hitman009

Crosby 18
King 0
5 inn final

[quote name="TradinUp BH" post="1390666" timestamp="1364872429"]
[quote author=bedelmon link=topic=109970.msg1390661#msg1390661 date=1364871182]
Not trying to rain on any parades but was I wondering if any had played at the professional level... ie NBA or NFL. I know of a few baseball guys that played MLB from HJ.
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Ben Broussard, who grew up in Beaumont, but moved HJ in HS plays for MLB Indians or did. I guess he's still playing.
[/quote]Ben played for McNeece(3 time hitting champ) then drafted by the reds also played for the Indians, Seatle, Rangers, and then was traded to the NYY.  He played AAA for  the Yanks then quit.  I heard he is tring to get back into it again.
Also Tyson Young was drafted out of High School from HJ.
Some others that I know that played college ball.
Basketball
Lamanack, Neil - cant remember where
Spears, Kenyon - Lamar

Baseball
there was one big one that graduated in late 90's that played for the reds. cant remember name
McKeller, Laine - McNeece
Erickson, Tim - Lamar I think
Vaglika, Matt - Angelina
McKeller, Pat - New Mexico, Angelina
Robuck - Lamar
another pitcher that was on the 07 team to Lamar. cant remember his name
Duplant this year already commited

[quote name="adminbaberuth" post="1389992" timestamp="1364567232"]
[quote author=nwkldy link=topic=110649.msg1389963#msg1389963 date=1364560461]
Crosby 3, Porter 0
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Who pitched this shutout for Crosby?
[/quote] Davenport with the Win - 15Ks,  66 K's in JUST DISTRICT. 76 for the year

can a starting player (fielder not batting/being DH for) be a  runner for the Catcher or Pitcher?  What happens if the player is pulled?  can he run then?

Crosby wins

[quote name="Ralph" post="1388669" timestamp="1364233771"]
I would like to see somebody research the top 10 era, k's, wins  in the area so far this season  and  be sure and include what grade level they are in.  I see some info. from fairly far away. I am talking the Golden Triangle area. I try and read Max Preps but some  area coaches will not input their stats to that Website.  I can probably name several. White-Lumb-11th., Guidry-BC-12th, Franklin-Kountze-10th, Marshall-Kountze-10th, A.Anderson-WOS-10th, G. Anderson-WOS-10th, Shugart-BC-10th, Howard -PAM-10th,. Anyhow I obviously do not know all the top Pitchers but someone out there does.
[/quote]according to max preps Davenport is 14 in nation in K's, number 1 in 4A. The kid last year had 89 k's in district alone. 120 for the year

[quote name="hitman009" post="1387417" timestamp="1363878576"]
Tyler Davenport - Crosby- 48 K's already in 26 inn. against top teams.
Santa Fe - 6 K
Babers Hill - 11 K
Dayton - 13 K
2 inn agaist Magnolia West - 4 K
Summer Creek - 14 K

I cant wait to see him develop at Texas State
[/quote]make that 61 k's in 32 inn

Crosby beats KP 6-5. Davenport with 13K in 6 inn

[quote name="BellBiz30" post="1387423" timestamp="1363879094"]
[quote author=GCMPats2 link=topic=110346.msg1387347#msg1387347 date=1363835587]
Why are they playing Friday and Saturday?
[/quote] I dont know but it says Porter @ Dayton on Friday at 6 and Dayton @ BH Saturday at 12 on Daytons schedule.
[/quote]District 19-4A has 9 teams in it.  Makes a team have 2 bye in district which wipes out a whole week.  To prevent this and keep tourn games, the district has some weeks in which they play 3 (Tues, Fri, Sat) games a week instead of 2.

Tyler Davenport - Crosby- 48 K's already in 26 inn. against top teams.
Santa Fe - 6 K
Babers Hill - 11 K
Dayton - 13 K
2 inn agaist Magnolia West - 4 K
Summer Creek - 14 K

I cant wait to see him develop at Texas State

Crosby goes 4-0 in this tournament.  With wins over Magnolia West, Aldine, and Baytown lee and Splendoria.
You are not kidding about Tomball.  I watched them play Deer Park. They looked like a college team taking the field.

[quote name="LAZEEK" post="1383144" timestamp="1362590392"]
Your facts are flat out wrong about Breithaupt and what he did.  My brother in law played for him the entire time he was there.  I was in school during that time as well.  The above posted is EXACTLY correct.  Breithaupt was NEVER the assistant principal BUT was the principal during the 91-92 school year.  He left after that year to the UIL.  During the 91-92 school year Vaughan was the AD and Breithaupt was the hd basketball/principal.  Breithaupt NEVER worked at HJ in ANY capacity where he was not the basketball coach except in the late 70's when he was Jimmy Burke's assistant coach.

