage is released. Only then will we see what happened before the released videos shot by onlookers. It’s been reported that multiple agents still had body cams, and they were on.

I’m sorry, I thought you not speaking.  Thank you for responding.

[DCT]

7 minutes ago, Porter said:

It’s really not that hard to not get shot by law enforcement.

I wish that was a true statement.  You have great officers and then you have bad ones.  Remember New Orleans?

[OlDawg]

6 minutes ago, DCT said:

I’m sorry, I thought you not speaking.  Thank you for responding.

I have no clue what you’re talking about. Half of your posts, you quote yourself. Not sure what you’re doing to do that. But, it makes it hard to know who you’re talking to. You responded to one of my posts to Lumberton earlier today, and then started responding to your own posts again. That’s what we’re talking about. Go look back at your earlier posts today.

[DCT]

3 minutes ago, OlDawg said:

I have no clue what you’re talking about. Half of your posts, you quote yourself. Not sure what you’re doing to do that. But, it makes it hard to know who you’re talking to. You responded to one of my posts to Lumberton earlier today, and then started responding to your own posts.

It ms hard typing with old and chubby fingers on a IPhone and be left handed.

[DCT]

8 minutes ago, DCT said:

It ms hard typing with old and chubby fingers on a IPhone and be left handed.

Just ask the mods how many times I make corrections. As I get older I find myself repeating.  I believe that comes with aging.  Need more ginkgo bIlona.

[OlDawg]

5 minutes ago, DCT said:

Just ask the mods how many times I make corrections.

You just did it again. lol

If you want to add/edit, use the 3 dots in the upper right-hand corner of your post & select edit and then resave. Either that, or reuse my post again instead of yours. That way, it makes more sense who you’re talking to/about.

[OlDawg]

27 minutes ago, DCT said:

Just ask the mods how many times I make corrections. As I get older I find myself repeating.  I believe that comes with aging.  Need more ginkgo bIlona.

Ha! May want to try Qunol Turmeric cause that ginkgo biloba ain’t cutting it. 😉

[Reagan]

7 minutes ago, OlDawg said:

Ha! May want to try Qunol Turmeric cause that ginkgo biloba ain’t cutting it. 😉

Concerning DCT, should we be respecting our elders?!  🤷‍♂️😁

[bullets13]

3 hours ago, Reagan said:

No sarcasm.  Without any video, it’s my opinion that she was shot by a rogue cop.  

How have you never seen the video? This video is worth a watch. This is a fairly conservative lawyer who breaks down shootings and other political and criminal things. If you don’t want to spend 20 minutes watching the whole thing, I’d start around the 3:30 min mark and watch until about the 8:00 min mark. It shows the shooting to some degree. It definitely shows the mob trying to break down the barricaded door and the cops with guns already out on the other side. If you really want a clear look of her climbing through the window and falling back out of it, you can find it online.

 

[UT alum]

2 hours ago, Reagan said:

Again, if the radicals were not there — there would have been no shooting!   So, how would lack of training fit into this scenario?!

That argument has zero credibility. If there had not  been radicals in the Capitol on January 6, 2021, no cops would have been killed. Radicals exist. That don’t excuse murder.

[TheMissingBand]

I think one of the more telling things is this… no actual police experts are coming out and saying “good shoot. This is how we train our officers to respond.”

You have the right to blow a whistle. You have the right to film police work. You have a right to yell, insult, or even curse police. You have a right to carry a gun. You have a right to peacefully protest. What the police don’t have is the right to do is initiate contact, “accidentally” kill you, then say “well, he was a terrorist. if Democrat leaders weren’t encouraging people to do these things, he wouldn’t be dead.” Which pretty much sums up the last two killings by MAGA agents and the immediate response from the right. 
 

The main problem is that we’re all so short sighted. After events like this, either side can be like “well, sucks for y’all” and then be completely blindsided when the other side escalates the conflict. Somebody is out there right now thinking… “oh, yeah? How can I hit those fascists back?” The same people who cried about Charlie Kirk seem pretty “okay” with protestors getting gunned down. And vice versa…. People who were excited about CK’s passing are FURIOUS about what happened in Minnesota. We should all be disgusted by both events. I encourage each of you to look at a family photo and try to decide which of your family members are most likely to be lost if an actual conflict breaks out. Because the reality is that we’ll all lose people if both sides don’t figure out how to turn down the heat before it all blows up. It’s easy to get on here and spam post on behalf of “our” side, but reality exists beyond our screens. 

[Porter]

👏👏👏👏

Now the governor and mayor of Minnesota and Minneapolis want to cooperate. Lol