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Our local 6A: District 22-6A Baytown Sterling 2338 Beaumont West Brook 2467 Pt Arthur Memorial 2460 Channelview 2285 LaPorte 2278 Galena Park North Shore 4416

Good stuff, Matt. This is what our local 4A districts could look like: District 19-4A Jasper 770 Silsbee 853 Livingston 1148 Huffman 924 Cleveland 886 Splendora 910 District 20-4A Bmt. Ozen 1227 Barbers Hill 1181 LCM 1125 Lumberton 1063.5 PNG 1401 Vidor 1416

[quote name="Tigers9" post="821488" timestamp="1280342083"] [quote author=AggiesAreWe link=topic=71234.msg821474#msg821474 date=1280339703] I know that one of those "softball" girls that is playing volleyball at Silsbee is playing select softball at a high level. She was accomendated for her missing some time and she was allowed to get her practice pitching in during volleyball season, I know this as fact. There is no "all or nothing" rule pertaining to Silsbee volleyball. Players and coaches are and have been working things out. It is not what you are trying to make it out to be or how you are spinning it for folks here on the site. Years ago when Silsbee had another volleyball coach, that may have been the case, but it is not that way now. You might want to do some checking. [/quote] Apparently you arent up to the "facts" Mike........AND, I dont need a spin! I dealt with the current coach and assistant coach badgering my kid about playing VB just last year. I did all I could to convince her to play.......she was not willing to take the consequnces for missing, so she decided to just not play. Now if you are saying they have "changed" their policy since then.........GREAT! Still doesnt mean Ive exaggerated or added a spin! But then again when you coach the first team to NOT make the playoffs in 20 years.......maybe you should "change" something! "at a high level" well, we will just have to agree to disagree on the definition of that! I did notice you didnt even touch the other examples I stated.........cant wait to see if certain football players who were arrested for breaking into a school building OR for being arrested for drugs.....show up and participate in 2 a days! [/quote] There was no need to speak about those "other" examples. The point I was making was in regards to the volleyball/softball issue. I spoke to the volleyball coaches and they told me how it is. BTW, your other examples said nothing about football players breaking into schools and getting arrested for drugs. ;) (I know you have a personal vendetta with the football team and it's coaches, I'm cool with that) Carry on.

I know that one of those "softball" girls that is playing volleyball at Silsbee is playing select softball at a high level. She was accomendated for her missing some time and she was allowed to get her practice pitching in during volleyball season, I know this as fact. There is no "all or nothing" rule pertaining to Silsbee volleyball. Players and coaches are and have been working things out. It is not what you are trying to make it out to be or how you are spinning it for folks here on the site. Years ago when Silsbee had another volleyball coach, that may have been the case, but it is not that way now. You might want to do some checking.

[quote name="Buddy09" post="821437" timestamp="1280332126"] This has been a good thread to read but am I correct in saying we are talking about "Southern Nationals",  "Southern Nationals"  come on  "Southern Nationals". Is this not the tournament for all the teams that did not qualify for the REAL Nationals. Anyone who plays ASA can attend this one. Will not be any coaches watching this one. May be time to start Volleyball practice. [/quote] WOW!!!! Now this sheds new light on the subject. ;) So anyone can play this tourney, hmmmmm..... So this team did not qualify, hmmmmmm.... No college scouts will be attending, hmmmmmmm..... This isn't the "year long trying to qualify" tourney, like it was mentioned before, hmmmmmmmm...... Interesting ;) ;D ::)

[quote name="Tigers9" post="821387" timestamp="1280322722"] [quote author=Chill. link=topic=71234.msg821342#msg821342 date=1280291136] Bleed, what the heck are you wasting your time with that for....some people just don't get it....I bet this has kept you off of FB... ;) Lets all NOT forget, that this is happening in all sports, not just football and not just volleyball....YG from what I have heard you going to have the same problem if your kids play basketball.....I heard through the grapevine that basketball coaches don't allow their players to play on select teams during their season either, even if it doesn't interfer with games, or tournaments or practices....And if your players want to run track during softball, theres a problem there too....So, with that being said, looks like you might have a bigger fight than you thought.... [/quote] Oh we get it.....we get that our kids #1 priority is SOFTBALL and they are willing to sacrifice many other things to achieve that goal, and when the HS coaches "get it" as you put it......maybe they will start getting more of the better athletes to play multiple sports and help their programs be more successful! Again, it doesnt have to be like that. My DD doesnt play VB because of stupid "all or none" rules. However, she does do track AT THE SAME TIME AS SOFTBALL....why? because the softball coach and track coach work together. It was made clear that softball is her priorty, the track coaches work around that. She went to regionals as a freshman in the high jump and triple jump......she also placed in the district meet in long jump. You are correct Bleed, H-J BB does require CC, thats another reason they lost BB players that are focused on SB.....the all or none method of thinking will only cause the HS sports teams to lose players.....and who does that benefit....neither! [/quote] Just what do you mean by this "all or none" rules? There are softball players that are playing volleyball at Silsbee.

