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1 hour ago, Hagar said:

I think it may be time to congratulate China Springs on a great season, and good luck in basketball.

Carthage beat a pretty durn good 5A-D2 Crosby team, and for those that didn’t watch any of it, they did it while trying to decide which QB to use.  Spending almost half the game with the wrong one.  They’re not just good, they’re real good.  Would most likely win 4A-D1 and may could win 5A-D2.  That’s just my opinion so don’t break your keyboard in rebuttal, I just think they’re that good, and with each Crosby win, it enforces my belief.

Can't agree with you here. Our offense is too inconsistent holding on to the ball. We're good but our offense is in rebuilding mode. 

30 minutes ago, Majestyk said:

I think Carthage was missing a few starters in that game for some reason which adds to the impressive.

The whole offensive line was out with covid. Had to use jv players. 

Jasper's offensive coordinator may be the best defensive coordinator in the state. 

23 minutes ago, Silsbee92 said:

For the record: Silsbee last Ten years Playoff 

2012 Carthage

2013 Carthage

2014 Henderson

2015 Carthage

2016 Carthage

2017 Carthage

2018 Cuero

2019 Wimberly

2020 Carthage

There are very few teams from this area who could say "If Carthage wasnt in our Region we might have one it all" like Silsbee could.  2018 & 2019 are prime examples.  Back to Back State Semi FInals, and jmo but the 2015 & 2016 teams had a very good chance to win as well. There are the occasional let down years but those are usually senior heavy teams that have left the year prior.  Id say Silsbee is very competitive in Region 3 across the three major sports.

I have said what i want...

Carthage's Championship Legacy has ended Silsbee playoff runs too early, anybody else and who knows.  Football.

in 2016, I just knew we were going home. I'm talking about before the game. That was Silsbee's best chance so far to beat us. 

On 11/13/2021 at 2:17 PM, Horton said:

I don’t think HF will score at all. 
The Dawg D is nothing like you have ever seen before. 
The last six teams were under 40 yards rushing and two of those were minus yards running the ball. 
If HF can cause 5 or 6 turnovers, they might have a chance. 

That's a big concern of mine.

3 hours ago, Majestyk said:

Good point.  Seems like WO-S has had a lot of short fields due to special teams, turnovers and such.  Going 75 yards against Jaspers defense is a different animal. And don't talk Carthage yet, we're talking different planet. Should be interesting this week tho.

I'm always looking forward. As long as our boys are not, I'm good lol. Been waiting on this showdown for years. I don't count the last game. WAY too windy. 

I'm very curious to see how many long drives WO-S can put together against the Jasper D. I really don't care about the short field as I'm sure they will score at least 2 tds. If WO-S can consistently drive down field on the Jasper D, the Carthage game (if it happens, just got even more interesting)

9 minutes ago, Dirty_but_Dazzling said:

it's hard to watch isn't it?

Very hard. They catch a deep pass but then don't try it again.

Is Jasper trying to lose?

14 minutes ago, Dirty_but_Dazzling said:

Stan Hodges was taking the reigns after Brian Barbay (last year was our OC) retired. He was implementing a new offense (not this disaster you are seeing now). Not long before season started he was hired as HC at Hull Daisetta.

Remember what i said in the Rusk thread about this loss looking bad b/c it was going to make Jasper fans upset with the coach? This is what I meant. If Jasper had an offense, we may be in trouble.

22 hours ago, RonStopable said:

I just had the opportunity to watch the Carthage/Center game. Carthage may have improved some on offense but It’s hard to judge with Center’s defense. 
This game may be more interesting than I originally thought.  
I know I will regret saying this but Jasper could pull the upset. 

The ONLY way I see that happening is if Carthage turns the ball over on a very short field. If that happens multiple times, things will get interesting.

Just now, Hagar said:

My best guess, Dawgs get so many big leads guys that on most teams would be playing JV get pulled up to varsity for big playing time.  Whatever the reason, it’s working.  👍

Yeah, I never pay to much attention to sub varsity for that reason. The best JV players are usually playing on Friday nights.

2 hours ago, Hagar said:

Wonder how many losses the Carthage JV has sustained in the last two seasons?  Bet it’s not many.  If Jasper O, in desperation, doesn’t commit a bunch of turnovers, I think this will be a closer game than most suspect.

I agree 100%. My main concern is our offense turning the ball over on a very short field.

3 hours ago, Dawgs12345 said:

I agree 100%. Carthage is ripe for an upset this season. Reminds me of the 2018 Dawgs but our problem is on the opposite side of the ball. In 2018 it was our D that was a liability. In 2021 it is the offense. I think against subpar competition the offense is really good, but I’ll have to see them execute at a high level against a good defense before I’m not worried. They looked unstoppable against Center and I do believe games like that will help them build confidence, but I would love to see them look good this week against Jasper’s D.

Hopefully we can put our worries away after this week b/c this is strongest defense we'll face the rest of the season. 

