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[quote name="SummerCreek it is!" post="1253350" timestamp="1346182128"] [quote author=HUM398 link=topic=101997.msg1253347#msg1253347 date=1346181871] [quote author=SummerCreek it is! link=topic=101997.msg1253334#msg1253334 date=1346181150] [quote author=HUM398 link=topic=101997.msg1253328#msg1253328 date=1346180556] [quote author=SummerCreek it is! link=topic=101997.msg1253309#msg1253309 date=1346179557] [quote author=RHBoiler link=topic=101997.msg1253127#msg1253127 date=1346163059] [quote author=SummerCreek it is! link=topic=101997.msg1252688#msg1252688 date=1346093115]STOP LIVING IN THE PAST, and our district was not weak....we had 3 weak teams, and remember we were picked to finish 5TH, so that tells you what others thought about our team last year..... [/quote] SCII -- I'm really not trying to bash SC or last year's 18-4A district, but facts are facts. Being open to persuasion, let's hear your view on why you feel SC's schedule and 18-4A overall were not weak. 18-4A was 11-17 in non-district play, with most of the wins against teams like Pasadena S. Houston, Houston Scarborough, Houston Davis and Bayton Sterling. 18-4A was 0-4 in the playoffs, with all of its teams loosing in the first round, by an average of 31-10. The teams they lost to all lost in the second round. SC may make the playoffs this year, but I'd be shocked if they come close to Dayton. Just don't see SC as a top 10 GHA 4A or top 25 state 4A team based on how they faired against last year's opponents and what they lost. [/quote] What I'm telling you is...we were one of those weak teams "supposely" and we ended up sharing the district title...we wasn't even "suppose" to make the playoffs....I believe we they are ranking us because of number of skilled returners, and our 2014 class...just like Dayton is ranked because you have 14 returning starters....Keep in mind Humble, Kp, Willis and Huntsville were not weak teams..just because you lose in 1st round does not mean you are weak...look at Brenham, they lost 1st round to KP, you call them a weak team? I wish the playoffs was based on the best of 3 games...i know thats too much football, but in one game, anything could go wrong...key injuries,etc..where certain kids wasn't playing in the game [/quote] Talent wise those teams weren't weak, but the coaching wasn't up to snuff for any of those teams.  That is what separates great teams from good teams...good teams from average teams.    I love my cats, but they were average to below average last year.  They gave up early, and were terrible in execution.  This team was still able to go toe to toe with Summer Creek....playing that sort of football. I will always root for my fellow HISD teams, but the SC fans need to take a step back and let their kids do the talking.  The Broncos have earned the right to have their fans talk big games. [/quote] Well we are not gonna even talk about the humble game...they went toe for toe against a VERY YOUNG TEAM vs TEAM FULL OF SENIORS, ONLY because of COACHING...that game was suppose to be 70 to 14...honestly...Now quit Tip riding for the Broncos, and OBVISOIUSLY you are from Humble high,and besides, I have no kid playing for Screek, I just know a few of them....What Humble have in store for the district? Can you tell us? ::) [/quote] 70-14 in which direction? I never hide the fact that my team is Humble, in fact i think its pretty apparent given that i have been posting on this board for years...as well as other boards since 2001. oh and my handle is HUM...  No secret who i root for. I have no love for the broncos, just respect for what they built.  Summer Creek hasn't built anything and is demanding respect.  I think you are in store for a little lesson in humility.  What does Humble have in store for the district?  Not sure.  They are rebuilding an entire program, but id imagine that it would be foolish to overlook them on any given friday.  Its a proud program, with a long history.  Im not sure why you deflected to what Humble has to offer.  you worry about the amount of crap you are talking in ratio to how much crow you will be eating if things don't go well.  Enjoy that Humble zoned talent...;) [/quote] Well I guarantee Screek won't lose to Humble...and no kid at Screek is zoned to humble brother! [/quote] You guarantee?  Only thing i can guarantee is death and taxes.    And yes their are over a dozen kids in the program zoned to humble, but were able to move due to humble falling to unacceptable rating 3 years ago.  How do i know this?  I live in the same neighborhood as the varsity starters.  I have friends that work in the athletic office, and i coached against these young men when they were in little league. ;)  Unless they moved over the summer, they are all still very much zoned to Humble.

