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51 unanswered points in the state championship game.
 
But Aledo should enjoy this because it will probably be their last time in Arlington for a while. 

I know that I do not have much dog in the fight but reading this I think there are a couple of things to note: 
1. Travel - Yes United did travel to Arlington to play a game, but it was on a non school day, so students lost zero education by going there. The same as when they travel to Allen over Christmas. As much as we do not think about it, these are still students so being in class as much as they can is best. 
Beaumont is in no man's land, similar to the Odessa/Midland & Abilene. Look at who they are scheduling, Hobbs and other New Mexico schools, or down a level. Houston is two hours away for most non district games. United & Westbrook can travel there but many schools are not gonna travel East when they can find schools closer, so if they want a home game they have to find a way. Silsbee is one of the few, if only, schools that will agree to come to United or Westbrook. Many local schools will not for various reasons and Houston schools are not. So travel wise Beaumont, both schools, are stuck. They want a home game for the parents/students/fans to watch, they have to be creative. 
2. Money - The schools that travel across the country are not paying for it. Many are being sponsored by the host or another company. DeSoto and Duncanville the past couple of years have had 5-6 high level D1 players on each team so people want to showcase them. Beaumont has had 1 or 2 so you are not going to have as many organizations hoping to have them play. Some will but not the major ones. They have to look local and Beaumont does not have the money that you see in Dallas Fort Worth or Houston. If they want to travel it will be the old way of sales and fundraisers. But everyone is struggling. 
3. Tradition - As others have mentioned there are certain schools across the state that have that respect level. Argyle, Kimball, Carter, Madison, Brock, Silsbee, Yates, and now Washington. Year in and year out they are going to be good, and on any given night can give you a game (a few years ago the 4A state champ almost lost to the 1A state champ just saying). The coach knows that the teams will fight for 32 minutes and will push their players. This was that type of game. Silsbee has the tradition and the respect, so yes they may be 4A, and yes if they lose it might not look good to the ones with little knowledge, the real basketball people will know it is not that big of a deal. They know Silsbee is better than 1/2 to 2/3 of 6A teams and will be one of the final 8 teams playing in 4A in March. 
4. Game Planning - Coaches want to play teams that can prepare them for the playoffs and future opponents. Besides the above mentioned 32 minutes of fight, Silsbee may run schemes and systems that United might see down the road. So why not try and play them to give the players a taste of that pressure style. 
So looking at the whole 4A comment while it makes sense if they were playing most 4A schools, it does not work in this case. United by playing Silsbee was able to get a quality opponent to come to them that will prepare them for district and the playoffs.

I know that I do not have much dog in the fight but reading this I think there are a couple of things to note: 
1. Travel - Yes United did travel to Arlington to play a game, but it was on a non school day, so students lost zero education by going there. The same as when they travel to Allen over Christmas. As much as we do not think about it, these are still students so being in class as much as they can is best. 
Beaumont is in no man's land, similar to the Odessa/Midland & Abilene. Look at who they are scheduling, Hobbs and other New Mexico schools, or down a level. Houston is two hours away for most non district games. United & Westbrook can travel there but many schools are not gonna travel East when they can find schools closer, so if they want a home game they have to find a way. Silsbee is one of the few, if only, schools that will agree to come to United or Westbrook. Many local schools will not for various reasons and Houston schools are not. So travel wise Beaumont, both schools, are stuck. They want a home game for the parents/students/fans to watch, they have to be creative. 
2. Money - The schools that travel across the country are not paying for it. Many are being sponsored by the host or another company. DeSoto and Duncanville the past couple of years have had 5-6 high level D1 players on each team so people want to showcase them. Beaumont has had 1 or 2 so you are not going to have as many organizations hoping to have them play. Some will but not the major ones. They have to look local and Beaumont does not have the money that you see in Dallas Fort Worth or Houston. If they want to travel it will be the old way of sales and fundraisers. But everyone is struggling. 
3. Tradition - As others have mentioned there are certain schools across the state that have that respect level. Argyle, Kimball, Carter, Madison, Brock, Silsbee, Yates, and now Washington. Year in and year out they are going to be good, and on any given night can give you a game (a few years ago the 4A state champ almost lost to the 1A state champ just saying). The coach knows that the teams will fight for 32 minutes and will push their players. This was that type of game. Silsbee has the tradition and the respect, so yes they may be 4A, and yes if they lose it might not look good to the ones with little knowledge, the real basketball people will know it is not that big of a deal. They know Silsbee is better than 1/2 to 2/3 of 6A teams and will be one of the final 8 teams playing in 4A in March. 
4. Game Planning - Coaches want to play teams that can prepare them for the playoffs and future opponents. Besides the above mentioned 32 minutes of fight, Silsbee may run schemes and systems that United might see down the road. So why not try and play them to give the players a taste of that pressure style. 
So looking at the whole 4A comment while it makes sense if they were playing most 4A schools, it does not work in this case. United by playing Silsbee was able to get a quality opponent to come to them that will prepare them for district and the playoffs.

