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[quote name="Mr. Buddy Garrity" post="1342605" timestamp="1353902963"] [quote author=HUM398 link=topic=106719.msg1342595#msg1342595 date=1353902647] [quote author=aschom78 link=topic=106719.msg1342578#msg1342578 date=1353901928] [quote author=bronco pride link=topic=106719.msg1342568#msg1342568 date=1353901421] I hate to break it to sc but gt had better coaching and better talent. The qb from gt is legit and will be playing big time ball on saturdays. [/quote] Georgetown's QB was a beast! I cant believe there aren't any big name schools looking at him. I wouldn't say SC was outcoached, just outplayed. Through and through Georgetown was the superior team, don't take anything away from coach Ford and company. [/quote] No, they were out coached.  Coach Ford has a history of being out coached as an OC, and a history of relying heavily on talent.  [b]Coach ford will need a reincarnation of the 2003 NS team to win him a title.  But then again, any coach with that level of talent could win a title in their sleep.[/b] [/quote] I 100% agree! There will never be a team like that 2003 NS team, one of the only HS teams that could turn it on or off whenever THEY wanted to and still win. Special team that was. [/quote] I was definitely lucky to have seen them.    I was in middle school when the 85' Yates team tore it up, but i never did get to see them.

[quote name="bronco pride" post="1342601" timestamp="1353902821"] NS 03 was loaded. Bobby Reid was a beast in high school. [/quote] That team was beyond loaded.  That team looked and played like a D2 College football team.  They were disgusting.  I was at Turner when they thrashed a very talented Humble team.  That year we had a total of 6 or 7 kids that would sign LOI for D1 universities before their time at Humble was done.    Not to mention our Offensive line was MASSIVE...two kids over 6'5 300lbs, and i think the average weight was 280.    It should of been a game......and it wasn't. That was a sick sick football team

[quote name="bronco pride" post="1342589" timestamp="1353902435"] Tell me all the d1 talent on sc. Sharpe is the only player I see as a top 300. [/quote] Please revise, they have a lot of players that WILL play in college.  They have 2-3 kids in the 2013 class that will play college football at a d1 university.  But they have upwards of 15 kids that will play college ball. Dakota Allen, and Aaron Sharp.  Those two are certain if they stay healthy.

[quote name="aschom78" post="1342578" timestamp="1353901928"] [quote author=bronco pride link=topic=106719.msg1342568#msg1342568 date=1353901421] I hate to break it to sc but gt had better coaching and better talent. The qb from gt is legit and will be playing big time ball on saturdays. [/quote] Georgetown's QB was a beast! I cant believe there aren't any big name schools looking at him. I wouldn't say SC was outcoached, just outplayed. Through and through Georgetown was the superior team, don't take anything away from coach Ford and company. [/quote] No, they were out coached.  Coach Ford has a history of being out coached as an OC, and a history of relying heavily on talent.  Coach ford will need a reincarnation of the 2003 NS team to win him a title.  But then again, any coach with that level of talent could win a title in their sleep.

[quote name="7mary3" post="1340620" timestamp="1353776456"] Oh don't worry about them SC poster's, they'll be just like the Humble posters on here when they got moved down to 4A claiming all of those State Championship titles they were going to win.  Hellooooooooo Humble fans......you out there?  All I hear is crickets.  SC will move up to 5A and will fade away into the night, enjoy the success this year my fellow SC posters. [/quote] Right here bubba.

[quote name="DemDAWGS!" post="1340105" timestamp="1353726455"] [quote author=BigRed42 link=topic=106670.msg1340077#msg1340077 date=1353725848] [quote author=DemDAWGS! link=topic=106670.msg1340074#msg1340074 date=1353725748] If Dawson is who I've heard they are, Nederland loses BIG.  I've heard some reports that Dawson isn't as great as their record suggest. [/quote] Was it you who said Nederland would lose BIG to Connaly? [/quote] No sir. My line has been that Nederland is suspect due to close win over Vidor and less than impressive win over a very weak Dayton team.  You gain no power ranking points by beating Pflugerville or Dayton. [/quote] Thats because you approach everything with an apples vs apples perspective when you can't do that in football.  Football is about match-ups, game plans, and style.    Nederland beat dayton 21-7, and Summer creek beat Dayton 45-7.  You conclusion is that Ned isn't as good as SC because of that score, however you discount how the two teams match up, what the key's of victory were for Ned, and the style of play (were they air it out, or ball control?).    This is why you didn't see GT coming, and its why you have a distorted view of how good YOUR team was.

