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23 minutes ago, KF89 said:

NHS409 is speaking facts. Whoever takes the Nederland job has to rebuild the program from the ground up, that will take a few years to get back to competing for district titles & making decent playoff runs.

The district Ned gets put in will be a factor also

I don't think we're that far off we have several 3 year starters back for 2024 just need consistency...my question with the impressive names applying are can Nederland close the deal we've been here before will this time be different 

18 minutes ago, navydawg31 said:

Not talking about Joseph. 

I don't think either one (Joseph or McDaniel) moves out anytime soon 

29 minutes ago, navydawg31 said:

He’s loyal and staying with Joseph until a certain place opens up… 

I think Joseph is going to be here longer than you think I mean he's the Patron Saint of Port Neches and Groves I'm surprised he doesn't have a statue built in his honor yet

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19 minutes ago, navydawg31 said:

Foreman to any open spot in SETX is the running joke on this board. He has thrown his name in the hat to many open spots in the past. 

That joke is almost as bad as Highland Park +1 Foreman isn't coming back here

1 minute ago, Separation Scientist said:

Yeah...AND?  How many topics stay strictly, exactly on subject here?          Hint....NONE

I purposely, proactively added Houston in because I was anticipating these kind of snarky, nonsense replies. 

In any case, nothing justifies repetitively misquoting me.

News flash you're a nobody come join the club 

2 hours ago, Separation Scientist said:

Wrong again. I said SETX + Houston. 

Try reading it again. Its pretty simple.

If you can't read or understand it, that's on you. 

To get back on topic Stepp was the only one who predicted PN-G over SOC so give him credit for that 

7 minutes ago, Separation Scientist said:

Wrong again. I said SETX + Houston. 

Try reading it again. Its pretty simple.

If you can't read or understand it, that's on you. 

South Oak Cliff is DFW PN-G is SETX YOU brought Houston into the discussion unnecessarily 

1 hour ago, outanup said:

Yes....and no post game bar fights....

We take bar fighters on our side of the tracks😄

2 hours ago, Separation Scientist said:

And I clearly stated "SETX or even Houston coaches" in my post.  Did you purposely ignore that to try make a point?

Now you and Stepp both have made inaccurate statements about me. What is the problem? These misquotes need to stop.    

  

On 1/4/2024 at 8:52 PM, Separation Scientist said:

Shocker. 

The post is about DFW and SETX not Houston 

On 1/5/2024 at 11:02 PM, Separation Scientist said:

No doubt. I bet he knows a lot more DFW coaches that he does SETX coaches, or even Houston coaches. 

That's because there's alot more DFW coaches than SETX coaches

1 hour ago, jake94 said:

Update?

Nederland 51 Baytown Lee 46

Final

22 hours ago, Separation Scientist said:

Shocker. 

Stepp knows quite a few coaches😄

3 hours ago, Rez Ipsa said:

Are coaches allowed to challenge calls during the state championship games? I mean, make a challenge during the game that requires a review, like in the pros. 

There are no coach challenges or requests for a review only the replay official determines if and when to stop play for a review.

3 hours ago, Reagan said:

OK, opinion time:  During the above mentioned time frame, at Nederland, even Neuman couldn't bring a team to the big dance.  Why do you suppose that is?!  

Two of those years (1999, and 2000) we played the best team in the state and still to this day two of the best defenses I've seen in Texas City (1999) and Bay City 2000 both those teams were big physical fast and well coached...the 2001 team was not near as talented but played with a ton of heart and once again ran into a team that was more physical than us (Smithson Valley) looking back on it now our best shot at state was really the 1998 team but we fell apart in the 2nd half vs. Bay City that year...fact is Larry Neumann changed the mentality of Nederland when he came in 1993 that mentality has now reverted back to the Pre-Neumann era and I don't see things getting better anytime soon with the current system in place 

 

50 minutes ago, PN-G bamatex said:

We keep having this debate over talent versus coaching. I personally think the right coaching is the most important factor in the success of any program, but I also think we shouldn't ignore the interplay between the two. As I stated in another thread, the best coaches find a way to get the most out of their kids, whether they've got a ton of talent or none. To be clear, I'm not just referring to motivation, or discipline, or execution, or community support and program culture, or adapting a system and a playbook around the personnel. I'm also referring to player development.

A strong strength and conditioning regimen is an important part of any successful football program. Some programs are much better at developing their talent than others. If we're being honest, that's Nick Saban's secret sauce. When Saban brought in Scott Cochran to revolutionize the Alabama weight room shortly after Saban arrived in Tuscaloosa, Alabama became a championship contender in two seasons. Kirby Smart lured Cochran to Georgia to do the same thing plus coach special teams, and then Georgia won back-to-back national championships in Cochran's second and third seasons in Athens. Many Alabama fans, myself included, felt Cochran's absence in Tuscaloosa was the missing factor during the last few seasons when we seemed to lose some of our intensity. Coach Joseph will be the first person to tell you PN-G's success under his tenure started in the Indians' weight room during spring training.