Have not seen Stephenville/Brownwood/Wylie but there cannot be any more distaste between 3 schools anywhere else in the country.
As for Stephenville Aledo it was one of the shortest rivalries but every game was exciting and every grade level and sport competed like it was the only game of the season.

If it's October 7th and you plan to stay in Abilene that night, I would recommend heading to Strawn for some Chicken Fried at Mary's before going over to Gordon to watch Gordon-Gorman. About an hour drive from Abilene but it should be a good game. 
Or best matchup in the state that weekend might be Cherokee at Richland Springs. Drive down then maybe spend the night in Brownwood or San Saba afterwards. Huge rivalry game and lots of bad blood it seems over the 3 year suspension of Jerry Burkhart, Richland Spring's coach. It's about 2 hours from Abilene.

June 15 is the day the invasion actually started but yes like Normandy there were bombings in the days up to it including the Philippine Sea (which is rumored to have a ship sunk carrying mosquitoes infected with the plague). 
 
As for being as important as D-Day, this was the first Japanese land the US invaded. It led directly to the resignation of Tojo, the shift in strategy from Japan, and the realization that the war was lost. The US could now directly bomb the country something it hadn’t done other than once in 1942. The three islands eventually held 15 runways about 8-10 were used for B-29s. 
 
The night you were referring to was Operation Meetinghouse the first firebombing attack something that even the US did not know the damage it would cause. It continued until the Atomic Bombs were dropped (the first one actually left San Francisco before the test as Los Alamos). The reasoning for the use is pretty incredible since it was partly due to the Soviets, our allies, starting to invade Korea to meet us in Japan. 
 
Just think these 3 Battles should be discussed a whole lot more and remembered similar to D-Day because it was the start of the end of the War in the Pacific and in one islands case, directly led to a change in how the entire world operates regarding conflicts. 

So I have been debating whether to reply to this is not. 
You state that no way a 4a school should be scheduling a 1A school unless they have a star play. Ok so explain 2017. Silsbee won state in 4A. They beat Argyle in the semifinals by one point. Lipan a little ole 1A school played that same Argyle team and won by five. Not a single Lipan player played Division One basketball on that team. There was no star player. Next year Lipan beat multiple 4A and 5A teams again no star player. Brock is next door. They are a small 3A school. Almost every year they are beating 4A and 5A schools as well. 
Then look at Silsbee itself by your logic shouldn't be playing with and beating Yates because Silsbee has 800 students while Yates is in Houston ISD, which has a rule that you can start at any high school and not have to sit out a year. That means 20,000 students that Yates might have available. Not just Yates but all of those 6A schools they beat the previous years. They did not have stars like Kendrick Perkins or Stephen Jackson. Yes they might end up with 1 NBA player and 1 NFL player on their rosters those years, but no one was recruited to Kentucky or even a Big 12 school for basketball. They had great players. Talented players, but no one star. Only last year could you say that really. Just a really good team.
I have seen ranked 1A teams almost beat ranked 5A teams. Played them within 10 points. That 1A team had 5 good players in the same grade that all grew up together. They had 1 player who scored about 25 a game, but that night she had the flu. It was still a close game. There are certain 1A schools (even 2A with Big Sandy) that can play with 4A, 5A and some 6A. Size doesn't always matter. Year in and Year out they are good. 
Leggett is one of those schools. They do not play football. They run cross country and play basketball. They are proud. To sit here and say Livingston (with a lot of players still in football) should not be playing a school like Leggett is disrespectful and a little arrogant. They have been practicing all year with everyone. They are good every year. The past few years even if Livingston was at full strength in December, Leggett probably would have won. They are one of those schools that you respect the tradition. 
I end my rant with one last note to demonstrate Leggett and 1A tradition. Goodrich and Leggett close rivals. Goodrich for four years had Adrian McGowen. She graduated. Leggett then had Brittney Jefferson. Two of the best players in state history played on both sides of Livingston. They can play ball in those towns both boys and girls. So to say no way Livingston should be scheduling Leggett just because they are 1A does not hold up.