[quote name="DemDAWGS!" post="1342330" timestamp="1353878629"] SC is good enough to beat any true 4A team.  GTown running their 5A team this year is wrong. [/quote] This is logically deficient.  You are a sore loser, and i know GT is going to lose....and its only going to further confuse you on how Texas HS football works. GT beat you because they were better coached.  period.  in the playoffs, you have to be more then just a bunch of athletes....and that is all SC was.

[quote name="Bulldogs2011" post="1342285" timestamp="1353873303"] No it wasn't.  Trust me...I'm on the sideline and in the lockeroom.  Not some know it all from the stands. [/quote] Oh so you are the team photographer?  I played, i coached, and i have scouted.  I think i can tell when theirs an adjustment made.  The idea that the exact same thing was done and then it magically started working is A. Rejecting reasonable plausibility for unreasonable improbability  B. Not indicated by the results. Defensive play and play calling was not very good in the first half.  Second half adjustments were made, and play improved...equals a better result.    If you are saying that the coaching staff didn't make ANY adjustments in the second half, i have some bad news for you....Angelton will lose big against GT. 

[quote name="Bulldogs2011" post="1342182" timestamp="1353859730"] [quote author=HUM398 link=topic=106711.msg1342169#msg1342169 date=1353858710] [quote author=Bulldogs2011 link=topic=106711.msg1342051#msg1342051 date=1353821311] The defense was exactly the same in the 2nd half as it was the 1st half.  The difference was the kids doing the job that was asked of them. [/quote] Which means, it wasn't exactly the same....  and no, at least half as many blitzes from saftey's. [/quote] You're wrong buddy. The play calling didn't change at all and only 80 yards were given up in the 2nd half.  Plays and Personnel was exactly the same. [/quote] No im not.  Defensive adjustments were made.  Blitzes didn't start to "magically work against a team that could obviously find the soft spots in the defense.  They scored as many points as they did because Angelton was over agressive in the first half when they didn't have to be.  Play calling was pulled back some, and they let the kids run with the cougars.

[quote name="SummerCreek it is!" post="1342173" timestamp="1353858938"] [quote author=HUM398 link=topic=106719.msg1341990#msg1341990 date=1353817730] On behalf of Humble ISD. Id like to apologize for the rookies.  They don't understand that sometimes you just aren't good enough. [/quote] we were good enough to kick Humble HS arse, 2 years in a row 8) [/quote] lol, pretty sure their are a number of Middle school programs that could of accomplished the same feat this year.    And you didn't kick Humble arse two ears in a row.  You beat us one, and beat our rear ends once.

[quote name="Bulldogs2011" post="1342051" timestamp="1353821311"] The defense was exactly the same in the 2nd half as it was the 1st half.  The difference was the kids doing the job that was asked of them. [/quote] Which means, it wasn't exactly the same....  and no, at least half as many blitzes from saftey's.

[quote name="DemDAWGS!" post="1341803" timestamp="1353813375"] Did GTown play in 5A last year?  Case closed. [/quote] LAME excuse. Tomball play in 5a last year?    Oh thats right, thrashing by Angelton.

Its going to be close, but Angelton will win in the end by 2+ scores. The Wing T is such a hard defense to defend when you play it for the first time.  Its also a rare offense in Texas.  Angelton defense however is borderline terrible, and its play calling.  The DC for angelton needs to stop bringing blitzes, when his front 4 get enough pressure.  i will say this, if Angelton had played defense the way they did in the second half against Tomball....They would of scored upwards of 90 points and held tomball to 14-20pts.

