South Oak Cliff Football Player Arrested For Shooting Teammate Just Hours After Championship Win!

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[Lamar1996]

6 hours ago, Reagan said:

 

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Just horrible…maybe this will wake up their coaches and quit wearing Death Row gear on the sideline of a high school football event.  

[Matthew328]

10 minutes ago, Lamar1996 said:

Just horrible…maybe this will wake up their coaches and quit wearing Death Row gear on the sideline of a high school football event.  

Death Row is just a nickname for the defense like the Chain Gang was for WOS, etc.....they've been using that for years but no one noticed it until they started winning state..

This is a simple case of adults making a poor choice to rent an Air BNB for a bunch of HS kids...the kids decide to shoot a rap video and play with guns that were loaded.....its kids being dumb....leaving HS boys unsupervised in a house is a receipe for bad behavior and they are lucky someone wasn't killed....

[89Falcon]

26 minutes ago, Matthew328 said:

Death Row is just a nickname for the defense like the Chain Gang was for WOS, etc.....they've been using that for years but no one noticed it until they started winning state..

This is a simple case of adults making a poor choice to rent an Air BNB for a bunch of HS kids...the kids decide to shoot a rap video and play with guns that were loaded.....its kids being dumb....leaving HS boys unsupervised in a house is a receipe for bad behavior and they are lucky someone wasn't killed....

I didnt "notice" until I read a headline about a SOC player shooting a teammate. What does "Death Row" have to do with? Anything to do with certain types of imagery? Like rap videos with guns? 

[Matthew328]

39 minutes ago, 89Falcon said:

I didnt "notice" until I read a headline about a SOC player shooting a teammate. What does "Death Row" have to do with? Anything to do with certain types of imagery? Like rap videos with guns? 

Death Row was a rap record label in the 90s...and yes their rap videos had guns in them (geez I sound like an old man lol)...but I dont think the nickname of the defense had anything to do with these kids making a poor choice...the defense could have been named Sunshine and Daffodils and they probably would have done this...kids do dumb things all the time......I had a cousin who got drunk w/his friends in HS (parents left them home for the weekend..not smart) and they decided to play russian roulette...luckily one of the kids who wasn't drunk saw what they were doing and put a stop to it

[89Falcon]

8 hours ago, Matthew328 said:

Death Row was a rap record label in the 90s...and yes their rap videos had guns in them (geez I sound like an old man lol)...but I dont think the nickname of the defense had anything to do with these kids making a poor choice...the defense could have been named Sunshine and Daffodils and they probably would have done this...kids do dumb things all the time......I had a cousin who got drunk w/his friends in HS (parents left them home for the weekend..not smart) and they decided to play russian roulette...luckily one of the kids who wasn't drunk saw what they were doing and put a stop to it

The defense could have definitely been named "Sunshine and Daffodils" but instead they were named "Death Row". Coincidentally, there was an incident where the kids happened to be portraying the specific imagery associated with "Death Row" and one of the players got shot and one got arrested (also imagery associated with Death Row). 

When drastic and violent events happen with your program, you can expect newfound scrutiny. Its all fun and game till someone gets shot.

[Matthew328]

1 hour ago, 89Falcon said:

The defense could have definitely been named "Sunshine and Daffodils" but instead they were named "Death Row". Coincidentally, there was an incident where the kids happened to be portraying the specific imagery associated with "Death Row" and one of the players got shot and one got arrested (also imagery associated with Death Row). 

When drastic and violent events happen with your program, you can expect newfound scrutiny. Its all fun and game till someone gets shot.

Agree that comes with the territory when you win....dont think the scrutiny will impact how SOC as a football program conducts business inside their 4 walls

[Austin1985]

12 hours ago, Matthew328 said:

Death Row was a rap record label in the 90s...and yes their rap videos had guns in them (geez I sound like an old man lol)...but I dont think the nickname of the defense had anything to do with these kids making a poor choice...the defense could have been named Sunshine and Daffodils and they probably would have done this...kids do dumb things all the time......I had a cousin who got drunk w/his friends in HS (parents left them home for the weekend..not smart) and they decided to play russian roulette...luckily one of the kids who wasn't drunk saw what they were doing and put a stop to it

That's a great rendering of death row records but I heard an announcer say during the SOC/Randle game that it was harder scoring on SOC than it is to get off death row.... Trust me, I cringed every time I heard 'Death row defense' exclaimed by the announcer..... 

So far, my xpectations of this subject are surprising.  I figured by now it would be 15 pages of back and forth etc.  Thank for the personal story @Matthew328.  The grand conclusion is everyone from the parents to the players excerized poor judgement.  Glad no one was killed 

[89Falcon]

1 hour ago, Matthew328 said:

Agree that comes with the territory when you win....dont think the scrutiny will impact how SOC as a football program conducts business inside their 4 walls

No doubt. Increased scrutiny when players are shooting each other as well. A lot of programs out there where players never shoot each other. 

[Separation Scientist]

2 hours ago, Matthew328 said:

Agree that comes with the territory when you win....dont think the scrutiny will impact how SOC as a football program conducts business inside their 4 walls

The problem is how the SOC program affects things outside their four walls. Shades of past Dallas Carter players.  