[quote name="Gasilla" post="821327" timestamp="1280288259"] Been gone nearly a year and it's amazing how things stay the same... [b]Aggies is still following coop around sniping every post he makes[/b] and BH fans still chime in on posts that don't concern them... Until next time... Peace out!!! [/quote] But Gas, you know that's my job. ;D

[quote name="East TX" post="821302" timestamp="1280283638"] [b]I see that several of our very non-threatening logical threads were delete?????[/b] Many ADs have it in for Softball all over the country now......yet those teams that make the SB final four in all classifications are loaded with top select players--what gives?  Also, I attended the State Volleyball Tourney this past year: I guarantee every winner and runner-up team was stacked to the hilt with Club Select Team players--what gives?  These kids need college scholarship to play SB and they get them from mostly playing Select Softball, in front of a host of college scouts--what gives? As for OF the inconsistancy by ADs has killed the HS softball almost into being non-existent. The AD previous to the present, said a SB player had to play another sport. Here is sadly what happened, the Ratcliff girl was told she had to get up and run Crossounty at 6am in the off season when SB was out of season.  Here is an exceptional scholar of a youth that just wanted to play SB and her grades were paramount of importance to get an academic scholarship.  Yes she was also an exceptional proven Short Stop.  She drops out of SB...sad. Now the next AD has a totally different agenda.   If you are trying to get a college scholarship in SB and feel you need to be seen by many SB college Scouts at National--"So what"; no consideration given...select at National levels trashed-- you miss a two-a-day for Volleyball you cannot play!   I was watching BC beat a OF team this year and was thinking... Egos..have caused the demise of OFs SB team.  They had a great positive SB Coach but a lot of players are not playing because of the attitudes and lack of continuity of a few.. adults. [/quote] Only one thread was deleted and it was by the member who created the thread. His perogrative. No mods or admins have deleted any threads in this forum today. Take your witch hunt elsewhere.

[quote name="MOMMA2" post="821207" timestamp="1280270404"] Go over to Louisianna and GAMBLE! [/quote] THAT TOO!!! Drinks are free!!! (sometimes the buffet is too) ;D

I will be there!!!

Silsbee proved that it knew how to defend it last year. ;) All the d-line has to do is sacrifice themselves and cut down the offensive lineman before they can carry out their blocking assignments. The linebackers and safeties (these DB's will be up in the box because there is not threat of a passing game) can then tee off on the open gaps. This happened last year when Silsbee played Orangefield. Orangefield came in averaging over 420 yards rushing a game, but Silsbee held them to just 150 yards rushing. Silsbee's linebackers had a field day with the Bobcat backs, ended up knocking out their QB in the 3rd quarter. I agree, it's a good offense for small schools that lack in the athleticly skilled department. But a good defensive co. can game plan it to stop it.

[quote name="WeedBegone" post="821072" timestamp="1280256501"] Any smart HS coach understands that atheletes that participate in summer sports has tremendous benefits for his HS program.  I often see HS coaches at the area tournaments and they support their players in addition to gaining an abundance of information just by observing.   What you dont see very often is HS coaches coaching from the stands and getting involved directly with the players which while being a common courtesy, it also is frowned upon by UIL.  On the other hand, it should also be the same common courtesy for Select coaches to refrain from coaching outside the dug out at a HS game.   Also, the same should apply in situations when it is not the same sport.  As long as atheletes are staying in shape, multi seasons and or multi sports should be acceptable. [/quote] I like this post. Good one Weed.

[quote name="Mc" post="821193" timestamp="1280269215"] Go eat some catfish at the Pine Tree Lodge. [/quote] YES!!! Throw back some cold ones too! ;D

Some of them can come to my house in Silsbee and do some yard work.

What happened to just having fun in youth sports? ::)

I see that the original thread has been deleted by the author of the thread.