[quote name="dayton" post="1341952" timestamp="1353816547"] [quote author=SCDAWGS link=topic=106686.msg1341927#msg1341927 date=1353815936] [quote author=SCDAWGS link=topic=106686.msg1341911#msg1341911 date=1353815626] [quote author=Jackthehammer link=topic=106686.msg1341882#msg1341882 date=1353815078] [quote author=SCDAWGS link=topic=106686.msg1341879#msg1341879 date=1353814977] My honest opinion, we were out coached this afternoon. We have Jr studs that should be on the field but we choose to start seniors. [/quote] I agree I posted on that during the game coaching and QB effientcey got you today their QB was outstanding. [/quote] Crown got me speaking how I really feel about it. [/quote] Our secondary was exposed to who they really are tonight. Just keeping it real.. Although most of us felt the same way.l [/quote] I was really curious to see what would happen when someone could actually match athletes with SC. I assume that's part of what happened today and then coaching and execution took over. That's not a knock, the kids and coaches from SC deserve a learning curve with as new as they are to all this... Good season SC. [/quote] Was at the game, and matching athletes wasn't what happened.  It was coaching.  GT was just a better football team from top to bottom.  They were better coached.

On behalf of Humble ISD. Id like to apologize for the rookies.  They don't understand that sometimes you just aren't good enough.

[quote name="DemDAWGS!" post="1341590" timestamp="1353808198"] [IMG][Hidden Content]] [b]CONGRATULATIONS TO THE SUMMER CREEK BULLDOGS ON A FABULOUS UNSTOPPABLE SEASON![/b] The Greatest Show on Turf was beaten today by a very fine 5A Georgetown Eagle team.  Congratulations to GTown on their win and Congratulations in advance for beating the brakes off the remaining 4A Division I field.  Angleton should get ready to turn in their pads.  Angleton is a good 4A and will be robbed by having to play a 5A team next week (as will Dawson after they destroy Nederland next week).  Keep your heads up guys, GTown should have stayed in 5A this year and dropped next year after the 90% senior team left. This GTown team reminds me very much of a Humble team a few years back during their first year dropping to 4A.  Same deal.  We faced a 5A team that year.  The true 4A Humble team was the following year and thereafter. We are the Greatest Show on Turf and THE BEST TRUE 4A TEAM IN THIS REGION hands down. Now, the rest of you can take your shots, but it won't change the fact GTown is robbing 4A teams this year.  Angleton will see next week. [b]SC remains the best 4A team [/b] and the rightful State finalist team.  We must apologize to our fans and the remaining TRUE 4A teams as they will not be able to see the Greatest Show on Turf for the remainder of the season.  If you want to get a dose of SC, please visit our game page on Texanallsports.  There's plenty of great footage of us blowing out all challangers in 19-A. [/quote] Such total BS.  LOL.    id like to point out some difference here. 1. Yall have 5a numbers and are playing in 4a.  The snapshot that the district took wasn't accurate at all.  at the beginning of the season, yall had nearly 2150 student.  That is nearly the same number that Lufkin (a 5a powerhouse) has.    If anything yall, were "equally 5a".  Lol.    2. 19-4a was WAY down this.  Unexpectedly so.  Humble- way down, very young, and terrible, KP-down, dayton- way down (probably the worst Dayton team i have seen in 8-9 years), crosby- new coach, and down, BH-up, CE King- was CE King.    You had the benefit of a lot of luck.  I still maintain you have no defense, and your running game is average at best.    and GT showed us exactly that. 3. Great show on turf?  Maybe Aaron Sharp best QB in Texas, but the team as a whole...no way.  The route running the WR run is awful and entirely dependent on their superior athleticism.  Funny, cause this was THE same problem North Shore had under Ford as OC.  Ford is really good at one thing, placing his athletes at the right spots.  Offensive play calling against a good team, conservative and boring at best.  Thats why the game seemed slow to you.  Because Ford at the end of the day, doesn't have the spine to take risk.  SC is and will always struggle to come back and win a game with Ford as HC.. and it will frustrate you YEARS down the road from now to the point you will want him gone.  Because it will be a lot of 2 deeps and tickets to basketball season...  He comes from the same coaching tree as Walt Beasley...The Quillen tree.  All the coaches that came from under him directly or indirectly seem to struggle from the same crap...a lack of cojones. 4. Dawson will win this Region with little problem, and if they do have a problem...it will come from Angelton.  Dawson is playing at a different level then the rest of region 3, and its not really even close.  And guess what, they aren't even close to being good enough to win a state title. GT will lose, be it to Angelton...or Dawson.  A loss is coming, and it will likely be a blow out.  Match ups...that is the key difference. I will say that Angelton is probably favored here.  ill say that score is 61-42 Angelton.  But i wouldn't be surprised if GT won, only to fall to Dawson. on and Nederland fans, you have a HELL of defense.  Just don't have the horses to run with Dawson. 