As for losing good football coaches, Huckabay left on his own accord BUT, in his last two years HJ was fielding teams with 17 players on the varsity.  Fischer was at HJ from 1996-1997 school year through the 2004-2005 school year.  That is almost ten years as the coach.  I'm not sure where you got three coaches in 7 years.  HJ hasa had TWO football coaches in the last 17 years.

You have a right to your opinion BUT, your facts about when other coaches were here and when they left are dead wrong.  I can assure you of that.
[/quote]My facts are not messed up. We were talking about the 90's coaches. Remember I went to school there.  I Played for Breithaupt and Sutherland. Also played for WEB, your other Head Football/Baseball Coach that you did not count (89-92), Huckabay(92-96), and Fisher(my brothers played for him).  Breithaupt took over the Assistant principal job/responsiblities in 91 like I said when our Assistant Principal (Mr. Dixon) Shot our Superintendant (MR. HILL). I know he was the Assistant Principal because I got in trouble that year and was suspended BY HIM!! Sat in his office and got dog cussed for doing something stupid!!  If you look at his years of Service at UIL it will tell you the same thing.

[quote name="LAZEEK" post="1382839" timestamp="1362509633"]
Breithtaupt was brought in as AD/hd basketball at the 89-90 school year and remained in that capacity through the 90-91 school year, those two years HJ was 8-2 and 7-3 in football.  In the 91-92 school year Breithaupt became the principal/hd basketball and Bruce Vaughan became the athletic director and was already girls basketball coach.  Breithaupt left for the UIL after the 91-92 school year.  Vaughan remained on staff as the AD/girls bball coach until the 97-98 school year and that is when Pat Fischer was brought in.  That was also the same year HJ went to 4A for two years with the smallets enrollment in the state for 4A at that time.  It was Fischer who lead them through 4A before dropping back down and then having the best run of football seasons that HJ has had including a state quarterfinal berth.  HJ's enrollment was at an all time high during Fischer's first 5 years or so and then enrollment began to decline and has ever since until the last few years when HJ went to open enrollment.  That has helped bump enrollment back up.
[/quote]I attened HJ from 89-93. I was always under the influence that Vaughn was the AD.  He was always in the boys off season programs watching.  Breithaupt always stayed with basketball. He never showed his face in the off season. Brithaupt was assistant principal. Did not coach basketball in 93. Brithaupt did not go to UIL until March of 95.
Regardless... HJ was not able to hold on to these good football coaches... Web, Huckaby and Fisher. It is not good for a football program to have 3 different head coaches in 7 years.

I know Sutherland... he is a great coach.. In fact I heard him speak when I was in college.. He started as a football coach.. I know he would do a great job...
I am just saying that HJ will not have any stability in the football program unless they get a AD/football coach.

[quote name="LAZEEK" post="1382767" timestamp="1362498687"]
[quote]Lazeek, every time you post something, it proves my theory... You guys are actually good with the thought that our basketball coach should be the AD... I believe that would hurt our football program because now your not going to get a quality coach... AD's are traditionally football coaches and they want that title... Just tired of the blatant lie that some sports are treated better than others because it just simply isn't true.
Then why would we ever consider giving our AD title to our basketball coach when we live in a state where FOOTBALL is king? Because basketball is the only sport that matters at HJ...[/quote]

Go look at HJ's football past.  Some of their most successful years were when Breithaupt was the AD/Basketball coach and when Bruce Vaughan was the AD/girls basketball coach.  I know for the two years that Breithaupt was the AD the football team went 7-3 and 8-2.  I am not pushing for the basketball coach or for anyone else for that matter.  I am saying that you don't have to have a football/AD in order for football to be successful.
[/quote]I was a part of these seasons along with the 7-2-1 in 93.  Breithaupt was NOT the AD during these times. In fact I don't know if Breithaupt was even a AD there.  I know he was a assistant principal after the tragic shooting by our assistant principal.  He may have taken Vaughn's place in the late 90's in which the football program slipped again after going to 4A for a couple of years.  You are right about Vaughn being AD during the early 90's. But the real question is why they were not able to obtain these coaches like Coach Web and Coach Huckabay.  They wanted the AD title.  They believed that the best interests were not being represented.  That is why they did not stay long.
As long as the AD is in the Basketball hands, HJ will be a jumping ground for ANY coach that comes in.

LAZEEK,
Many of job descriptions and problems that a AD runs into is during Basketball season.  Football is a fall sport that is early.
IMO an AD needs to be a football guy... If you have not found out already football rules in TEXAS.. Most ADs, espically at small schools (one school 4A districts, 3A, 2A, 1A), are all football Coaches.  I dont think it is a good idea to hire a basketball AD.  Right now the HJ community is not complaining about basketball.  It is the rest of the sports that are struggling.

