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Wow, I cant believe yall are still talking about this.  Ned doesn't have the facilities to lure in a Big Splash guy like youre talking about.  And if they did get that "big name" from across the state it would only be a stepping stone to go somewhere else.  Ned did the right thing.  They hired a man that has proven to be devoted to the program and the community, and will be a great head coach. 

Wow, I cant believe yall are still talking about this.  Ned doesn't have the facilities to lure in a Big Splash guy like youre talking about.  And if they did get that "big name" from across the state it would only be a stepping stone to go somewhere else.  Ned did the right thing.  They hired a man that has proven to be devoted to the program and the community, and will be a great head coach. 

Wow, I cant believe yall are still talking about this.  Ned doesn't have the facilities to lure in a Big Splash guy like youre talking about.  And if they did get that "big name" from across the state it would only be a stepping stone to go somewhere else.  Ned did the right thing.  They hired a man that has proven to be devoted to the program and the community, and will be a great head coach. 

Wow, I cant believe yall are still talking about this.  Ned doesn't have the facilities to lure in a Big Splash guy like youre talking about.  And if they did get that "big name" from across the state it would only be a stepping stone to go somewhere else.  Ned did the right thing.  They hired a man that has proven to be devoted to the program and the community, and will be a great head coach. 

Wow, I cant believe yall are still talking about this.  Ned doesn't have the facilities to lure in a Big Splash guy like youre talking about.  And if they did get that "big name" from across the state it would only be a stepping stone to go somewhere else.  Ned did the right thing.  They hired a man that has proven to be devoted to the program and the community, and will be a great head coach. 

Wow, I cant believe yall are still talking about this.  Ned doesn't have the facilities to lure in a Big Splash guy like youre talking about.  And if they did get that "big name" from across the state it would only be a stepping stone to go somewhere else.  Ned did the right thing.  They hired a man that has proven to be devoted to the program and the community, and will be a great head coach. 

Wow, I cant believe yall are still talking about this.  Ned doesn't have the facilities to lure in a Big Splash guy like youre talking about.  And if they did get that "big name" from across the state it would only be a stepping stone to go somewhere else.  Ned did the right thing.  They hired a man that has proven to be devoted to the program and the community, and will be a great head coach. 

Wow, I cant believe yall are still talking about this.  Ned doesn't have the facilities to lure in a Big Splash guy like youre talking about.  And if they did get that "big name" from across the state it would only be a stepping stone to go somewhere else.  Ned did the right thing.  They hired a man that has proven to be devoted to the program and the community, and will be a great head coach. 

Unfortunately, coaches today are handcuffed by the "don't work my baby too hard" attitudes of the parents and cant really break these kids down and build that tough, aggressive, yet disciplined attitude that you see at "The WOS."  I know there have been some cases like at HF where the coaches decisions on punishment resulted in some kids being hospitalized but that is a rare occurrence.  I believe in corporal punishment and the use of the paddle....trust me IT WORKS!!! I have experienced it first hand.  Kids shouldn't relate punishment to having to do physical work.  Success and rewards should derive from physical work.  Physical pain should be the result of punishment. 
I cant say for sure but my guess is that "Ole' Woddy" still makes his presence known at WOS.  I know this may be a little off the beaten path but there is a direct correlation between the discipline of the athletes, the support of the community to trust in the coaches in the disciplining their kids, and the results of that showing on the field.  Fear is not a bad thing, it keeps you on your toes and keeps you sharp.  WOS uses that to their advantage by striking fear into their opponent. 
Those boys are tough, physical, disciplined and flat out nasty.  That doesn't happen because the coaches are walking on egg shells trying to avoid a lawsuit because lil Johnny came home crying because he got tackled too hard or he had to run until he puked.
That being said...you must have the horses, you must have leadership in the group, you must have coaches that players respect, you must have parents that trust in the system, and discipline must be instilled at a young age.   Right or wrong, its only my opinion.  If you want to figure out what it is holding your team back, take a look around.

Unfortunately, coaches today are handcuffed by the "don't work my baby too hard" attitudes of the parents and cant really break these kids down and build that tough, aggressive, yet disciplined attitude that you see at "The WOS."  I know there have been some cases like at HF where the coaches decisions on punishment resulted in some kids being hospitalized but that is a rare occurrence.  I believe in corporal punishment and the use of the paddle....trust me IT WORKS!!! I have experienced it first hand.  Kids shouldn't relate punishment to having to do physical work.  Success and rewards should derive from physical work.  Physical pain should be the result of punishment. 
I cant say for sure but my guess is that "Ole' Woddy" still makes his presence known at WOS.  I know this may be a little off the beaten path but there is a direct correlation between the discipline of the athletes, the support of the community to trust in the coaches in the disciplining their kids, and the results of that showing on the field.  Fear is not a bad thing, it keeps you on your toes and keeps you sharp.  WOS uses that to their advantage by striking fear into their opponent. 
Those boys are tough, physical, disciplined and flat out nasty.  That doesn't happen because the coaches are walking on egg shells trying to avoid a lawsuit because lil Johnny came home crying because he got tackled too hard or he had to run until he puked.
That being said...you must have the horses, you must have leadership in the group, you must have coaches that players respect, you must have parents that trust in the system, and discipline must be instilled at a young age.   Right or wrong, its only my opinion.  If you want to figure out what it is holding your team back, take a look around.