I think people really need to commend Beaumont ISD, HF, and Vidor for getting right on it and yes it is tragic that this is happening to places that were just hit two years ago.
To put things into perspectives about just how fast things are moving for y'all, my island was destroyed by Typhoon Yutu about 11 months ago, we lost school for over a month that we made up in June. Even to this day, we have 1,000 middle school students who are going to school in a makeshift location in military tents because their school is completely destroyed. 2 other elementary and 2 other middle schools are going half day because parts of the schools were destroyed or damaged. Work has not even started on trying to fix any schools. Another elementary and middle school are combined and going half day because 1 week before school started their elementary school's electrical wires burned out and it will be January before it can be fixed. Out of 14 public schools here on island, 7 schools are still affected after a year. Part of ours is different because the storm (and other things) ruined our economy (government can't fund the schools) and we can't even meet the 10% FEMA match to start rebuilding, but the point I'm trying to say it is very impressive how quickly all the school districts are working to fix things to help the students get back on track. 
 

I think people really need to commend Beaumont ISD, HF, and Vidor for getting right on it and yes it is tragic that this is happening to places that were just hit two years ago.
To put things into perspectives about just how fast things are moving for y'all, my island was destroyed by Typhoon Yutu about 11 months ago, we lost school for over a month that we made up in June. Even to this day, we have 1,000 middle school students who are going to school in a makeshift location in military tents because their school is completely destroyed. 2 other elementary and 2 other middle schools are going half day because parts of the schools were destroyed or damaged. Work has not even started on trying to fix any schools. Another elementary and middle school are combined and going half day because 1 week before school started their elementary school's electrical wires burned out and it will be January before it can be fixed. Out of 14 public schools here on island, 7 schools are still affected after a year. Part of ours is different because the storm (and other things) ruined our economy (government can't fund the schools) and we can't even meet the 10% FEMA match to start rebuilding, but the point I'm trying to say it is very impressive how quickly all the school districts are working to fix things to help the students get back on track. 
 

I think people really need to commend Beaumont ISD, HF, and Vidor for getting right on it and yes it is tragic that this is happening to places that were just hit two years ago.
To put things into perspectives about just how fast things are moving for y'all, my island was destroyed by Typhoon Yutu about 11 months ago, we lost school for over a month that we made up in June. Even to this day, we have 1,000 middle school students who are going to school in a makeshift location in military tents because their school is completely destroyed. 2 other elementary and 2 other middle schools are going half day because parts of the schools were destroyed or damaged. Work has not even started on trying to fix any schools. Another elementary and middle school are combined and going half day because 1 week before school started their elementary school's electrical wires burned out and it will be January before it can be fixed. Out of 14 public schools here on island, 7 schools are still affected after a year. Part of ours is different because the storm (and other things) ruined our economy (government can't fund the schools) and we can't even meet the 10% FEMA match to start rebuilding, but the point I'm trying to say it is very impressive how quickly all the school districts are working to fix things to help the students get back on track. 
 

I think people really need to commend Beaumont ISD, HF, and Vidor for getting right on it and yes it is tragic that this is happening to places that were just hit two years ago.
To put things into perspectives about just how fast things are moving for y'all, my island was destroyed by Typhoon Yutu about 11 months ago, we lost school for over a month that we made up in June. Even to this day, we have 1,000 middle school students who are going to school in a makeshift location in military tents because their school is completely destroyed. 2 other elementary and 2 other middle schools are going half day because parts of the schools were destroyed or damaged. Work has not even started on trying to fix any schools. Another elementary and middle school are combined and going half day because 1 week before school started their elementary school's electrical wires burned out and it will be January before it can be fixed. Out of 14 public schools here on island, 7 schools are still affected after a year. Part of ours is different because the storm (and other things) ruined our economy (government can't fund the schools) and we can't even meet the 10% FEMA match to start rebuilding, but the point I'm trying to say it is very impressive how quickly all the school districts are working to fix things to help the students get back on track. 
 