[quote name="LAZEEK" post="1382434" timestamp="1362415143"]
[quote]I REALLY don't want this to get out of hand... all treads on this have been locked. I don't want any wise cracks at the parents, kids, or present/former staff.  I graduated from HJ in early 90's, when I all programs were good... I don't live in the area anymore and I am very interested on what is going in my former area...Once a HAWK always a HAWK..  I would love to hear what the "word on the street" is...

What have you heard??? when will they make a move??? What you got??

Here is what I have heard... please correct me if you heard different.....

Last I heard is they might offer Sutherland the AD/Job.. I believe he was promised the job before he signed BACK on at HJ...

I love the man, but IMO......

I just don't know if he wants it or if it is best for ALL programs...
An AD has lots to deal with instead of just concentrating on just basketball.. I could see more than one parent from the football program complaining that the "athletic kids" are "pushed to play basketball only"... Its already happening(people saying the athletic kids only play basketball) and he is not the AD....
I know Sutherland... He was my former coach in football and basketball... I KNOW he would not do that.. but...
I really believe the WHOLE athletic program would do better if they hired a football AD... Someone that is new.. not a current head coach just wanting to settle, because really that is what you are going to get right now...

Someone REALLY hungry....someone wanting to make ALL programs better... not just basketball and golf.... someone ready to bring in coaches and shake things up.. these are usually 4A, 5A Offense/Defense coordinators.. Someone that is not afraid to step on some toes.. again JMO

SO....

Please no wise cracks... I just what to know what have you heard... What is your opinion(no parent/kid cracks) on the future success of the HJ Athletic Program!!  I would love to hear what you think but in a educated manor...

Go Hawks!![/quote]

What is the difference between a basketball coach being AD and a football coach being AD?  Does a football coach care more for the overall program than the basketball coach?  Not trying to stir it up but, just asking an honest question based on what you posted.  Funny that you say that the better athletes are pushed to play basketball only because the HJ basketball program saw between 8-12 kids not play this year that played last year and several were going to be contributors on the varsity team.  They all had the same reason for not playing:  to get ready for football next year.  I don't think it matters what sport you coach, that has no bearing on your care for the overall athletic program.  By the sound of your post perhaps schools should make the AD positions split from coaching positions.
[/quote]Honestly I believe the best person to be AD of a high school is someone not coaching any sport.  He is just the Athletic Director.. That way he can concentrate on all programs.

As for a basketball coach being AD, basketball is in mid-season sport.  Usually preparations and problems start stirring up around that time.  Orders for next year, budget crunches, coaching assignments, off season programs, UIL, ect.. All come during this time. I am sure that during that time he wants to concentrate on JUST basketball and not have to deal with the added stress and deal with the community during that time not to mention the after hour responsibilities and what is going on during football.. last 2 weeks of football and playoffs are when basketball starts.. 
Most football coaches want the AD job.  Most will not even apply if the AD job is not included...

As for the athletes.. bosha is very athletic.. you cant tell me he would not help the football program..

If i remember right

Pool 1
Huffman 3-0
Dayton 2-1
Ozen 1-2
Davis 0-3

Pool 2
Houston Christian 3-0
Crosby 2-1
Caney Creek 1-2
Nimitz 0-3

Huffman vs Houston Christian for championship!!
dont know how that turned out though..

I REALLY don't want this to get out of hand... all treads on this have been locked. I don't want any wise cracks at the parents, kids, or present/former staff.  I graduated from HJ in early 90's, when I all programs were good... I don't live in the area anymore and I am very interested on what is going in my former area...Once a HAWK always a HAWK..  I would love to hear what the "word on the street" is...

What have you heard??? when will they make a move??? What you got??

Here is what I have heard... please correct me if you heard different.....

Last I heard is they might offer Sutherland the AD/Job.. I believe he was promised the job before he signed BACK on at HJ...

I love the man, but IMO......

I just don't know if he wants it or if it is best for ALL programs...
An AD has lots to deal with instead of just concentrating on just basketball.. I could see more than one parent from the football program complaining that the "athletic kids" are "pushed to play basketball only"... Its already happening(people saying the athletic kids only play basketball) and he is not the AD....
I know Sutherland... He was my former coach in football and basketball... I KNOW he would not do that.. but...
I really believe the WHOLE athletic program would do better if they hired a football AD... Someone that is new.. not a current head coach just wanting to settle, because really that is what you are going to get right now...

Someone REALLY hungry....someone wanting to make ALL programs better... not just basketball and golf.... someone ready to bring in coaches and shake things up.. these are usually 4A, 5A Offense/Defense coordinators.. Someone that is not afraid to step on some toes.. again JMO

SO....

Please no wise cracks... I just what to know what have you heard... What is your opinion(no parent/kid cracks) on the future success of the HJ Athletic Program!!  I would love to hear what you think but in a educated manor...

Go Hawks!!