Unfortunately, coaches today are handcuffed by the "don't work my baby too hard" attitudes of the parents and cant really break these kids down and build that tough, aggressive, yet disciplined attitude that you see at "The WOS."  I know there have been some cases like at HF where the coaches decisions on punishment resulted in some kids being hospitalized but that is a rare occurrence.  I believe in corporal punishment and the use of the paddle....trust me IT WORKS!!! I have experienced it first hand.  Kids shouldn't relate punishment to having to do physical work.  Success and rewards should derive from physical work.  Physical pain should be the result of punishment. 
I cant say for sure but my guess is that "Ole' Woddy" still makes his presence known at WOS.  I know this may be a little off the beaten path but there is a direct correlation between the discipline of the athletes, the support of the community to trust in the coaches in the disciplining their kids, and the results of that showing on the field.  Fear is not a bad thing, it keeps you on your toes and keeps you sharp.  WOS uses that to their advantage by striking fear into their opponent. 
Those boys are tough, physical, disciplined and flat out nasty.  That doesn't happen because the coaches are walking on egg shells trying to avoid a lawsuit because lil Johnny came home crying because he got tackled too hard or he had to run until he puked.
That being said...you must have the horses, you must have leadership in the group, you must have coaches that players respect, you must have parents that trust in the system, and discipline must be instilled at a young age.   Right or wrong, its only my opinion.  If you want to figure out what it is holding your team back, take a look around.

My understanding is that Coach Thompson is still in possession of a little friend called "POT."  However, today's rules and regulations probably limit how much he can use it.

Unfortunately, coaches today are handcuffed by the "don't work my baby too hard" attitudes of the parents and cant really break these kids down and build that tough, aggressive, yet disciplined attitude that you see at "The WOS."  I know there have been some cases like at HF where the coaches decisions on punishment resulted in some kids being hospitalized but that is a rare occurrence.  I believe in corporal punishment and the use of the paddle....trust me IT WORKS!!! I have experienced it first hand.  Kids shouldn't relate punishment to having to do physical work.  Success and rewards should derive from physical work.  Physical pain should be the result of punishment. 
I cant say for sure but my guess is that "Ole' Woddy" still makes his presence known at WOS.  I know this may be a little off the beaten path but there is a direct correlation between the discipline of the athletes, the support of the community to trust in the coaches in the disciplining their kids, and the results of that showing on the field.  Fear is not a bad thing, it keeps you on your toes and keeps you sharp.  WOS uses that to their advantage by striking fear into their opponent. 
Those boys are tough, physical, disciplined and flat out nasty.  That doesn't happen because the coaches are walking on egg shells trying to avoid a lawsuit because lil Johnny came home crying because he got tackled too hard or he had to run until he puked.
That being said...you must have the horses, you must have leadership in the group, you must have coaches that players respect, you must have parents that trust in the system, and discipline must be instilled at a young age.   Right or wrong, its only my opinion.  If you want to figure out what it is holding your team back, take a look around.

IMO...
1. Winning culture of high expectations and athlete commitment created by good, consistent coaching.
2. They can put 11 athletes on the field that can compete at almost any level in the state.
3. They've got a top notch field general right now, that really operates the offense. In my VERY limited opinion, in the past (8 years before the JD era), WOS seemed to do a lot of run, run, throw the deep ball and let their athleticism take over. In the little that I've seen the past 3 years, they've really been able to develop a diverse offensive scheme due to the continuity and skill at QB.
 
Disclaimer: I'm just a very casual fan, that never played the game. And.... I'm super proud that WOS is representing SETX so well.
 