[quote name="SummerCreek it is!" post="1253334" timestamp="1346181150"] [quote author=HUM398 link=topic=101997.msg1253328#msg1253328 date=1346180556] [quote author=SummerCreek it is! link=topic=101997.msg1253309#msg1253309 date=1346179557] [quote author=RHBoiler link=topic=101997.msg1253127#msg1253127 date=1346163059] [quote author=SummerCreek it is! link=topic=101997.msg1252688#msg1252688 date=1346093115]STOP LIVING IN THE PAST, and our district was not weak....we had 3 weak teams, and remember we were picked to finish 5TH, so that tells you what others thought about our team last year..... [/quote] SCII -- I'm really not trying to bash SC or last year's 18-4A district, but facts are facts. Being open to persuasion, let's hear your view on why you feel SC's schedule and 18-4A overall were not weak. 18-4A was 11-17 in non-district play, with most of the wins against teams like Pasadena S. Houston, Houston Scarborough, Houston Davis and Bayton Sterling. 18-4A was 0-4 in the playoffs, with all of its teams loosing in the first round, by an average of 31-10. The teams they lost to all lost in the second round. SC may make the playoffs this year, but I'd be shocked if they come close to Dayton. Just don't see SC as a top 10 GHA 4A or top 25 state 4A team based on how they faired against last year's opponents and what they lost. [/quote] What I'm telling you is...we were one of those weak teams "supposely" and we ended up sharing the district title...we wasn't even "suppose" to make the playoffs....I believe we they are ranking us because of number of skilled returners, and our 2014 class...just like Dayton is ranked because you have 14 returning starters....Keep in mind Humble, Kp, Willis and Huntsville were not weak teams..just because you lose in 1st round does not mean you are weak...look at Brenham, they lost 1st round to KP, you call them a weak team? I wish the playoffs was based on the best of 3 games...i know thats too much football, but in one game, anything could go wrong...key injuries,etc..where certain kids wasn't playing in the game [/quote] Talent wise those teams weren't weak, but the coaching wasn't up to snuff for any of those teams.  That is what separates great teams from good teams...good teams from average teams.    I love my cats, but they were average to below average last year.  They gave up early, and were terrible in execution.  This team was still able to go toe to toe with Summer Creek....playing that sort of football. I will always root for my fellow HISD teams, but the SC fans need to take a step back and let their kids do the talking.  The Broncos have earned the right to have their fans talk big games. [/quote] Well we are not gonna even talk about the humble game...they went toe for toe against a VERY YOUNG TEAM vs TEAM FULL OF SENIORS, ONLY because of COACHING...that game was suppose to be 70 to 14...honestly...Now quit Tip riding for the Broncos, and OBVISOIUSLY you are from Humble high,and besides, I have no kid playing for Screek, I just know a few of them....What Humble have in store for the district? Can you tell us? ::) [/quote] 70-14 in which direction? I never hide the fact that my team is Humble, in fact i think its pretty apparent given that i have been posting on this board for years...as well as other boards since 2001. oh and my handle is HUM...  No secret who i root for. I have no love for the broncos, just respect for what they built.  Summer Creek hasn't built anything and is demanding respect.  I think you are in store for a little lesson in humility.  What does Humble have in store for the district?  Not sure.  They are rebuilding an entire program, but id imagine that it would be foolish to overlook them on any given friday.  Its a proud program, with a long history.  Im not sure why you deflected to what Humble has to offer.  you worry about the amount of crap you are talking in ratio to how much crow you will be eating if things don't go well.  Enjoy that Humble zoned talent...;)

