West Orange-Stark vs Carthage - State Final

[BBtater984]

GREAT season WOS... The computers and some dudes say you already lost.

 So the only thing left to do is to make the trip, shake their hands, congratulate them on winning, and drive back home. 

[mat]

 

1. Carthage has earned the right to be the favorite
2. WOS has earned the right to attempt an upset
3. Not all WOS fans are represented by the vocals on this site
4. WOS fans have had legitimate reasons to be skeptical or unhappy.
5. For a few years the program has underperformed to expectations
6. H Hickman appeared to have fallen short 
7. H Hickman has now earned the respect of even most doubters
8. Maybe a new era has begone?
9. Some people will never be happy

[Gasilla]

10 minutes ago, mat said:

 

1. Carthage has earned the right to be the favorite
2. WOS has earned the right to attempt an upset
3. Not all WOS fans are represented by the vocals on this site
4. WOS fans have had legitimate reasons to be skeptical or unhappy.
5. For a few years the program has underperformed to expectations
6. H Hickman appeared to have fallen short 
7. H Hickman has now earned the respect of even most doubters
8. Maybe a new era has begone?
9. Some people will never be happy

Agreed

[ctown81]

46 minutes ago, BBtater984 said:

Wrong... you do NOT have to opt up in all sports. 

Yeah that's been pointed out 

[ctown81]

39 minutes ago, BBtater984 said:

GREAT season WOS... The computers and some dudes say you already lost.

 So the only thing left to do is to make the trip, shake their hands, congratulate them on winning, and drive back home. 

Are you really this sensitive or is this just a gimmick? 

[ctown81]

13 hours ago, ladybug33 said:

 

Not gonna lie, I like the coach and the team culture. Very impressed. 

[JBizzle]

4 hours ago, house said:

I disagree.  Surratt, Preston, and staff will have a game plan totally focused on what WOS does.  Ninety percent of WOS offense is one guy running the ball.  Carthage has at least one running back that is clearly superior to Jefferson but Surratt will always have a balanced attack.   This will be very lopsided.  

I know you disagree.  That's ok.  Sometimes, it doesn't take a complex scheme.  Sometimes you just have some dudes that can get it done.  I still think Carthage wins, just think it will be a decent game.  It's ok that you don't.

[JBizzle]

Y'all really sound like some losers talking about "why doesn't Carthage opt to play up?"  Like, why would they do that?  They are squarely in the middle of D2 numbers.  Because they are successful?  The schools mentioned that opted to play up probably did so for travel purposes, not because they thought it would be fair to the rest of D2.

[89Falcon]

2 minutes ago, JBizzle said:

Y'all really sound like some losers talking about "why doesn't Carthage opt to play up?"  Like, why would they do that?  They are squarely in the middle of D2 numbers.  Because they are successful?  The schools mentioned that opted to play up probably did so for travel purposes, not because they thought it would be fair to the rest of D2.

In SETX, schools only opt up to play against lesser competition. Travel is not a factor. 

[house]

44 minutes ago, JBizzle said:

I know you disagree.  That's ok.  Sometimes, it doesn't take a complex scheme.  Sometimes you just have some dudes that can get it done.  I still think Carthage wins, just think it will be a decent game.  It's ok that you don't.

Thank you for allowing me to have a different opinion.  

[BevBrownJr]

17 hours ago, ladybug33 said:

 

Impressive young man!

What are his statistics (carries, yards, TDs, etc.) for this season?

[marshman]

4 hours ago, mat said:

 

1. Carthage has earned the right to be the favorite
2. WOS has earned the right to attempt an upset
3. Not all WOS fans are represented by the vocals on this site
4. WOS fans have had legitimate reasons to be skeptical or unhappy.
5. For a few years the program has underperformed to expectations
6. H Hickman appeared to have fallen short 
7. H Hickman has now earned the respect of even most doubters
8. Maybe a new era has begone?
9. Some people will never be happy

Numbers 4-7 are spot on. There’s no question many things were changed those first two years and the facts show it didn’t turn out for the better. Beginning last year they got back to more of what made Mustang football so successful and the results are speaking for themselves. He and his staff have earned more respect.  I just feel very badly for the kids that played those first two seasons. All their young life they dreamed of wearing that silver hat and following in the footsteps of those that played before them and they were caught up in an experiment that went wrong. Many don’t actually place alot of the responsibility on Hickman and his staff for that, it mainly fell on the previous superintendent Ricky Harris. He wanted so badly to show the world that WO-S could be successful doing things differently and with a different style and we all seen how that turned out. 