This post reminds me of a thread from a few years back that brought up that "winning recipe." What is it that makes the biggest difference?  Coaching or talent?   You could argue both sides and if you really dug into it you could find the answers based on the schools in this area.  For example, look at PAM and WOS, both have great talent but one wins state and the other loses to an inferior opponent, Why? 
Look at BC, Vidor, PNG, NED and even OF; those schools have average talent with a few high caliber athletes mixed in but not near the talent of PAM and WOS.  IMO they have above average coaching which allows them to compete and win those games when they are outmatched talent wise. Ex. Vidor v PAM
The next thing is to determine what scale you use to measure success and talent.  Are your expectations too high or unrealistic?  The bottom line is while it does take some above average coaching and some moments of great coaching, without great talent you can't win it all, period.   Some areas are more fortunate than others and are blessed with better athletes.  It comes and goes around here. 
I'm not going to speak as if I know much about Harrison's philosophy or coaching tactics, but from what you just read there's only one reason why they will be sitting at home next weekend, and from what I've seen it's not because a lack of talent.  
PNG ran into a Buzz Saw in College Station.  They had a combination of size, speed, and discipline.  Only one which can be taught.  Those boys should win it all.
I think you're jab at the overall coaching in this area is inaccurate. Perhaps you are correct in your assessment of PAM but to throw those "fake Indians" in there with it is asinine.  You obviously didn't watch the game.

The problem with coaching in 5a and 6a ball is that the larger cities(like the Houston area) have numerous 5a and 6a schools and the better players wind up going to a school that has a winning program. This leaves the smaller cities with only one or two schools at a disadvantage. This is why towns like WO-S and Newton can still compete.  Example, Katy has around 6 schools that are 6a, its amazing how this one school is heads above the other schools.   You could move Katy's coach to West Brook and Katy would still dominate. Are you could have one school like Allen with 6,380 kids. UIL has a problem. I don't think you will ever see a state championship in 5a or 6a in the triangle area again unless UIL changes things to a more equal playing field.
So, don't blame it all on the coaches.
 

This post reminds me of a thread from a few years back that brought up that "winning recipe." What is it that makes the biggest difference?  Coaching or talent?   You could argue both sides and if you really dug into it you could find the answers based on the schools in this area.  For example, look at PAM and WOS, both have great talent but one wins state and the other loses to an inferior opponent, Why? 
Look at BC, Vidor, PNG, NED and even OF; those schools have average talent with a few high caliber athletes mixed in but not near the talent of PAM and WOS.  IMO they have above average coaching which allows them to compete and win those games when they are outmatched talent wise. Ex. Vidor v PAM
The next thing is to determine what scale you use to measure success and talent.  Are your expectations too high or unrealistic?  The bottom line is while it does take some above average coaching and some moments of great coaching, without great talent you can't win it all, period.   Some areas are more fortunate than others and are blessed with better athletes.  It comes and goes around here. 
I'm not going to speak as if I know much about Harrison's philosophy or coaching tactics, but from what you just read there's only one reason why they will be sitting at home next weekend, and from what I've seen it's not because a lack of talent.  
PNG ran into a Buzz Saw in College Station.  They had a combination of size, speed, and discipline.  Only one which can be taught.  Those boys should win it all.
I think you're jab at the overall coaching in this area is inaccurate. Perhaps you are correct in your assessment of PAM but to throw those "fake Indians" in there with it is asinine.  You obviously didn't watch the game.

And this tete de tete about a sweep during the first round of the playoffs is kinda what kronos is talking about.  Say that Broncos94 is right and all of the All Pro athletes that are mired in the sub varsity ranks come out and shine like the stars that apparently everyone should believe they are and they sweep 22-5A in bi-district.  So what?  Only to be sent to the basketball courts the very next week as has been the recent experience?
While many have here disagreed with what he said and I too have my disagreements with some of his statements, most of the responses have borne out what he has claimed.
Now, where I have the major disagreement is the role of the coaches in this "failure" to reach beyond the second or third round.  The coach is but a very small component in that he sometimes has to battle his own school administration for control of the team or even worse, parents who might hold a little higher opinion of Little Johnny's skills than is warranted.  There is only so much that the coach can do, he can't force kids to workout on their own in off season and he can't help it when he doesn't have the support of his administration or even the community at large.  And finally, he can't help it when the team that he faces, much as we all hate to admit it, is simply better than our beloved team.  There are simply some situations where the other side has the horses that you don't and even Vince Lombardi being on the sideline instead of Ken Harrison, Brandon Faircloth, Larry Neumann, Jeff Mathews, or Toby Foreman. 
Pretty much every bit of the community needs to be in lock step and at the very least, let the coach coach his team.  That is what you have by and large with the teams in this area that do succeed.  Cornel Thompson is the boss at West Orange-Stark.....W.T. Johnston is the boss in Newton.  I know you believe it is because of the "boo-boo" opponents as I have long been witness to the notion in existing in parts of Jefferson County that quality football is played only at 5A and above.  And it is buying into notions like that which paint you as much of the problem as being the bearer of the solutions.  I don't subscribe to the notion that it takes a village to raise a child, but it sure does take one to win a state championship.