[quote name="HookEm2013" post="1253303" timestamp="1346179296"] [quote author=HUM398 link=topic=102152.msg1253163#msg1253163 date=1346166266] [quote author=bronco1 link=topic=102152.msg1253138#msg1253138 date=1346164320] [quote author=HUM398 link=topic=102152.msg1253134#msg1253134 date=1346164158] So its Galena Park ISD Stadium part 2? They can barely fill their stands as is, im not sure this is the best use of their money. [/quote] Its tax dollars and we all know tax dollars have to be used to create more debt and definately not be used to generate revenue.. [/quote] Obama's America Brother.... What ever happen to playing in the mud, with a flickering stadium light. [/quote] Leave the politics where they reside. We were in debt long before '08. Lets not even get started. [/quote] You need to step back and revaluate the context of my post.  It wasn't intended to draw political debate, nor was it intended to offend.  I have seen far more provocative things on this board then my comment.  Im not looking for a political debate.

[quote name="SummerCreek it is!" post="1253309" timestamp="1346179557"] [quote author=RHBoiler link=topic=101997.msg1253127#msg1253127 date=1346163059] [quote author=SummerCreek it is! link=topic=101997.msg1252688#msg1252688 date=1346093115]STOP LIVING IN THE PAST, and our district was not weak....we had 3 weak teams, and remember we were picked to finish 5TH, so that tells you what others thought about our team last year..... [/quote] SCII -- I'm really not trying to bash SC or last year's 18-4A district, but facts are facts. Being open to persuasion, let's hear your view on why you feel SC's schedule and 18-4A overall were not weak. 18-4A was 11-17 in non-district play, with most of the wins against teams like Pasadena S. Houston, Houston Scarborough, Houston Davis and Bayton Sterling. 18-4A was 0-4 in the playoffs, with all of its teams loosing in the first round, by an average of 31-10. The teams they lost to all lost in the second round. SC may make the playoffs this year, but I'd be shocked if they come close to Dayton. Just don't see SC as a top 10 GHA 4A or top 25 state 4A team based on how they faired against last year's opponents and what they lost. [/quote] What I'm telling you is...we were one of those weak teams "supposely" and we ended up sharing the district title...we wasn't even "suppose" to make the playoffs....I believe we they are ranking us because of number of skilled returners, and our 2014 class...just like Dayton is ranked because you have 14 returning starters....Keep in mind Humble, Kp, Willis and Huntsville were not weak teams..just because you lose in 1st round does not mean you are weak...look at Brenham, they lost 1st round to KP, you call them a weak team? I wish the playoffs was based on the best of 3 games...i know thats too much football, but in one game, anything could go wrong...key injuries,etc..where certain kids wasn't playing in the game [/quote] Talent wise those teams weren't weak, but the coaching wasn't up to snuff for any of those teams.  That is what separates great teams from good teams...good teams from average teams.    I love my cats, but they were average to below average last year.  They gave up early, and were terrible in execution.  This team was still able to go toe to toe with Summer Creek....playing that sort of football. I will always root for my fellow HISD teams, but the SC fans need to take a step back and let their kids do the talking.  The Broncos have earned the right to have their fans talk big games.

[quote name="bronco1" post="1253138" timestamp="1346164320"] [quote author=HUM398 link=topic=102152.msg1253134#msg1253134 date=1346164158] So its Galena Park ISD Stadium part 2? They can barely fill their stands as is, im not sure this is the best use of their money. [/quote] Its tax dollars and we all know tax dollars have to be used to create more debt and definately not be used to generate revenue.. [/quote] Obama's America Brother.... What ever happen to playing in the mud, with a flickering stadium light.

So its Galena Park ISD Stadium part 2? They can barely fill their stands as is, im not sure this is the best use of their money.

