Breaking News - TRUMP to release EPSTEIN files and client list!

[Reagan]

8 minutes ago, DCT said:

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It really is sad.

No, the sad part is this is fake news by this far-left commie rag.
From the article, “MS NOW justice correspondent Ken Dilanian told Mika Brzezinski on "Morning Joe…”.   MS NOW changed their name but is also still a commie rag.  The people mentioned are far left.  Again, opinions — not facts!

[bullets13]

6 hours ago, Porter said:

I believe I have already agreed with you on this point but that is obviously not good enough, it’s not always about Trump. This administration has an opportunity to blow this wide open and they’re passing on it and hiding information from the public. Did you watch the judiciary hearing with Pam Bondi the other day? It was embarrassing and this was Trumps response. Trump is tone deaf! It’s not ALL about him! The law he signed called the Epstein Files Transparency Act got almost a unanimous vote from Republicans and Democrats 
which rarely happens. 

 

 

Everybody hates on CardinalBacker, but he's hit the nail on the head when he talks about people ignoring a lot of really bad behavior/poor performance and circling the wagons around Trump. we're seeing more of it in this thread, including the continual deflection/pretending that the whole Epstein thing is an effort to get at Trump. I'm with you completely on the ideas that 1) this is much bigger than Trump (although if the ish sticks to him let him wear it) and 2) he's handled the whole situation horribly, shielding powerful people just as Biden did (either actively or through omissions and redactions).

[LumRaiderFan]

29 minutes ago, DCT said:

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It really is sad.

The evidence is mounting, according to Morning Joe!

Solid!

[DCT]

10 minutes ago, LumRaiderFan said:

The evidence is mounting, according to Morning Joe!

Solid!

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Hope this helps.

[LumRaiderFan]

13 minutes ago, bullets13 said:

Everybody hates on CardinalBacker, but he's hit the nail on the head when he talks about people ignoring a lot of really bad behavior/poor performance and circling the wagons around Trump. we're seeing more of it in this thread, including the continual deflection/pretending that the whole Epstein thing is an effort to get at Trump. I'm with you completely on the ideas that 1) this is much bigger than Trump (although if the ish sticks to him let him wear it) and 2) he's handled the whole situation horribly, shielding powerful people just as Biden did (either actively or through omissions and redactions).

CB’s criticism was laser focused on Trump, never had anything much to say about the previous dumpster fire of an administration.

You can call it ignoring bad behavior, but many folks, like myself, hate some of his antics but when I see a secure border and lower crime, I’ll take the trade off, don’t see anyone else getting it done.

I don’t know why things aren’t developing faster with the Epstein files and neither do you, I simply choose not to call him the pedo President like some do until proof comes out saying otherwise, if that’s circling the wagons, so be it.

And yes, there are many folks, some on this board, that will lose interest in this immediately if Trump is found out to not be involved.

[LumRaiderFan]

3 minutes ago, DCT said:

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Hope this helps.

We’ll see, if true, doesn’t look good.

More needs to corroborate this than morning joe and this particular congresswoman.

I would be curious to know why they would track her, if this is true.

[DCT]

21 minutes ago, LumRaiderFan said:

We’ll see, if true, doesn’t look good.

More needs to corroborate this than morning joe and this particular congresswoman.

I would be curious to know why they would track her, if this is true.

I don’t know. However, the photo seems to collaborate.  As stated by the victims Trump has done nothing wrong. Take the gloves off.  

[Porter]

1 hour ago, LumRaiderFan said:

Exactly right, that’s why the outrage from the left rings hollow, they’re not concerned about the victims, it’s all about get Trump.  If and when he is proven to have no involvement, this goes away.

