Lions Pride 2021

9 minutes ago, LCMAlumtiger32 said:

Game isn't over Mr. Enard. 

You see the score?  I went back to my lake house. I saw what i needed to see...

Livingston has made too many mistakes in a game LC-M had to have. Salute to the Green and Gold. It's gonna be an interesting three weeks.

Just now, setxathlete14 said:

Does Livingston have a stream?

No. I wish they would join Texan Live.

KETX the Eagle. They do a good job of calling the game with Ken Luck and Brian Besch. The pregame show starts a 515 and they go over all the games in Beaumont and Houston. Highly recommend it.

22 hours ago, BattlinBear02 said:

After watching the bears play spring legacy and Vidor , I have a bad feeling about this Livingston game. Especially after seeing the Lions put up 69 pts on Huffman.. hope I'm wrong, but our Bears may be in big trouble.

Huffman isn't huffman this year. Livingston is susceptible to giving up long passes. If you can hold the line long enough for someone to get 25 yards down field, you got a 50/50 shot of scoring. 

20 hours ago, LCMAlumtiger32 said:

You know you told us that livingston was going to beat LCM last year. 

That was two years ago, actually. I don't think I posted much last year. No more children playing. Thought I'd take a break from watching children's games for a while...

The whole reason I moved up here was to get away from children's games, only to be sucked back in because the kids wanted to play and the teams needed people to help coach.

Livingston was bitten by the injury bug last year hard. Not an excuse, just part of the game. They are healthy this year. 

LC-M may have the best player on the field but Livingston probably has the next 5-6 before we get back to the Bears. I expect a track meet. I'd also like bragging rights over my sons. i just can't see the Bears winning.

It's gonna be a shoot out. Livingston is fast and has more weapons. They can't defend the pass to save their life. Wouldn't surprise me that the team with the ball last wins the game.

I'm picking my adopted hometown Lions over my hometown Bears. It's gonna be a long, sad ride home to Bear Path.

7 hours ago, 3rdone said:

There is a 4 loss season, and a really down season...there is a difference. Losing to HF and getting boat raced by PNG and Silsbee is not just a "down" year for WOS. Anyone that can't see the difference in this team and other teams in the past are not really being honest with themselves. 

The difference is, at WOS the goal isn't to just MAKE the playoffs...that's a given with this program. Any other program... then that would be a valid point. This program is always thinking...can we make it to state?!?  And who is in our way to get to state?!?! 

So you're saying a 1-2 team can't make it to state? Gotcha. 

I never thought I'd see the day when mustang fan would turn out to be a whiner and a quitter. Y'all should be ashamed of yourselves.

 Its a tough district. Should prepare you for the playoffs. Quit living in the past and focus on the task at hand -this season. Because it's the only season that counts. 

8 hours ago, CardinalBacker said:

But they also swept district in 2018. They’re 1–2 in district this year. 

The district win streak had to end sometime, right?  Nothing lasts forever. 

Their fans are so spoiled, they can't comprehend that the guys on the other sideline might be as talented or maybe more.

They're in a tough district. They just have to deal with it.

4 hours ago, Rez Ipsa said:

West orange never has a down year like this. I may be wrong , but we’d have to go back 30-40 years to find a west orange team losing like this. When they lost to png I thought, “ok, png might just be better than we thought and are finally playing defense.” When they lost to Silsbee I thought, “well of course - Silsbee has one of the best players in the state and is probably going to go at least five rounds this year.” Then they kept losing. And they keep losing on absolutely terrible offensive production and non-existent defense. This kind of self-destruction is unheard of for west orange. It may amount to just a down year, but that it’s happening at all is weird. A down year for west orange used to mean district champs and a second or third round exit. Now it means losing to Hampshire Fannet ? This season is a historic dip for that program 

Yes they have. Several posters have pointed out multiple season where they lost 4-5 games in a season. Both Hooks and Thompson had off seasons. Most recently was 2018. 

The only thing that matters is making the playoffs and advancing. 

Mustang fans have short memories and are very spoiled. 

Isn't WO-S the smallest team in its district? The school isn't growing. Maybe dropping down to 3A would help.

WO-S is everyone's super bowl. That they had a tremendous run of success in district before this year is a testament to the excellence of the program. Down years happen. And Silsbee and H-F are very good teams. The most important thing is making the playoffs. I feel bad for the first place winner in the cross district.

Feeling a little better about this team. They have improved every week. Still give up too many big plays. But they have enough talent to make district interesting. 

They just might beat LC-M next week. 

It's a hard job. Sometimes the talent on the field just isn't good enough to win the game. You can have a well coached team that just got stuck in a rough district and that's the breaks.

These are children playing a game.

Just a few years ago, you had a hard time getting them to run in the right direction in pee wee ball. And you hated when the parents fussed at you when you were doing the best you could to show them the fundamentals of the game. Amplify this by a few thousand on Friday night and it would give you nightmares and ulcers.

Are the kids playing hard? Does he put the kids in the best position to win or at least be competitive? Do the kids execute and not beat themselves with silly unforced penalties? Do they look better every week, despite the score?

If you can answer yes, then give the guy some slack, even if you don't like the record. Only 12 teams are going to win the last game of the season.

That said, the head football coach is typically the second highest paid employee of the school district. He should not be above criticism. If he isn't cutting it, go attend a school board meeting and make your feelings known. If that doesn't work, then vote those bums out or run for a seat yourself.

But to hate on a man because he lost a game to a rival or better team is ridiculous. At this level, he is a teacher instructing kids on how to play the game properly, the value of team work, how to handle adversity and most importantly keep them safe.

Hopefully the Lions can right the ship this week. I'll take keeping it within 10 points as an improvement. 