[quote name="SummerCreek it is!" post="1259142" timestamp="1346632289"] [quote author=HUM398 link=topic=102253.msg1259082#msg1259082 date=1346626065] I didn't catch the first quarter (came in late).  But from what i could tell, this was a deer in the headlights type moment for everyone on the humble bench.  Looking at the roster i recognized a total of 9 names on a 50 man roster.  That is NOT good. They were not ready for Varsity Lights. I was really impressed with the number of plays the sophomores on the team were making.  It appears all the sophomores on the roster played significant time.  It will take a while for these kids to get acclimated to this level of play, considering this is pretty much a JV team.  SC and Atascocita opening up so close together hurt Humble pretty badly. I see no where but up for these kids though.  I didn't see any quit towards the end, and that is something worth celebrating as a fan. [/quote] They better get it together....I did see a few athletes on the team, but I'm hearing they coming to Screek next year...the couple of sophomores that was good [/quote] You heard wrong.  The PEG ruling ends this year, and those students would have no grounds for transfer unless they have a parent or sibling attending that school. Humble is of a higher educational standing then SC with IB being on campus, as well as less reported and documented drug incidents and fights then SC by a pretty wide margin.  The claim of the individual above about this school being what he discribed is pure fantasy used by advocates against Humble.  Not sure who you heard that from, but it sounds like pure wishful thinking.  All 19 underclassmen on this squad will contribute more and more this season.  Humble will go into rebuilding mode with these group of guys.  From what i understand, the sophomore and freshman classes are very good from a talent perspective.  Im confident that Humble will return to form with in a season.  These Freshman, sophomores and Juniors are a solid foundation to build the future on. I expect a very potent Humble in 2013.  and i believe they will improve significantly as the season progresses this year. Humble has rebounded from splits before, this is no exception.  The talent, and coaching is here...now it will just take some time.

I didn't catch the first quarter (came in late).  But from what i could tell, this was a deer in the headlights type moment for everyone on the humble bench.  Looking at the roster i recognized a total of 9 names on a 50 man roster.  That is NOT good. They were not ready for Varsity Lights. I was really impressed with the number of plays the sophomores on the team were making.  It appears all the sophomores on the roster played significant time.  It will take a while for these kids to get acclimated to this level of play, considering this is pretty much a JV team.  SC and Atascocita opening up so close together hurt Humble pretty badly. I see no where but up for these kids though.  I didn't see any quit towards the end, and that is something worth celebrating as a fan.

[quote name="Mr. Buddy Garrity" post="1254976" timestamp="1346363383"] Humble should have this wrapped up by halftime. [/quote] lol.  I hope so, but i am doubtful.    I haven't actually gotten to see them scrimmage, just  a couple of practices here an there.  So i am walking into this kind of blind.    From what very little i did see...i could see this coming down to 4th quarter.  Then again, i know nothing of huntsville or what they return.  Last year they were salty but one demensional.