[badndn]

3 hours ago, Austin1985 said:

That's a great rendering of death row records but I heard an announcer say during the SOC/Randle game that it was harder scoring on SOC than it is to get off death row.... Trust me, I cringed every time I heard 'Death row defense' exclaimed by the announcer..... 

So far, my xpectations of this subject are surprising.  I figured by now it would be 15 pages of back and forth etc.  Thank for the personal story @Matthew328.  The grand conclusion is everyone from the parents to the players excerized poor judgement.  Glad no one was killed 

I think the explanation of how the name came about is great.  Funny actually. This was very poor adult supervision and judgement. Seen it growing up in our neighborhood as well. Glad no one died. Still wanna face SOC at  AT&T instead of Bryan TX each year. UIL gotta get this right in 2026. 

[1970]

40 minutes ago, badndn said:

 Funny actually. This was very poor adult supervision and judgement. Seen it growing up in our neighborhood as well. Glad no one died. Still wanna face SOC at  AT&T instead of Bryan TX each year. UIL gotta get this right in 2026. 

Yep, plain 'ol stupid, all the way around, regarding the reported "accident".  Prayers for both the shooter and the victim. 

I too want to see a re-match at ATT, not Bryan.  Dang if PNG would have had the offense clicking.  We played SOC better than Randle did. I think we would have beat Randle with the Soph QB.  

[Darth Texas]

The “death row” moniker had absolutely nothing to do with what happened here. This was dumb kids being irresponsible with guns, and certainly in the orbit of even dumber and more irresponsible adults. What the defense calls itself is irrelevant to this tragedy.  

[Matthew328]

5 hours ago, Separation Scientist said:

The problem is how the SOC program affects things outside their four walls. Shades of past Dallas Carter players.  

I think thats going a little overboard and context is key....the Carter kids were committing armed robberies and terrorizing the community...planning and intentionally doing these things....

This was kids being stupid and an accident happened....

[89Falcon]

2 hours ago, Darth Texas said:

The “death row” moniker had absolutely nothing to do with what happened here. This was dumb kids being irresponsible with guns, and certainly in the orbit of even dumber and more irresponsible adults. What the defense calls itself is irrelevant to this tragedy.  

You have no idea if the “Death Row moniker” had anything to do with it. One thing for certain, it is a settled and indisputable fact that the kids were doing and portraying the absolute exact same thing that were done by Death Row artists in their videos. 
 

Still quite a bit of information to be found out on the incident. 

[Matthew328]

20 minutes ago, 89Falcon said:

You have no idea if the “Death Row moniker” had anything to do with it. One thing for certain, it is a settled and indisputable fact that the kids were doing and portraying the absolute exact same thing that were done by Death Row artists in their videos. 
 

Still quite a bit of information to be found out on the incident. 

My guess is many of the kids involved have never seen a Death Row artist music video....the heyday of Death Row records was the late 1990s and by the early 2000s (before these kids were born) the label was irrelevant...they were probably portraying things they see online, social media etc...but I highly doubt Death Row Records had anything to do with it....no way to know for sure but most teenagers I know aren't watching music videos from the 1990s 

[Darth Texas]

47 minutes ago, 89Falcon said:

You have no idea if the “Death Row moniker” had anything to do with it. One thing for certain, it is a settled and indisputable fact that the kids were doing and portraying the absolute exact same thing that were done by Death Row artists in their videos. 
 

Still quite a bit of information to be found out on the incident. 

“The affidavit does not clarify why Mayfield was holding a gun or who it belonged to.” (From the article linked above). 
 

You need to revisit your definition of “settled” and “indisputable.” 

[89Falcon]

11 minutes ago, Darth Texas said:

“The affidavit does not clarify why Mayfield was holding a gun or who it belonged to.” (From the article linked above). 
 

You need to revisit your definition of “settled” and “indisputable.” 

I guess we will need to wait for more information to make and judgement one way or another. 

[Darth Texas]

Is there any kind of go fund me for this kid? This is an opportunity to reach across the football aisle and give SOC some support from SETX. 

[prepballfan]

Prayers to the injured player and his family and school family. Also prayers to the shooters family. This is terrible news with a horrible outcome. Hopefully everyone ends up ok. Pure tragedy after winning state. Hope this doesn't override their accomplishments. Heard the injured players wishes were that it did not. hope some lessons or learned so these young men can carry this into their future and some good can come from tragedy. 

[prepballfan]

20 hours ago, Austin1985 said:

That's a great rendering of death row records but I heard an announcer say during the SOC/Randle game that it was harder scoring on SOC than it is to get off death row.... Trust me, I cringed every time I heard 'Death row defense' exclaimed by the announcer..... 

So far, my xpectations of this subject are surprising.  I figured by now it would be 15 pages of back and forth etc.  Thank for the personal story @Matthew328.  The grand conclusion is everyone from the parents to the players excerized poor judgement.  Glad no one was killed 

 I know you aren't a praying man. These are kids we are talking about. I could not agree with you more. Whether we like what SOC does is irrelevant when it comes to kids safety. Why?, How? Negligence, doesn't matter. The kids being ok does. The rest will be figured out. Praying for this injured young man and the shooters family. Praying some good can somehow come from this tragedy.