1 hour ago, BEARCPA said:

I agree with most of your post, but I don’t think the highlighted part is true at all. I’ve already done the research on Lamar’s athletic budget, which falls well behind their former Southland peers. The powers that be have to agree to start opening up the checkbook. 
 

 

The Louisiana schools spend around 12million. Lamar is closer to 19 million. Lamar would probably need to spend 7 million more a year to be serious about a better conference but a better conference has better payouts, better games and higher revenue because you can host FBS schools. Look at Coastal Carolina, Georgia Southern, Georgia State and App State. No one knew who they were 20 years ago. You could argue that Lamar was better known than them. Not any more. The leadership and vision at Lamar, and Beaumont in general, is sorely lacking. 

2 hours ago, TradenupBH said:

Last year, only 12 out of 30 conferences had multiple teams from their conference made a baseball regional.

Only 10 conferences had multiple teams in March madness for basketball.

Football at Lamar level is majority one team conference playoffs.

point is, there’s no conference nowadays that works financially for a school like Lamar. We are who we are, unless the powers that be spend money and change the image of Lamar. Kids aren’t knocking down the door to attend Lamar and live in Beaumont. Not happening. It would take a major overhaul of area, adding nice off campus housing, bars, restaurants, and other college activities to change kids minds. Just my opinion.

 

This is a defeatist attitude. They can build a new Vincent Beck if they wanted too. They should be aiming for the Sun Belt, the athletic budget is closer to those schools than it is for the southland schools.

The other schools in the TSU system have built better facilities, added a medical school and invested heavily in research. What has Lamar done? Become a diploma mill for teachers. 

The school is being left behind. Lamar chose to be in TSU because it was promised it would always be an equal. Its not, it's been left behind. And none of the so called leaders are doing anything about it.

Lamar is directionless, gutless and pitiful. If you're going to leave the WAC, going back to the Southland conference with your tail between your legs is not the move. All the issues with the Southland are still there. The lack of investment in facilities, program and coaching. Just because Lamar hasn't got any coaching hires right doesn't mean they were wrong to leave the SLC. 

The SLC hosts its basketball tournament in a high school gym. On a floor 10'shorter than regulation. The WAC plays in Vegas.

I wish they had leadership and did what it takes to get in the Sun Belt, which is where they belong. Until then, I'm through.

On 2/3/2022 at 2:11 PM, bullets13 said:

One could argue that failures in sports don't really have much to do with their being an asset to the area.  hundreds of thousands of local kids have gotten an affordable education from a college respectable enough for them to get hired into jobs.  that's Lamar's biggest asset to the area for me.

The Lamar degree isn't really looked upon to favorably outside of Beaumont. I hate to say that as a Lamar grad. The school, just like the place it calls home, just keeps falling behind the rest of the state. Maybe the new president can turn things around. I'm just soured on the school right now because it can and should be better.

On 2/3/2022 at 1:57 PM, BEARCPA said:

I'd really like to hear your suggestions on how Lamar should go about getting a medical or law school. Also, why would they want to expand a stadium that already has plenty of empty seats on gameday? 

Sam Houston State, Lamar's sister school, just built a medical school. They raised money, got the state reps and TSU board to back it. It can and should be done. As an alum, I'm sick of seeing the school get left behind. As for the football, get better coaches, get out of the WACk, and go home to the Sunbelt, the conference we founded. 

Just throw away the whole Lamar athletics department in the dumpster. It's embarrassing. Marco Born and all his hires have been disasters. 

The move to the WAC is looking worse by the day. Get new people in and work on getting back into the Sun Belt with USL and La Tech. 

Add a med school or a law school. And expand Cardinal Stadium. Be an asset to the area for once Lamar.

On 10/19/2021 at 9:28 PM, Self High 5 said:

I don't think there's any way to watch the game I know it's not on Texan live. If I remember correctly doesn't Livingston have a radio station that broadcast the games or do they still do that anymore?

FM 102.3 the Eagle. You should be able to listen online.

On 10/16/2021 at 8:00 PM, Hagar said:

Is your QB back?  He’s a good one.

Ruiz is unfortunely out for the season. 

Hopefully he'll be fully healed by baseball season where he truly a marvel to watch.

Livingston has dealt with a bunch of injuries and have had a nasty penalty bug.

Maybe they're over it. 

That, and the Pirates don't like throwing the ball gives me hope that this will be a Lions win.

The way things look, we could have three 3-2 teams and three 2-3 teams at the end of district. There's not much separating these teams. 

19 hours ago, Boneyard Boys said:

Ouch, tough break… literally.

If you can throw the ball, Livingston is beatable. Had people been able to catch last year, the Lions don't win district.

They just seem to be commiting more penalties than last year. IDK, they seemed to have taken a step back while everyone else has moved forward.

Its going to be an interesting four weeks to see how this shakes out.

Take nothing away from Lumberton, they won all phases of the game. It seems this year the power of the district will be centered around Beaumont instead of Houston. That season finale of Livingston and Hargrave may be for the last playoff spot instead of the district title.

19 hours ago, Mr. Buddy Garrity said:

Livingston by 60. 

I like your thinking but that's a bridge too far. I'll buy you keg of beer if the Lions win by 60.

The Lions are decent, but they make too many mistakes that keep teams in the game.

Lions by 8. 

1 hour ago, LCMAlumtiger32 said:

I’m sorry to bust your bubble LCM is not scheduling WOS after this season 

I always hated that the local papers lazily called it a rivalry game just because they are in neighboring zip codes.  i might have been guilty of that too when I was a sports reporter, but that was at least 18 losses ago.

They should just combine the two schools and be through with it.