[quote name="WeedBegone" post="821168" timestamp="1280267233"] [quote author=Mc link=topic=71234.msg821158#msg821158 date=1280266814] [quote author=AggiesAreWe link=topic=71234.msg821152#msg821152 date=1280266425] Why was the other thread deleted? [/quote]He felt it had that "not so fresh feeling." [/quote] Sometimes we tend to self moderate which was done in this case.  Its kind of like Otis on Mayberry----when he had his filll---he locked himself up and slept it off.  In this case our friend from young guns just chose to go to another bar.  But then again---so did we all. [/quote] LOL!! I got it. Thanks Weed.

[quote name="Mc" post="821158" timestamp="1280266814"] [quote author=AggiesAreWe link=topic=71234.msg821152#msg821152 date=1280266425] Why was the other thread deleted? [/quote]He felt it had that "not so fresh feeling." [/quote] Who is "he"?

Why was the other thread deleted?

[quote name="WOSgrad" post="821016" timestamp="1280249133"] There are only eight of them:  Plano East (6171), Plano (5270), Allen (5029), Dallas Skyline (4765), North Shore (4416), Plano West (4190), Alief Hastings (4156) and Alief Elsik (4084). Allen, Plano, Plano East and Plano West are all in District 8-5A (currently), Hastings and Elsik are in 18-5A. [/quote] I was close. I knew that the Plano schools were 2 of them and the Alief schools were the other two.

[quote name="Matthew328" post="821008" timestamp="1280248183"] 4000-2200 is less than the minimum desired ratio of 2:1....there's very few schools w/enrollments of over 4000 (less than 10 I think) so it does reduce the enrollment disparity somewhat.... [/quote] I agree. If I remember correctly, 4 of those 10 teams are in 2 districts.

[quote name="Matthew328" post="820978" timestamp="1280245461"] Yeah I had to adjust by 2 schools and that put Dayton in 5A..#'s may move by 2-3 schools as I work through each class [/quote] Appreciate the work. Keep it coming, very interesting to say the least. Curious to see how you district our local 3A's.

[quote name="Matthew328" post="820970" timestamp="1280244522"] [Hidden Content] Here's 5A [/quote] Now you have 5A starting at 1422 and not 1435. That would include Dayton in 5A now. PNG and Vidor would still remain 4A.

[quote name="Chill." post="820860" timestamp="1280204102"] Show up for 2 a days like the AD says or don't play, pretty simple...My kid plays softball too, but she'll be there come August 2nd and why is that, her coach worked everything out around their schedule so they could do both....Small minded thinking/policy, really....I personally think when you start a high school sport you give it your all, missing because you have a select game or tournament is not a good excuse....I would like to see the girls stay and play volleyball, but from what i have already read on the other thread they have known since May... I know Aggie finds this hard to believe, but i think it's going to be an exciting year of 3A volleyball and I'd hate for my kid to miss it...Good luck in their decision... [/quote] I agree with this post. But I am still not sure that a student missing a couple of 2 a day practices due to them playing another sport warrents a banishment from them playing the entire season. Seems something could be worked out. Orangefield and schools like them need all the participation it can get. I do agree that a line has to be drawn somewhere.

[quote name="bleed orange" post="820916" timestamp="1280239252"] [quote author=Otter link=topic=71217.msg820803#msg820803 date=1280194682] I saw one quote on the Softball forum that said "High School Sports come first. "  It is this small minded thinking that led to the explosion of select sports.  On every high school athletic team, you will find widely varying levels of commitment by the players to improve their abilities.  This limits the ability of those most committed to improve and achieve.  In select sports, most members on the team are aligned with each other in what they want to achieve personally and as a team.  High School Athletic Staffs should be thankful for the level of athlete that results from select sports and should do what they can to support them.  I believe that missing high school games for select sports is wrong.  But to quote Alan Iverson, "We talkin bout practice".  It is ashamed that High School Staffs think they are the center of the universe, when in fact, it is select sports that advance most high school athlete's collegiate aspirations.  Should the girls have to make up the practices/run laps? Of course.  Should they be banned from the team?  Absolutely not.  Should a family have to move to another school district because of this small minded policy?  No way.  I hope that some sanity comes to the decision makers in Orangefield. [/quote] What led the explosion of select teams was not high school athletics, it was the youth leagues. Some one said on the other thread that high school kids should not play high school ball and play just select.In other words to prove a point to the high school coaches. Talk about small minded thinking. That kind of thinking could destroy high school sports and if that happens, what happens to the kids that are not chosen to play select ball. Again I think select ball is a good thing but not at the expense of another sport. [/quote] Good post bleed. Some of these kids can't afford the costs of playing select or AAU. High school sports is all they have.