What are the odds we see #11 on the field this week with his hand in the dirt rushing the passer?   Little more pressure on the QB could make that secondary look good!

Thank you! My son was not the QB or the kid on the bench that I mentioned so he has no idea what he is talking about. I just happen to like football and have watched those kids play for years so I know a little about them. Funny thing is, I'm sure if I was a man that comment would have been ok. I guess women aren't supposed to know what they are talking about when it comes to football. 

Then you couldn't watch football.

Good win!  Long overdue, but the special teams and kicking game is brutal.  They were lucky that the defense bailed them out when the score was 27-21 after that fake FG.   They obviously have zero confidence in their FG team.  If you're going to go for it, why not let 2 or 22 run the ball or just give it a chance and kick the daggum FG?   Why would you take the chance of that being a lateral and overthrown and scoop and score?   Let the offense do the work if you wanna go for it.  
I'm not really impressed with our team nor the play calling.   I'm proud of the defense for stepping up and making plays.  But this team will not go very far being a 1 man show.  They gotta get more creative and balanced on offense and more physical on defense.   I can't stand this system of playing one side of the ball.   Faircloth said after the game "our goal is to get to the playoffs." Well how about making a deep run in the playoffs and winning a state championship?  That will never happen unless you talk about it often, keep the playmakers On the field, Set the expectations higher and get into the players arse a little bit more.  This team has yet to completely dominate an opponent.
I apologize for this rant. I will stop now.
Congratulations to the Players and the Fans on this victory. 

Good win!  Long overdue, but the special teams and kicking game is brutal.  They were lucky that the defense bailed them out when the score was 27-21 after that fake FG.   They obviously have zero confidence in their FG team.  If you're going to go for it, why not let 2 or 22 run the ball or just give it a chance and kick the daggum FG?   Why would you take the chance of that being a lateral and overthrown and scoop and score?   Let the offense do the work if you wanna go for it.  
I'm not really impressed with our team nor the play calling.   I'm proud of the defense for stepping up and making plays.  But this team will not go very far being a 1 man show.  They gotta get more creative and balanced on offense and more physical on defense.   I can't stand this system of playing one side of the ball.   Faircloth said after the game "our goal is to get to the playoffs." Well how about making a deep run in the playoffs and winning a state championship?  That will never happen unless you talk about it often, keep the playmakers On the field, Set the expectations higher and get into the players arse a little bit more.  This team has yet to completely dominate an opponent.
I apologize for this rant. I will stop now.
Congratulations to the Players and the Fans on this victory. 

Good win!  Long overdue, but the special teams and kicking game is brutal.  They were lucky that the defense bailed them out when the score was 27-21 after that fake FG.   They obviously have zero confidence in their FG team.  If you're going to go for it, why not let 2 or 22 run the ball or just give it a chance and kick the daggum FG?   Why would you take the chance of that being a lateral and overthrown and scoop and score?   Let the offense do the work if you wanna go for it.  
I'm not really impressed with our team nor the play calling.   I'm proud of the defense for stepping up and making plays.  But this team will not go very far being a 1 man show.  They gotta get more creative and balanced on offense and more physical on defense.   I can't stand this system of playing one side of the ball.   Faircloth said after the game "our goal is to get to the playoffs." Well how about making a deep run in the playoffs and winning a state championship?  That will never happen unless you talk about it often, keep the playmakers On the field, Set the expectations higher and get into the players arse a little bit more.  This team has yet to completely dominate an opponent.
I apologize for this rant. I will stop now.
Congratulations to the Players and the Fans on this victory. 

Good win!  Long overdue, but the special teams and kicking game is brutal.  They were lucky that the defense bailed them out when the score was 27-21 after that fake FG.   They obviously have zero confidence in their FG team.  If you're going to go for it, why not let 2 or 22 run the ball or just give it a chance and kick the daggum FG?   Why would you take the chance of that being a lateral and overthrown and scoop and score?   Let the offense do the work if you wanna go for it.  
I'm not really impressed with our team nor the play calling.   I'm proud of the defense for stepping up and making plays.  But this team will not go very far being a 1 man show.  They gotta get more creative and balanced on offense and more physical on defense.   I can't stand this system of playing one side of the ball.   Faircloth said after the game "our goal is to get to the playoffs." Well how about making a deep run in the playoffs and winning a state championship?  That will never happen unless you talk about it often, keep the playmakers On the field, Set the expectations higher and get into the players arse a little bit more.  This team has yet to completely dominate an opponent.
I apologize for this rant. I will stop now.
Congratulations to the Players and the Fans on this victory.