Good luck to Hickman and his staff and the Mustangs on Friday.  Orange is proud of yall. 

[WOSdrummer99]

27 minutes ago, marshman said:

Numbers 4-7 are spot on. There’s no question many things were changed those first two years and the facts show it didn’t turn out for the better. Beginning last year they got back to more of what made Mustang football so successful and the results are speaking for themselves. He and his staff have earned more respect.  I just feel very badly for the kids that played those first two seasons. All their young life they dreamed of wearing that silver hat and following in the footsteps of those that played before them and they were caught up in an experiment that went wrong. Many don’t actually place alot of the responsibility on Hickman and his staff for that, it mainly fell on the previous superintendent Ricky Harris. He wanted so badly to show the world that WO-S could be successful doing things differently and with a different style and we all seen how that turned out. 

Good luck to Hickman and his staff and the Mustangs on Friday.  Orange is proud of yall. 

Well said. The others #s are also true

[89Falcon]

46 minutes ago, marshman said:

Numbers 4-7 are spot on. There’s no question many things were changed those first two years and the facts show it didn’t turn out for the better. Beginning last year they got back to more of what made Mustang football so successful and the results are speaking for themselves. He and his staff have earned more respect.  I just feel very badly for the kids that played those first two seasons. All their young life they dreamed of wearing that silver hat and following in the footsteps of those that played before them and they were caught up in an experiment that went wrong. Many don’t actually place alot of the responsibility on Hickman and his staff for that, it mainly fell on the previous superintendent Ricky Harris. He wanted so badly to show the world that WO-S could be successful doing things differently and with a different style and we all seen how that turned out. 

Good luck to Hickman and his staff and the Mustangs on Friday.  Orange is proud of yall. 

WOS fans trying to backtrack and justify their behavior. 

[marshman]

6 minutes ago, 89Falcon said:

WOS fans trying to backtrack and justify their behavior. 

No sir not at all. 

[wo-s#1]

36 minutes ago, marshman said:

No sir not at all. 

Might as well give it up, he and the other few been waiting on this for 4 years so they could say told you so.

[prepballfan]

Good luck WOS PN-G is rooting for you

[A BUC 77]

Well, there is a lot of schools in the state Texas that would love to be in WOS shoes and would be thankful for a coach Hickman.  No reason to question him.  That I see.  I could be wrong though, for I am just a mere mortal.

[BBtater984]

17 hours ago, 89Falcon said:

WOS fans trying to backtrack and justify their behavior. 

Envy isn't a good look.

[ctown81]

21 hours ago, WOSdrummer99 said:

Well said. The others #s are also true

@ProfDMac i went back to check older posts from this season. This was BY FAR the #1 Hater of the Coach.  My petty ahh would have him banned from Cowboy Stadium. 🤣🤣🤣.

[ProfDMac]

3 minutes ago, ctown81 said:

@ProfDMac i went back to check older posts from this season. This was BY FAR the #1 Hater of the Coach.  My petty ahh would have him banned from Cowboy Stadium. 🤣🤣🤣.

🤣😂😂😂😂…dang shame. A tragedy, actually…the nerve of this guy! 🤣

[ladybug33]

22 hours ago, BevBrownJr said:

Impressive young man!

What are his statistics (carries, yards, TDs, etc.) for this season?

I'm not sure about all of his stats except he has become the leading rusher in WOS history. T D's more than 25 I'm sure I'm wrong about that.

[WOS00]

3 minutes ago, ladybug33 said:

I'm not sure about all of his stats except he has become the leading rusher in WOS history. T D's more than 25 I'm sure I'm wrong about that.

He’s also the first RB in WOS history to reach 2k yards in a single season.

[ladybug33]

2 minutes ago, WOS00 said:

He’s also the first RB in WOS history to reach 2k yards in a single season.

Amazing and he is just a junior

[WOS00]

36 minutes ago, ladybug33 said:

Amazing and he is just a junior

I know!!! He is all around a very special person.