[quote name="SummerCreek it is!" post="1254697" timestamp="1346344800"] You keep saying we gonna taste crow, don't get off subject of Screek vs Humble...If we lose to anybody in district, I rather it be dayton because they are a good team nd some pick them to beat us, so really we have nothing to lose, but hear it on here from the dayton people,,,,Humble and Caney Creek tied 6-6 in a scrimmage ;D ;D ;D....you need to keep your focus on YOUR KITTIES [/quote] Scrimmage scores are not indictive to how well a team will do.  Humble use to whoop up on Lufkin every year they scrimmaged them in the late 90's early 00's.  I can guarntee you that most of those Lufkin teams we scrimmaged would of beat us by a good 14 points. Scrimmages are as much about coaching as they are about players.  You try different things, and different pieces.  They are meant to fine tune, not come out victorious.  Thats why when i watch a scrimmage i watch coaching tendencies and technique more then i pay attention to plays.  how frequently do they blitz, do the coaches prefer man or zone, on offense how are the WR running routes.  Things of that nature.  I can't gauge the overall success of a team based on a fake game with no ramifications whos purpose is soley to perfect or fix broken tendencies. Make no mistake, Humble has a LOT to work on before district starts.  alot of these guys are going to be playing varsity for the very first time, and their is always learning curve.  Question for them is how fast can they learn?  Humble is athletic enough to play with anyone in the district, but is not experianced enough from what i have observed to win close games.  How well they do will depend on how mentally prepared these guys are. 

[quote name="SummerCreek it is!" post="1254207" timestamp="1346282787"] [quote author=HUM398 link=topic=101997.msg1254095#msg1254095 date=1346272267] [quote author=SummerCreek it is! link=topic=101997.msg1254029#msg1254029 date=1346266767] [quote author=HUM398 link=topic=101997.msg1253916#msg1253916 date=1346257341] [quote author=Dog Pound Nation link=topic=101997.msg1253667#msg1253667 date=1346207481] Someone still sounds a bit bitter last year's "L".Maybe if the coach could coach, Humble would've had that HUMBLE ZONED TALENT. Don't worry. You only have to deal with us for two more years. Hope your program's turned around by then. By the way, don't like crow, but I will eat up some fried yard bird. Perferably Frenchy's. So have me a 10 piece with 2 peppers and a RED soda after we smash ya'll......................................please !!!!! ;)............................ and coming back on the 2nd string isn't really going toe to toe.ijs [/quote] you are a revisionist of history brother.  Humble and SC were tied 14-7 at the half, SC lead.  No one scored the second quarter.  SC scored 14, Humble scored 7 in the third.  both scored 14 in the fourth.  Yall never held a wide enough lead for long enough to put in the second string team without risking a comeback.  QB Sharp played the entire game.  SC accounted for 600+ yards, and Humble had roughly 500+.    This was a very evenly matched game outside of redzone production.    Both defenses were terrible, and both offenses pretty much had their way with the defenses with the exception of humble executing inside the 20.    This game would of NEVER been 70-14 like another poster suggested.  SC was the better team, but not by much at all. and Humble was down right terrible last year. [/quote] Did you count how many time Screek took a knee? we took knee at 4yd line, we could have scored right before half but the QB messed up...we were on the 2yd line. and yes we did have 2nd string defense in... [/quote] You took the knee because you already up 7 points, and a turnover could mean 7 or 8 in the other direction.  Not worth the risk considering at that point the game was won. (good thing you don't coach). Theirs no need to take high risk, when victory is with in grasp.  And just because you say your 2nd string was in, doesn't change the fact that up until the last 4 downs.... your defense wasn't 2nd string.  that in itself would of been a stupid move, and if thats how your coaches coach...get ready to get reamed. [/quote] We lead by 20 plus points, we put our 2nd string in, and they pretty staed in bcuz we knew game was won, plus..we were headed to PLAYOFFS...keep making excuses...score just may be 70-14 this year ;) [/quote] LOL!!!! its going to be a lot of fun watching you suffer the taste of crow.    And i wouldn't count on us being a win.  We should give you a run for your money.  As it stand now, you are the better team.  Never underestimate the power of better coaching, and a fresh slate.