Tyler Davenport, Crosby 1

[quote name="Farmer Fran" post="1368815" timestamp="1359728843"]
This is a rumor from the old coach site. Has anyone from HJ heard this?

Rumor is, they are making the Basketball Coach the AD and promoting from within.
[/quote]I would not be doubt it.. When I played there the girls bb coach was the AD.... I believe coach sutherland was promised the job before he got there.  also the superintendent is a former basketball player on the 91 state team 

If they hire from out side do you think The OC from Dayton would apply... He is from HJ

[quote name="ace2335" post="1364603" timestamp="1358473203"]
So I guess the only team that even get close to meeting that profile would be WOS in the Golden T. NO ONE ELSE. An their a smaller school around then most.
[/quote]Do you hear about anyone complaining about coaching in WOS??  I don't!! Coach Thompson is a great coach but if you put him in lets say Lumberton, would he be as successful as WOS.. My guess is not baised on tallent.  nothing against the kids in Lumberton, they just dont have as much tallent as the rest.
Now as you drop levels you dont need as many D1, D2 and juco to win based on tallent at the level.. WOS has a bunch for a 3A...
Just seems to me everyone is saying "Coaching" is the problem... but you cant be successful team if your QB cant even throw a screen.  It takes BOTH to win..

[quote name="usedtobe" post="1363685" timestamp="1358275816"]
[quote author=hitman009 link=topic=108211.msg1363672#msg1363672 date=1358274296]
[quote author=5gallonbucket link=topic=108211.msg1363357#msg1363357 date=1358178317]
Why does beaumont with the athletes they have that go div 1, div 2, juco aren't consistent winners in district races?
[/quote] can you give me a number of D1, D2 and Juco kids that will sign this year from each school?
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Man, if you want to know all that info get off your duff and look it up.  Each school?  What, each school in the state of Texas?  I really miss any point that you are trying to make in your request.
[/quote]I have tried looking it up and cant find it otherwise I would just give you the facts.
 
My point is if EACH school in BISD  is getting like 4-7 D1, D2, or Juco a year then you have a justification for complaint of Coaches and success aginst other schools that have less tallent.  If you are getting like 1-3 a year then really you dont have a complaint about coaches. You just dont have the players and are playing other schools like Dawson, Brenham, North Shore that have 4-7 going to the next level. 

I know there has been some big time players come out of BISD but one player does not make a TEAM!!!  You need 22 starting, 4-9 big talent and the rest good enough to do their job....

I dont know the facts of how many each school has each year, but I can guess that it is not as many as yall think..

I would suggest quit tring to set brush fires and the district will benifit!!

[quote name="5gallonbucket" post="1363357" timestamp="1358178317"]
Why does beaumont with the athletes they have that go div 1, div 2, juco aren't consistent winners in district races?
[/quote] can you give me a number of D1, D2 and Juco kids that will sign this year from each school? 

[quote name="bobbymcgee" post="1362296" timestamp="1357781425"]
What makes you think Central will get someone better? Saveat has made some awful hires
Most recently he brought in a guy who 4A Crosby no longer wanted to coach 5A West Brook and he took a perfectly good football program that had made the playoffs seven years in a row and turned it into a doormat.
Saveat has hired is nephew as Ozen basketball coach and Robert Lee as Central basketball coach both of which squander talented teams year in and year out by their inability to coach. He hired John Clayton at Ozen and Jackson at Central. He allowed Stump and Stowers to get away all though those were probably beyond his control.
Letting Washington go was the right move but they also should have done the same with the man who gave him an extra year.
[/quote]Flannigan was a great hire.. Crosby wanted him.. 7 strait playoff appearances... in fact they had a emergency board meeting which people lined up outside to voice there opinion.  Several board members lost there spots because of their disregard of what the community wanted in the last election .... It was the barrett area, really one board member(same one who made Flanigan cancel with Vidor) , that did not want him... the politics here are bad, just like many areas..

I know you think your Bruins were the best before he got there but the fact is Stump left for a reason..... his program was going down.. Talent pool not there.. in fact he had like 30 something freshman players in his program his last year at a 5A school. Now West Brook had a little over 90.  and how did Stump do where he went...3-5 in district.. 

They both will do fine just hard to change a program to your coaching philosophy
Sorry to go off  just think it is classless to take a shot at a coach that does not deserve it

Back to the subject.. IMO I am sure there will be many great coaches that will apply for the job.. but I am sure politics will play role in who is hired.. Beaumont has a history of that.

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I don’t know why yall are still arguing who is better... ya'll are both Georgetown's bitc#*$... heck everyone they played has so don't feel bad... Playoff's are all about matchups...  If Nederland would have played GT in second round they would have be out to... real embarrassing arguing who should be 2nd, 3rd, or 10th place...
Congrats to both teams on a succesful season..