2 hours ago, Dirty_but_Dazzling said:

uh? no clue what you mean. hell, I predict a Carthage win.

being completely honest the worse loss we have had was the Vidor game. holding them to 0 pts the whole game until the last minute.  what reasons do you speak of.

This will be a measuring stick for the Carthage offense. I predict 14-0 or 7-0 and that's going to sting if it happens. If you guys had an offense to go with that defense, an upset wouldnt surprise me. I'd rather lose 30-0.

If Carthage scores 30+, I will know our offense is for real. If not, we're still the favorite for state but may get upset if we run into a good defense and an offense who can score a couple of tds

On 10/9/2021 at 10:11 PM, Dirty_but_Dazzling said:

I did not really care for the all black uniforms the DAWGS played in last night.

after thinking about it since though if they(uniforms) helped in any kind of way last night I hope Coach has got extra black ones stored away. 

our next opponent is not exactly what you call a cupcake(Carthage).

*I am not implying that any team the DAWGS have or will play are cupcakes.  

I predict a Carthage win and this lost may look worse to Jasper fans than any other loss and its not for the reason you think. 

33 minutes ago, Horton said:

Gilmer was never in the game. 
They had 17 yards and one first down in the first half. Gilmer defense played a great game but the Dawg QB gifted The Gilmer defense the ball without being touched and stopped the Dawgs from going down the field to score on three different occasions. Falling down for a 20 yard sack, dropping the ball and kicking it 20 yards towards Gilmer side of the field. He had a rough time. 
But he also made some great runs and touch down passes. The score should of been 35 to 0. 
The Gilmer QB was running for his life and made an unbelievable pass to wide receiver that made another unbelievable diving catch. That happen happened because the Dawgs fumbled the punt. 
The Gilmer QB was hit all night when he tried to pass or run. The running backs were hit most of the time behind the line of scrimmage. 
At the end of the game Dawgs had 293 yards to Gilmer 161. Without all those mishaps dropping the ball or bad snaps the Dawgs have more points and many more yards. 
Gilmer will still play Celina for the right to go to Jerry’s House in December. 
They are are a very good football team. I can guarantee coach Surratt will fix the mishaps Handling the football this week in practice. 
 

What do you mean they were never in the game. The score was almost 21-14 in the 4th. I'm glad the defense stepped up. So basically you're saying that carthage just didn't make any mistakes that would have won bigger. Well that's obvious but reality is, our offense makes a lot of mistakes. 

1 hour ago, Hagar said:

But that Dawg Defense is little short of awesome.  Can’t see anyone putting many points on them.  If Carthage can manage to get 21 points (between O & D) I think they win against any 4A team.

I'm not worried a out our defense giving up points. I'm worried about our offense doing it. Either by turnovers or an extremely short field. 

I know we're just 3 games in and it will more than likely get better but I can only judge what I see now. 

5 hours ago, marshman said:

Any rational WO-S fan knows we can’t compete with Carthage.  That’s not to say we’re afraid of them but they clearly are the better team with better athletes. This is coming from a long time WO-S diehard supporter and graduate.

Our (Carthage) defense is the truth, but our offense hands the ball over a ton and our defense can't bail us out everytime. If that pick 6 doesn't happen and Gilmer scored it would have been 21-14 and would have prob came down to the end. Until we get a running game, making it to state isn't a guarantee. 

6 hours ago, Bansheefan said:

I throw my own shade carthage lack of running game this year has me really concerned maybe it's just who we played will know more next week

I give them a pass against Crosby due to covid and another due to that big dlinw from Cornerstone. If we don't do well with the ground game against Gilmer, then I'll panic. 

As for Silsbee fans, i personally assumed yall state is always the expectation unless your team prove otherwise. That's no click bait, but just an assumption. Wonder if yall would have won it all the year they had the Dawgs against the ropes. 

46 minutes ago, Dirty_but_Dazzling said:

Regional Finals for an over rated team ain't to bad really.

BTW, I guess I didn't realize any and/or all season we/yall played in DIV. I

don't believe me?  just go to page 300 of your 2021 DCTF magazine and read the playoff results. 

Covid played a HUGE part in that

On 9/7/2021 at 7:33 PM, Dirty_but_Dazzling said:

people must have forgot China Spring just very much play part of who does what for Reg. III

Don't know what they returned but they were overrated during the playoffs last year. 

Very impressive. Guess we'll find out more this week. 

21 hours ago, Majestyk said:

Already watched em. Like I said Carthage has never fielded a team that could beat 2016 WO-S, stay off the brake fluid. I will agree though, a coach should never loose a state championship, that would be none since.

Do you believe 2016 was the greatest team in 4a of that decade? 

31 minutes ago, Gasilla said:

What makes you think we don't? We'd love to play Carthage. Win or lose.

I just responded to a poster who said they shouldn't play bc they would lose. That's all