Im rooting for SC...i really am.  However we have to be realistic here.  If Dayton is still playing the same brand of football they have been playing over the last 10 years, you can expect Dayton be far ahead of SC at just about every level. Dayton can handle the level of athletism that SC throws at them, im just not sure that SC can handle the well oiled machine that is the broncos in November. From a purely X and O standpoint, the deficiency at the line of scrimmage on defense for SC would be a major concern for me.  Anytime you sacrafice your LB's ability to cover your soft spots in the middle in exchange for pressure, you better have some capable third level defense.  LB is arguably their strongest unit, and they are going to rely on them pretty heavily to establish pressure against the hogs the broncos will have pushing the pile.  If you have to bring 6-7 guys to get that pressure, you are done....

[quote name="liltex" post="1252773" timestamp="1346098827"] Signs of getting old is remembering when we clobbered Humble a town of 1,200 in the late 60's.Biggest hick town around,with a artesian well downtown.It's still there flowing but not potable now ;D [/quote] If i remember correctly it was always a back and forth rivarly. 

It was just a scrimmage, and not a solid indication at how a team will do.  But from what i observed, i would step back from claiming SC will challenge Dayton for the crown. I previously held the notion that SC would be able to go blow for blow with dayton, but as i have watched them develop over the course of the summer (stopping by some practices, and to the scrimmage)... I have to say that their is indication of a possible let down of mammoth proportions if a couple of things don't change. 1. Offensive line- D:  They are undersized, but quick.  However they don't do a good job in run blocking at all.  Im not sure if this is the effect of going to a more pass happy offense, or what.  2. WR- C:  They have regressed in terms of what i have seen last year, the routes are sloppy and rely mostly on athletic ability to get separation.  3. QB-A-:  I am impressed with this young man, his feet are a little heavy in terms of foot work...but he has all the tools to be a great passer.  Theirs room for improvement, but not much.  Does need to do a better job of leading his WR, plays a little too much like pitch and catch. Defense:  As a whole, i am disappointed.  I expected them to come out a lot better from last year.  They look virtually the same.  I blame this entirely on coaching.  The DB's are athletic, but technique is awful.  LB's is a solid group, but they rely on them too much to develop pressure.  It will expose their interior while the DB's try to recover from making their mistakes... I still think they make the playoffs...But i am now putting them as a 3rd of 4th finisher.    if Dayton plays like dayton has in the last 10-12 years...this will get ugly....fast. 

yeah its not even close. 1. Turner Stadium (Humble ISD) ...... ...... ....... ....... 2. BH 3. Crosby 4. Dayton

[quote name="HumbleISD" post="1173530" timestamp="1328641619"] From what I understand, Charlie is a good offensive minded guy....heard he's not a definsive guy, but he will bring a few guys with him from Dekaney....Humble should be alot better than they were this past season. If charlie come over and have Spring Football, which humble haven't had, he can get to know his athletes and start putting in the pieces [/quote] Let's hope so. I was told by the Athletic office that some guys would be retained.  Do you know if they are keeping most of the defensive staff?

Humble Non-District opponents are Huntsville, and Channelview.

Question for you WOS, since i know you are a history buff on these matters i was hoping you could help give me some details on Coach West. I know very little about him, but since hearing of his hiring over a week ago i have managed this. 1. Was at Galena Park with Mike Jinks (Steele Head coach, and apparently new Judson Head coach) 2. Was on the 1991 Killeen State title team, had something like 129 receptions at Killeen...and from what i understand was an All-State selection at WR. 3. Regarded as an offensive guru in many circles concerning Multiple back offensive systems, especially when it comes to blocking schemes. 4. Went to Cibole to observe Jinks and Steele over the spring to soak up some knowledge, much to the later realized error of Coach Jinks. 5. Highly thought of by Willie Amendola, and helped Dekaney win a title this past year. My questions for you WOS, if you know... Where all has he coached?  I got Galena Park, and Spring Dekaney.  But he has been coaching some 14 years....

[quote name="vp32" post="1172385" timestamp="1328418138"] I'm saying it right now the fight for DC will be between Crosby and Dayton. SC will probably be right behind there and the fourth spot can be anyone's. Yall underestimate the twins. They are very explosive and Dayton's track record speaks for itself and they have the best kicker in the state and are returning a lot. If Crosby can become more disciplined and get a pretty good defense then they will be right up there with Dayton. [/quote] And you think that Summer Creek isn't as explosive or more so?