I think people really need to commend Beaumont ISD, HF, and Vidor for getting right on it and yes it is tragic that this is happening to places that were just hit two years ago.
To put things into perspectives about just how fast things are moving for y'all, my island was destroyed by Typhoon Yutu about 11 months ago, we lost school for over a month that we made up in June. Even to this day, we have 1,000 middle school students who are going to school in a makeshift location in military tents because their school is completely destroyed. 2 other elementary and 2 other middle schools are going half day because parts of the schools were destroyed or damaged. Work has not even started on trying to fix any schools. Another elementary and middle school are combined and going half day because 1 week before school started their elementary school's electrical wires burned out and it will be January before it can be fixed. Out of 14 public schools here on island, 7 schools are still affected after a year. Part of ours is different because the storm (and other things) ruined our economy (government can't fund the schools) and we can't even meet the 10% FEMA match to start rebuilding, but the point I'm trying to say it is very impressive how quickly all the school districts are working to fix things to help the students get back on track. 
 

1. State Championships are not in Dallas. They are in Arlington. It’s the same as saying something like look that Houston team almost beating Longview in West Brook. Or calling WOS a Houston school. Two completely different places. 
2. Houston had its chance to host the state championships a few years ago and the city didn’t show up. In Arlington people show up especially since its neutral for the 2A-4A games and 1A is close for half the schools. Money matters because yes UIL keeps a percentage but a lot goes to he schools playing to help fund athletics. Plus every athlete gets national tv coverage playing in an NFL stadium otherwise only 6A and possibly 5A would get to be on tv. I think a 1A player actually got a D1 scholarship based on the state championship game last year.
3. North Shore agreed to the officials. I can’t recall exactly but it was either they said yes to Dallas straight up or it was a coin flip between Dallas or Houston refs. Both schools said that those were the only two chapters who they thought could keep up with their pace. 
It isn’t some conspiracy to make sure DFW teams win at the higher levels. Houston had a chance to host and the city didn’t even realize the games were there. 
As for this year North Shore will win against Duncanville again. Duncanville maybe on a downturn now that Mathis is back next door but they got this year to win one.   

How does ppg and win percentage equate to better team? 

I'm not getting into this whole everyone hates Yates things, but it should be noted that if Madison was in HISD the player would have been eligible. Dallas ISD is not open enrollment like Houston ISD is with choosing your high school.

1A Lipan is the favorite, but if they have a off shooting night, who knows
2A Muenster and Shelbyville (common opponent Lipan which Muenster beat so I would put them first but they are very close)
3A East Chambers and Brock are the top two by far, but there's also Dallas Madison in Region 2 and Randolph and Cole in Region 4 (I know it's normally the weakest but the military schools if they make it bring the fans and would not sleep on them)
4A Silsbee is top dog, but this is the most competitive bracket. Region I you have Argyle and Decatur, plus possibly Brownwood and Estacado. Region 2 is murders row (Oak Cliff Family has the easiest route). Region 3 is Silsbee and then Yates/Hardin Jefferson.
5A Have no clue as this is the class normally with the most upsets
6A is very open, but matchups will determine the favorite. Region 1 you have about 6 teams who have a legitimate chance to win the region. Region 2 about 3-4 teams. Region 3 about 5 teams. Region 4 about 2-3 teams.

Dunbar will be the team out of Region 1 (Thank you FWISD). Lost to Kennedale by 20 the first time but won by 10 at Kennedale the second time.

NCAA Rules, but start at the 40 instead of 25?

Figured just a wish. Always said and heard from mutliple coaches if you gave her Ozen players she would have a couple of championships. This is now a chance to prove everyone right.

Isn't Fontenot a vice-principal at Central? What if she applies? She was always the best coach in Beaumont just never had the players like Brown did. Give her Ozen players and you got a powerhouse at any level.

And now they can and not that crowded field game.

And now they can and not that crowded field game.

Is 5A-D2 the most watered down or is one team just that much better?

If you are going D2 then the state championship has already been decided for that division in 2018 and 2019. And it's not Crosby.

The whole argument of whether crosby and jasper should be playing is moot. Both teams and towns should be happy they are playing to take their mind off everything that has happened. There are still probably 100-200 teams in and around the Gulf Coast who are not playing next week. Heck it has been over 2 years since a typhoon hit where I am at and to this day the one gym on the island for our 3 high schools still has not been fixed.
The point is who cares who is playing who and if they should be playing when all that matters is that you are able to play.