[quote name="SummerCreek it is!" post="1254029" timestamp="1346266767"] [quote author=HUM398 link=topic=101997.msg1253916#msg1253916 date=1346257341] [quote author=Dog Pound Nation link=topic=101997.msg1253667#msg1253667 date=1346207481] Someone still sounds a bit bitter last year's "L".Maybe if the coach could coach, Humble would've had that HUMBLE ZONED TALENT. Don't worry. You only have to deal with us for two more years. Hope your program's turned around by then. By the way, don't like crow, but I will eat up some fried yard bird. Perferably Frenchy's. So have me a 10 piece with 2 peppers and a RED soda after we smash ya'll......................................please !!!!! ;)............................ and coming back on the 2nd string isn't really going toe to toe.ijs [/quote] you are a revisionist of history brother.  Humble and SC were tied 14-7 at the half, SC lead.  No one scored the second quarter.  SC scored 14, Humble scored 7 in the third.  both scored 14 in the fourth.  Yall never held a wide enough lead for long enough to put in the second string team without risking a comeback.  QB Sharp played the entire game.  SC accounted for 600+ yards, and Humble had roughly 500+.    This was a very evenly matched game outside of redzone production.    Both defenses were terrible, and both offenses pretty much had their way with the defenses with the exception of humble executing inside the 20.    This game would of NEVER been 70-14 like another poster suggested.  SC was the better team, but not by much at all. and Humble was down right terrible last year. [/quote] Did you count how many time Screek took a knee? we took knee at 4yd line, we could have scored right before half but the QB messed up...we were on the 2yd line. and yes we did have 2nd string defense in... [/quote] You took the knee because you already up 7 points, and a turnover could mean 7 or 8 in the other direction.  Not worth the risk considering at that point the game was won. (good thing you don't coach). Theirs no need to take high risk, when victory is with in grasp.  And just because you say your 2nd string was in, doesn't change the fact that up until the last 4 downs.... your defense wasn't 2nd string.  that in itself would of been a stupid move, and if thats how your coaches coach...get ready to get reamed.

[quote name="Dog Pound Nation" post="1253667" timestamp="1346207481"] Someone still sounds a bit bitter last year's "L".Maybe if the coach could coach, Humble would've had that HUMBLE ZONED TALENT. Don't worry. You only have to deal with us for two more years. Hope your program's turned around by then. By the way, don't like crow, but I will eat up some fried yard bird. Perferably Frenchy's. So have me a 10 piece with 2 peppers and a RED soda after we smash ya'll......................................please !!!!! ;)............................ and coming back on the 2nd string isn't really going toe to toe.ijs [/quote] you are a revisionist of history brother.  Humble and SC were tied 14-7 at the half, SC lead.  No one scored the second quarter.  SC scored 14, Humble scored 7 in the third.  both scored 14 in the fourth.  Yall never held a wide enough lead for long enough to put in the second string team without risking a comeback.  QB Sharp played the entire game.  SC accounted for 600+ yards, and Humble had roughly 500+.    This was a very evenly matched game outside of redzone production.    Both defenses were terrible, and both offenses pretty much had their way with the defenses with the exception of humble executing inside the 20.    This game would of NEVER been 70-14 like another poster suggested.  SC was the better team, but not by much at all. and Humble was down right terrible last year.

[quote name="SummerCreek it is!" post="1253371" timestamp="1346183703"] [quote author=HUM398 link=topic=101997.msg1253368#msg1253368 date=1346183313] [quote author=SummerCreek it is! link=topic=101997.msg1253365#msg1253365 date=1346182999] Thats right. Thats a guarantee Bubba! and you must be taling about last years seniors that WERE zoned to humble...none this year that i know of [/quote] Summer Creek is you too...and we may just hang 70 this time, lets hope Ford dont have the kids take a knee like last year.... 8). and by the way, i found out our water boy is only kid zoned to Humble  ;D Then you don't know much.  ;D      I guess we will find out if that guarantee stands.  But you know, i could always say that we are really young, and we only return 5 starters and like 8 lettermen.... you know, otherwise it would be 70-14 [/quote] [/quote] lol. I know you don't have the cash to back the check your writing.

[quote name="SummerCreek it is!" post="1253365" timestamp="1346182999"] Thats right. Thats a guarantee Bubba! and you must be taling about last years seniors that WERE zoned to humble...none this year that i know of [/quote] Then you don't know much.  ;D      I guess we will find out if that guarantee stands.  But you know, i could always say that we are really young, and we only return 5 starters and like 8 lettermen.... you know, otherwise it would be 70-14