[quote name="bronco pride" post="1172064" timestamp="1328367606"] Dayton will make the playoffs for sure. We are returning 14 starters and had alot of young talent. Im on the fence with crosby I know they return the twins but not much else. I think they have like 5 starters coming back. Bh lost pretty much everything. I think 5 of the seniors on their team had been on varsity since they were freshman. Its hard to replace kids like that. I dont know much about the other teams in our district but would think humble will field a good team along with kw park and summer creek. [/quote] Humble will field a talented team, but i don't know if we will be any good this year.  Summer Creek and that unacceptable rating that gave students the ability to transfer destroyed our 2012 class.  Consequence of the district not having their house in order.  We are barren at the 2012 class level.  Now that the Unacceptable Peg list transfer policy was lifted, i am hoping we get some kids wanting to transfer back to play under a new head coach (fresh start) from that senior class.    We have a solid senior QB, and return a couple of good WR's for that senior class.  Other then that though, we will heavily rely on Sophomores and juniors to carry the load. The JV team was pretty good.  So i know we have the talent, we are going to see what this new coach is made of.

[quote name="Hawkeye" post="1172027" timestamp="1328348756"] [quote author=BHFAN link=topic=95315.msg1170477#msg1170477 date=1328205556] Ok after some quick research and throwing in what little logic I have  ;D Here is how we placed last year( not sure about 18-4A since it looks like a thre way tie). first number is overall second one is in district 19-4A 1st BH 9-2 & 6-1 [s]2nd[/s] Crosby 6-5 & 5-2    ehhh...WRONG! [s]3rd [/s] Dayton 9-4 & 5-2    Yes we had a let down or two, but finished 2nd not 3rd 6th King 4-6 & 2-5 18-4A 1st Summer Creek 9-2 & 6-1 2nd KW Park 8-3 & 6-1 5th Humble 4-6 & 3-4 6th NC Porter 3-7 & 1-6 7th New Caney 2-8 & 1-6 Of course not really knowing what is returning here is my best guess for next year. 2nd Crosby [s]3rd[/s] Summer Creek [s]3rd Barbers Hill[/s] Wrong yet again - maybe 4th or 5th 1st Dayton 5th KW Park 6th Humble 7th King 8th NC Porter 9th New Caney [/quote] Summer Creek got beat like a drum by Mag. West in bi-district. Dayton beat Ma West like a stepchild. Not sure what logic you're using to put SC 3rd. If anything I would rank KP up there 2nd or 3rd. They did, afterall, beat SC in the first district game last year. I realize it's the offseason and you're probably just off your game a bit.  ;D [/quote] Summer Creek beat KPark 42-15 (or something in that ball park).  It was over at half-time. Summer Creek is easily number 1 or 2.    This is a much more experienced team, coming off a year where they were really young.

I think this district will be around for a while, and will be one of the toughest in the state.  We will know more about these teams after spring ball.

[quote name="Mike_Honcho" post="1172011" timestamp="1328334829"] Admin Edit:  Violation of board rules regarding language! [/quote] I guess we will see.  I can't tell you what Humble will do...in uncharted waters.  But i know that we have the horses to run with anyone.

Id like to see Jason Glenn come down as a DC, but i think we needed someone with a little more coaching experience. Coach West had about 14 years experience as a position coach and a coordinator.  Plus he is an offensive coach.  If i were West, id keep the Humble DC.  He is a good one.  Humble biggest problem was that the offensive side of the ball was unable to utilize the speed they had.  They had kids sitting on the sideline that were the fastest people in the stadium 7 out of 10 games.  You have to know how to develop these guys.  We have some really young guys coming up, that are really talented.  If he builds this right they will be very very good in 2013.  I expect a competitive Humble in 2012, but not a playoff team.