My point is, good coaching will develop talent to realize its full athletic potential. Granted, that relies upon some stock level of talent at the start of the process. Without that development, however, the potential is never reached, and that is almost entirely a factor of coaching.

There is no comparison between PN-G and Nederland when it comes to strength and conditioning...one of these is not like the other😄

7 hours ago, Reagan said:

So, Nederland has the same type athlete available.  One can't be so silly to think otherwise.  Like, what, there's a wall between the two cities and the good kids can only stay on one side?  It's easy to complain.  So, what has been Nederland's problem over these years and what is the answers?  And on the other hand, during these years, why has PNG been so successful?  

I've got alot of thoughts on this

There's not a drastic difference at QB, RB, or WR between the two schools IMO here's where the difference is...

PN-Gs offensive line this past year was the biggest I have ever seen at PN-G they are big and they can MOVE there is no comparison when you compare the offensive line of PN-G to Nederland PN-Gs offensive line can move mountains Nederland's offensive line could get blown over by a small win

PN-G-both offensive and defensive coordinators as well as the offensive line coach won state BEFORE arriving at PN-G

Nederland-not a single coach had ever won state 

PN-G is making the run that it is because of coaching the greater emphasis on defense and technique and the size of the offensive line all of those things Nederland has none of.

I also don't think it's a facility issue nor is it a community support issue

I'll close with this when Brandon Faircloth left PN-G the schoolboard made a decision we're going to go out and get the best coaches we can and it has paid off in spades...Nederland schoolboard doesn't care about being the best instead the priority is on what your last name is and if you're a good ol' boy or not...it's actually reached the point of complacency and contentment with 4 win seasons or less which after Larry Neumann had coached us I thought we would never get back to but here we are

 

A certain coach could take notes from his counterpart across the tracks

 

54 minutes ago, SmashMouth said:

Yep. Smart call whoever decided to do that. 

Sounds like something PN-G planned on all week

 

37 minutes ago, PhatMack19 said:

I don’t know if Katy will ever be “Katy” again with all the new schools opening.  

Same thing happened at Plano too much talent dilution

39 minutes ago, pine curtain said:

does anybody have the game stats?

FULL GAME SOC Port N

FIRST DOWNS 11 19

Rushing 8 7

Passing 3 9

Penalty 0 3

NET YARDS RUSHING 108 102

Rushing Attempts 29 32

Average Per Rush 3.7 3.2

Rushing Touchdowns 2 1

Yards Gained Rushing 152 120

Yards Lost Rushing 44 18

NET YARDS PASSING 54 179

Completions-Attempts-Int 5-12-0 14-24-0

Average Per Attempt 4.5 7.5

Average Per Completion 10.8 12.8

Passing Touchdowns 0 0

TOTAL OFFENSE YARDS 162 281

Total offense plays 41 56

Average Gain Per Play 4.0 5.0

Fumbles: Number-Lost 3-1 0-0

Penalties: Number-Yards 7-65 4-20

PUNTS-YARDS 2-109 2-49

Average Yards Per Punt 54.5 24.5

Net Yards Per Punt 54.5 24.5

Inside 20 0 1

50+ Yards 2 0

Touchbacks 0 0

Faircatch 0 0

KICKOFF-YARDS 4-211 5-198

Average Yards Per Kickoff 52.8 39.6

Net Yards Per Kickoff 36.2 23.2

Touchbacks 1 0

Fair Catch Yards 24 0

Punt returns: Number-Yards-TD 0-0-0 0-0-0

Average Per Return 0.0 0.0

Kickoffreturns: Number-Yds-TD 5-82-0 2-17-0

Average Per Return 16.4 8.5

Interceptions: Number-Yds-TD 0-0-0 0-0-0

Fumble Returns: Number-Yds-TD 0-0-0 0-0-0

Miscellaneous Yards 0 0

Possession Time 18:58 29:02

1st Quarter 02:59 09:01

2ndQuarter 07:06 04:54

3rdQuarter 05:43 06:17

4thQuarter 03:10 08:50

Third-Down Conversions 2-9 2-10

Fourth-Down Conversions 2-3 3-3

Red-Zone Scores-Chances 2-2 5-6

Touchdowns 1-2 1-6

Field goals 1-2 4-6

Sacks By: Number-Yards 2-5 4-22

PAT Kicks 2-2 0-0

2Pts Conversions 0-0 1-1

Field Goals 1-1 4-4

Points off Turnover 0 3

Duncanville is whipping North Shore at the LOS 

2 minutes ago, Coach_Izzy said:

Sprint Draw goes 72 yards for a TD! 14-7 DV

Heavyweight fight once again...Duncanville looks better so far

19 minutes ago, WOSdrummer99 said:

Or he could step aside at the right time while the fire is hot for Jr

PNG better open the checkbook

They need to open it up regardless that staff has done an outstanding job

6 minutes ago, navydawg31 said:

Houston people really trying to take claim of PNG state championship win as their own.. lol 

As much as PN-G played in the Houston area this year I can see the claim LOL