There’s no doubt the left is trying get Trump but their was plenty of outrage from the right when Bongino and Patel were building up their podcast on how if they were in charge they would Hammer the Deep State from Epstein Clients to the Russia Hoax to the J6 situation. This list goes on. They even wrote books on how they were going to hammer all those situations! They said they knew where the bodies were buried metaphorically speaking. Well they were put in charge (FBI DIRECTOR AND ASSISTANT DEPUTY DIRECTOR) and guess what? Bongino only lasted 9 months then checked out. What an embarrassment. It’s been over a year now and ZERO ARREST OF ANYONE NOTABLE! I hope in the near future I can get on here and celebrate evil people going to prison but I am not going to hold my breath. And if something notable doesn’t change between now and the midterms Trump will be a Lameduck then impeached again. JMO 

[OlDawg]

47 minutes ago, DCT said:

I don’t know. However, the photo seems to collaborate.  As stated by the victims Trump has done nothing wrong. Take the gloves off.  

This isn’t news. Any and all activity in a SCIF is documented and tracked. Always has been. This is just another big hubbub about standard protocol that—if not aware of said protocols—you’d find concerning.

Just about every breath taken, and every temperature variation is tracked in a SCIF. The monitoring personnel can tell if you passed gas & when.

Just info for all using your post to tag onto.

[LumRaiderFan]

26 minutes ago, OlDawg said:

This isn’t news. Any and all activity in a SCIF is documented and tracked. Always has been. This is just another big hubbub about standard protocol that—if not aware of said protocols—you’d find concerning.

Just about every breath taken, and every temperature variation is tracked in a SCIF. The monitoring personnel can tell if you passed gas & when.

Just info for all using your post to tag onto.

Curious, who would be allowed access to this data?

[Porter]

Good grief what a slime ball. Guy says 2005 is the last time he had anything to do with Epstein and that Epstein was Gross. Then 2012 takes his family and kids to Epstein island to have lunch. Then this pops up. 
Trump is inflicting his own wounds. Another bad hire. 

 

[baddog]

Here’s what I’m talking about wide spread sex trafficking. Kids aren’t even safe in school.

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[OlDawg]

1 hour ago, LumRaiderFan said:

Curious, who would be allowed access to this data?

Any number of Intelligence officials. But, it’s typically monitored by 2 guards & what used to be called an OMR supervisor. Not sure what they’re called now.

Those able to see the data being viewed depend on what the data is. Different monitors and approvals for different departments.

I’d think DOJ docs would be on the lower security spectrum end. Probably remotely monitored by FBI for homeland security stuff that doesn’t involve out of state actors or defense.

If documents aren’t redacted that involve foreign assets, or foreign ‘persons of importance’, CIA will step in. Shouldn’t be any DoD issues.

EDIT ADD: The Administration should have made this clear to all before they were granted access. If they didn’t, that’s a failure of communication of protocol on their part. Many of these Congress people have probably never been in a SCIF before, or had access to classified material. SCIF’s are typically used for intelligence or defense issues.

[thetragichippy]

3 hours ago, bullets13 said:

Epstein thing is an effort to get at Trump.

If it was not an effort to get Trump, why all of a sudden did this turn into another “me too” fiasco? 

[thetragichippy]

All the folks that are invested, is this true?

 

Elizabeth Stein

She works for Tides Foundation (soros open society funded) funded World Without Exploitation

They produced the superbowl commercial of "victims" this past weekend

She was a FULL GROWN ASS WOMAN when she met Maxwell at her job at 21 years old

She formed a 3 year *friendship* with Epstein and Maxwell........apparently sexual

She didn't realize she was trafficked until 30 years later when Epstein was sentenced.

She attempted but failed to recover funds from the Victims fund

Maxwell's attorney pointed out she did not legally  qualify as a “crime victim” under the CVRA and she received no payout.  

But she sure did try.

 

[DCT]

1 hour ago, OlDawg said:

This isn’t news. Any and all activity in a SCIF is documented and tracked. Always has been. This is just another big hubbub about standard protocol that—if not aware of said protocols—you’d find concerning.

Just about every breath taken, and every temperature variation is tracked in a SCIF. The monitoring personnel can tell if you passed gas & when.

Just info for all using your post to tag onto.

Was it used in the manner it was intended for? If not, someone has some explaining to do.