I heard this too, about 3 weeks ago. However it was Jason Glenn that applied for the position, but i have also heard Unofficially that Charles West Offensive Coordinator at Dekaney High school is the guy. We won't know for sure until they make an announcement.  nothing is set in stone. I also want to note, that my information comes directly from HISD athletic office.  From what i understand Glenn made the final two.

[quote name="BrenhamFan" post="1170733" timestamp="1328213663"] [quote author=HUM398 link=topic=95315.msg1170667#msg1170667 date=1328211620] [quote author=BHFAN link=topic=95315.msg1170633#msg1170633 date=1328210787] Hey HUM398 I know this is a football forumn , but what can we expect from the Humble and NC schools from the other sports? [/quote] Humble ISD schools are very competitive across the board.  Kingwood Park is the most well rounded of all the schools, they will compete and probably win most other sports.    in basketball Humble is the Powerhouse of our district, and will likely win the title in 19-4a.  Summer Creek is still very young, and outside of football aren't very good....Track is pretty good though. New Caney HS is a baseball power.  I expect that they will be very competitive. The district overall has some very solid programs that will compete deep in just about every playoff. [/quote] I don't know if I would call New Caney a powerhouse in baseball.  They are at best, above average. [/quote] Said they were a power, not a powerhouse.  I called humble the powerhouse of Humble ISD's 4a schools in basketball.  Actually, id wager they are probably the best in the district Kingwood and Atascocita included. New Caney has a good baseball program, and thats about it.  They are very competitive, and i consider them a region power.

[quote name="BHFAN" post="1170633" timestamp="1328210787"] Hey HUM398 I know this is a football forumn , but what can we expect from the Humble and NC schools from the other sports? [/quote] Humble ISD schools are very competitive across the board.  Kingwood Park is the most well rounded of all the schools, they will compete and probably win most other sports.    in basketball Humble is the Powerhouse of our district, and will likely win the title in 19-4a.  Summer Creek is still very young, and outside of football aren't very good....Track is pretty good though. New Caney HS is a baseball power.  I expect that they will be very competitive. The district overall has some very solid programs that will compete deep in just about every playoff.

[quote name="the_dude_abides" post="1170604" timestamp="1328210091"] Is that the same HUM398 that predicted a state title for Humble when they dropped down from 5A? Just doing my duty by stirring the pot a little bit. [/quote] If i outright said they would win a title, then i hand over my objectivity card.    but if i said they'd compete for a state title, then i don't take it back.  They were a very good team in 2010, and should of been equally if not better in 2011.  However injuries, attrition, and outright sub-par coaching did them in.

[quote name="BHFAN" post="1170507" timestamp="1328206894"] After further review I think BH, Crosby and Dayton take the top three spots (Not telling the order)  ;D I see that Summer Creek got killed by Magnolia West and Dayton beat the crap out of Magnolia West the next game. This could only lead me to believe that the district is not that good. [/quote] Summer Creek had something like 17 underclassmen starting last year.  Their defense was pretty weak, but make no mistake about how good they are.  This school is in perfect storm mode.  Because Humble fell into unacceptable taks waters 3 years ago, about 5-6 of Humble's top incoming freshman went to summer creek by legal transfer under peg rules.  Combined with the talent that SC drew from redrawing from Atascocita and Humble.  They are probably as stacked as they are ever going to be right now, and they have the pieces to pull off some unexpected success.  They are very very talented, and very well coached on the offensive side of the ball.  They need work defensively, but because they are athletic they do really well in take aways.  Sound running game though slows them down by keeping the offense on the sidelines. 

[quote name="Panther Recon" post="1170504" timestamp="1328206774"] Apparently none of you have seen Summer Creek play.  They deserve respect, you'll see. [/quote] The most certainly do.  They are very explosive on offense, and that QB they have is an absolute stud.  Hands down best in the district.  Kid will be a top D1 prospect.  And Summer Creek has a Running Back coming up that is ALL man, and no boy.  about 5'11 210.  Fast.  Kids only going to be a sophomore. I know its against Freshman, but the kid looks like the second coming of Ben Gay.