[OlDawg]

8 minutes ago, DCT said:

Was it used in the manner it was intended for? If not, someone has some explaining to do.

That I can’t say. All I can say is everything done in a SCIF is tracked and recorded. This is done for security purposes.

I didn’t see the interview y’all say Bondi bombed out on other than snippets here. I DID see the news article with the photo of the notes on Jayapal. They weren’t anything special, and would be typical tracking.

I can understand why Bondi would have notes on what everyone viewed. I wouldn’t necessarily jump to a malicious conclusion. She may have merely wanted to be prepared, since she knew it was going to be a ‘gotcha’ meeting.

How many meetings like that have you seen where the person being grilled couldn’t give an answer because they were caught unaware of what they may be asked? (They were set up for the visuals & press.)

Like I say, I doubt it was nefarious. She knows her job is on the line and wanted to be prepared. But, that’s just my take.

[DCT]

Just now, OlDawg said:

That I can’t say. All I can say is everything done in a SCIF is tracked and recorded. This is done for security purposes.

I didn’t see the interview y’all say Bondi bombed out on other than snippets here. I DID see the news article with the photo of the notes on Jayapal. They weren’t anything special, and would be typical tracking.

I can understand why Bondi would have notes on what everyone viewed. I wouldn’t necessarily jump to a malicious conclusion. She may have merely wanted to be prepared, since she knew it was going to be a ‘gotcha’ meeting.

How many meetings like that have you seen where the person being grilled couldn’t give an answer because they were caught unaware of what they may be asked?

Like I say, I doubt it was nefarious. She knows her job is on the line and wanted to be prepared. But, that’s just my take.

The DOJ claims it logs searches to protect against the release of victim information within the sensitive, unreacted files. Was Bondi utilizing it it that manner?  Probably not.

 

[thetragichippy]

1 minute ago, DCT said:

The DOJ claims it logs searches to protect against the release of victim information within the sensitive, unreacted files. Was Bondi utilizing it it that manner?  Probably not.

 

What if she was using it to collect evidence on Congress people that may be involved with the Epstein case?   Would you be for or against that?

[OlDawg]

5 minutes ago, DCT said:

The DOJ claims it logs searches to protect against the release of victim information within the sensitive, unreacted files. Was Bondi utilizing it it that manner?  Probably not.

 

It’s entirely probable that’s why they’re logging. But, the reason doesn’t really matter. ALL SCIF activity is tracked and logged. That’s the nature of a SCIF. As the Head of the Dept. owning the information, she would have access.

[DCT]

1 minute ago, thetragichippy said:

What if she was using it to collect evidence on Congress people that may be involved with the Epstein case?   Would you be for or against that?

If she was truly going after those involved there would be no allegations of a cover up.

[thetragichippy]

1 minute ago, DCT said:

If she was truly going after those involved there would be no allegations of a cover up.

Really? All we know is what is being released. They(congress)  are trying to interpret redacted emails, accusations from anonymous sources, etc…… a single do or don’t can change the meaning of a redacted document 100%. 
 

Allegations have plagued Trumps terms by Democrats….Russigate…. 

[OlDawg]

14 minutes ago, DCT said:

If she was truly going after those involved there would be no allegations of a cover up.

What I keep saying is, there’s a big difference in someone being named, someone even documented as being there, and being able to prove a criminal case without a doubt when it would probably revert to a circumstantial he said/she said against folks who have the ability to hire the best lawyers on the planet—if you could even get them to trial.

There’s no way you’re getting the foreign actors here to stand trial.

That’s why I keep saying shame and ostracism are probably what we’ll get.

[LumRaiderFan]

22 minutes ago, DCT said:

The DOJ claims it logs searches to protect against the release of victim information within the sensitive, unreacted files. Was Bondi utilizing it it that manner?  Probably not.

 

How do you know that?

[DCT]

1 minute ago, LumRaiderFan said:

How do you know that?

 

1 minute ago, LumRaiderFan said:

How do you know that?

Do you really know? Let's say she was.  Who on that panel would expose the victims?